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[TheOctagon]

If you are curious, here's a quick comparison.

At a glance CA is gone, grain is gone, DoF is gone, blueish tint is gone, some kind of bloom (batmobile lights) seems to be gone.
On the flipside all that post processing really helps with jaggies.

That's because you've turned off the DOFAndBloomEffect component of Unreal, and the child UberPostProcessEffect. You've lost scene colour, tonemapping, bloom, DoF, CA and motion blur.

 

[Mifec]

I played it on launch. Unity is better now for sure but even at launch I'd say it was a better port.

Though I didn't run into the notorious missing faces bug like some did.

Undoubtedly, even with the faults unity had it was still pretty playable at launch on PC.

 

[kinggroin]

That's having restarted the game after changing the settings?

Yes. In fact, my game started on my system with those off anyway. First thing I noted was the lack of animated rain textures and AO stuff (at the bar scene intro)

 

[Älg]

Undoubtedly, even with the faults unity had it was still pretty playable at launch on PC.

I agree, people totally exaggerated the issues that Unity had.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Could there be a difference between the Gameworks settings? There are 4 settings, 2 are nvidia exclusive and 2 are available to AMD users. I could imagine that the nvidia exclusive effects make the game switch to DX10?

 

[ktroopa]

ok so seems not be true for the parts i can test

fog and paper turned off only and MSI shows DX11 for me. if i turn them on the overlay wont show for me unfortunately ive no idea why. maybe someone else with it fully working can try?

 

[888]

I found Unity very playable with good frame rates at launch, I then tried the xbox one version and discovered the meaning of pain there.

I am going to say Batman is pretty bad, worst I have seen and I have a smoother experience. MK X is close with it's launch issues.

 

[orava]

PC buyers should get a PS4 copy as compensation

Even if it would magically run on PC, it would still be much worse than proper PC version.

 

[Parsnip]

Looks horrible with everything turned off in my opinion.

Absolutely.
I wish there were toggles for just CA and filmgrain.

That's because you've turned off the DOFAndBloomEffect component of Unreal, and the child UberPostProcessEffect. You've lost scene colour, tonemapping, bloom, DoF, CA and motion blur.

Yup yup. I was just demonstrating that it is indeed possible to get rid of CA, but at the cost bunch of other things.

 

[Corpekata]

ok so seems not be true for the parts i can test



fog and paper turned off only and MSI shows DX11 for me. if i turn them on the overlay wont show for me unfortunately ive no idea why. maybe someone else with it fully working can try?

You're not really refuting what they said. Their overlay also didn't work, they only got the info because they had a keyboard overlay.

Would need someone that's running all 4 effects and the overlay working to really know. Though I'd say smoke and paper forcing overlays off is a sign something weird is going on.

 

[Angel Abaddon]

Holy nope Batman. I know this is a known quantity now, but hadn't realised just HOW bad it was. Realised I was running on the Nvidia driver that was out before AK, running at an okay rate, could keep a locked 30 with some slight judder. Just tried the set that were supposedly compatible with the game to see if that helped anything. FPS plummets to 23 just panning the camera.

 

[keltickennedy]

I have a glitch where the default suit no longer shows damage progression. Though, it will in certain in-game cinematics. Really strange. Probably has something to do with switching between skins.

Be warned.

 

[xaxaWOW]

No ambient occlusion for a modern pc games ...

Remember 2007, Crysis, the first game who use ambient occlusion ...

 

[Wavebossa]

Downloading on steam now! Cant wait to jump in

I wonder if I can get playable fps with smoke effects on with a gtx680

4gb or 2gb?

its going to use all of your VRaM, regardless

 

[ktroopa]

You're not really refuting what they said. Their overlay also didn't work, they only got the info because they had a keyboard overlay.

Would need someone that's running all 4 effects and the overlay working to really know. Though I'd say smoke and paper forcing overlays off is a sign something weird is going on.

yes thats what i conclude also, maybe becoz i cant get the overlay to show might be DX related. someone needs to check this coz i cant

 

[viveks86]

And the misinformation and knee-jerk reactions continue.

Could there be a difference between the Gameworks settings? There are 4 settings, 2 are nvidia exclusive and 2 are available to AMD users. I could imagine that the nvidia exclusive effects make the game switch to DX10?

Could be. The game does require you to restart when those two are enabled. But I'd also imagine TotalBiscuit would have verified that.

 

[CryTharsis]

"Normal" textures are maxed out textures. Basic effects (AO) missing. Advanced settings (rain shaders) missing. Very poor performance....thanks for that beta! I guess the final build is going to be released 2016 as DLC, 25 bucks.
I`m curious to see performance when those effects are build in someday...remember GTA 4?

 

[Klyka]

Can you force AO through the nvidia control panel?

 

[Lovely Salsa]

4gb or 2gb?

its going to use all of your VRaM, regardless

2 GB

 

[dEvAnGeL]

wait, was a patch released? im not on my PC right now

 

[RukusProvider]

Have the devs commented on this disaster? Or is no news is good news?

 

[electroflame]

Someone may have already tried this, so my apologies if it's been mentioned already, but has anyone tried unparking all of their CPU cores with something like ParkControl?

I remember having some pretty bad microstuttering in the Metro games that was fixed by temporarily unparking all of my cores. I seriously doubt it'll help with the macrostuttering where the game completely freezes, but it may help with the smaller stutters.

 

[batman2million]

I'm about 15 hours in and it just seemed to be getting worse and I just can't bare it now. It's freaking awful!
I got this from a 3rd party so I can't refund it. I guess I'm just going to have to wait out for a patch. This sucks though, hope we get something this week.

 

[Wavebossa]

2 GB

That's basically what I have (770GTX 2GB, same card).

So you'll get 40~60fps with all gameworks off, 35~55 with smoke effect

25Fps or lower when in the batmobile.

And due to your 2gb limitation, you have moments of extreme fps drop (sub 15) when you constantly hit the vram limit

 

[viveks86]

Can you force AO through the nvidia control panel?

Makes no difference. AO is even there in the INI settings and it is turned on already. So something is either broken or hard coded.

 

[Chariot]

Have the devs commented on this disaster? Or is no news is good news?

All we got was a "We heard some people were upset, look at the specs and play at 1080p/capped 30fps". No words on a patch or any apology.

 

[Wavebossa]

Someone may have already tried this, so my apologies if it's been mentioned already, but has anyone tried unparking all of their CPU cores with something like ParkControl?

I remember having some pretty bad microstuttering in the Metro games that was fixed by temporarily unparking all of my cores. I seriously doubt it'll help with the macrostuttering where the game completely freezes, but it may help with the smaller stutters.

Will try when I get home. Not sure how much help it will be due to how the issues seem to be largely VRAM based but... won't know till we try.

Any improvement would be good at this point.

 

[d00d3n]

Makes no difference. AO is even there in the INI settings and it is turned on already. So something is either broken or hard coded.

AO can be forced with the Mortal Kombat X AO compatibility bit though (with a flickering, buggy and unsatisfying result).

 

[JimJamJones]

I have a glitch where the default suit no longer shows damage progression. Though, it will in certain in-game cinematics. Really strange. Probably has something to do with switching between skins.

Be warned.

I just realized by reading this that I might have the same issue. I'll double check for sure when I get back from work.

 

[UrbanRats]

For those that tried to play the last AssCreed game. Which is worse?

This is at least playable, or it was for me last night.

This is worse.

AC Unity was pretty playable at 30fps (aside from some freezing some people had) but at least it looked amazing, and better than any console version.

This one runs like shit, and looks like shit, on even much much much better HW than console's.

 

[cyberheater]

It could have been worse, John. A lot worse.

 

[Dictator93]

AO kan be forced with the Mortal Kombat X AO compatibility bit though (with a flickering, buggy and unsatisfying result).

how many compat bits have you gone through? I tried a couple and they all either did not work, or caused the game to run @ 1 fps a second or so.

 

[paolo11]

Also on AC Unity, my 980GTX SLI can run this game constant 60fps max settings 1080p FXAA.

Arkham Knight seems like it was meant to be 30fps thanks to the cap. I mean why would they do that. I expect to run this way better than Witcher 3.


Man, MGS V PC should not be bugged like this game.

 

[viveks86]

AO kan be forced with the Mortal Kombat X AO compatibility bit though (with a flickering, buggy and unsatisfying result).

Using NV Inspector? Hmm. Someone should try that and see what happens.

how many compat bits have you gone through? I tried a couple and they all either did not work, or caused the game to run @ 1 fps a second or so.

lol

 

[SunBroDave]

All we got was a "We heard some people were upset, look at the specs and play at 1080p/capped 30fps". No words on a patch or any apology.

According to Klepek's article over on Kotaku, it was more like "We heard some people were upset, look at the specs and play at 720p/capped 30fps".

 

[Baron_Calamity]

so is this dx10 (with gameworks) thing true then?

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/report-batman-arkham-knight-uses-directx-10-when-nvidia-gameworks-are-activated/

 

[GHG]

Also on AC Unity, my 980GTX SLI can run this game constant 60fps max settings 1080p FXAA.

Arkham Knight seems like it was meant to be 30fps thanks to the cap. I mean why would they do that. I expect to run this way better than Witcher 3.


Man, MGS V PC should not be bugged like this game.

No way. Look at ground zeros, these guys know what they're doing.

Still don't preorder it though just in case.

 

[megathor]

Curious, how many people with performance problems have the 30fps ini tweak. Does removing it help at all?

 

[Corpekata]

Curious, how many people with performance problems have the 30fps ini tweak. Does removing it help at all?

Leaving it capped has been more stable and the textures actually pop-in for me. Seems like if the GPU is using all its' power to push frames it forgets to stream in textures.

 

[NIN90]

Curious, how many people with performance problems have the 30fps ini tweak. Does removing it help at all?

No difference on my end. Getting massive stutters to 1-5 fps every few seconds regardless.

 

[d00d3n]

how many compat bits have you gone through? I tried a couple and they all either did not work, or caused the game to run @ 1 fps a second or so.

I just tried a few. Mirror's Edge did not work. I don't remember exactly what bits I tried (yesterday), but Mortal Kombat X was the only one that produced any kind of AO. I tried MKX because it is the same developer of that port as this one and UE3.

Edit: There was a performance hit with MKX bit, but nothing too bad. Unplayable mostly due to flickering of the AO and other assets.

 

[Red Hood]

Did you restart your PC? Maybe the solution really was to turn your PC off and on again

Nah I don't think so, I rebooted my PC multiple times yesterday (I had some driver issues).

For what it's worth, I played another three hours just now and (besides some heavy stuttering for 30 seconds) it was stable at 31fps and drops were within acceptable range (~ 27/28). Still issues with textures sometimes loading too late though.

Anyway, I'm feeling a little cocky now and I'm thinking about unlocking the FPS, see if it's possible to have a higher frame-rate and maintain stability at the same time.

 

[cyberheater]

Well I'm glad RockSteady didn't gimp the PS4 port due to PC.

 

[atr0cious]

So, I've got an 870m laptop that can run AC unity fine, but has to be in Windowed mode for arkham knight, because in full screen it just blinks in and out of existence with the sound cutting in and out. What the fuck?

 

[Wounded]

What's this from? The Lego Movie or one of the games?

 

[robotrock]

Played through the game on my SSD with a bit of stuttering. Just tried playing it on my HDD and it's unplayable. This is with the 30fps cap.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Who did the original Arkham Asylum PC port? I remember that one being solid.

Arkham City had a ton of problems at launch, too, especially for AMD cards, though.

 

[Tizoc]

What's this from? The Lego Movie or one of the games?

The Lego movie. You really haven't watched that yet? It's awesome!

 

[Windom Earle]

What's next, core parking tips?

Someone may have already tried this, so my apologies if it's been mentioned already, but has anyone tried unparking all of their CPU cores with something like ParkControl?

I remember having some pretty bad microstuttering in the Metro games that was fixed by temporarily unparking all of my cores. I seriously doubt it'll help with the macrostuttering where the game completely freezes, but it may help with the smaller stutters.

Ha! I fucking knew it would come. Like clockwork.

 

[JohngPR]

I emailed GMG requesting a refund and after a little back and forth they finally sent me this message:

We know that you have experienced problems with Batman: Arkham Knight, which we know is frustrating. Rest assured that we are speaking with Warner Bros, who are working to resolve the problems. We ask you to be patient and wait for the update, which we hope will be released shortly. The link below is the official response from WB Interactive.

http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Support-for-PC/PC-Performance-issues-we-hear-you/m-p/571341

We have also detailed a bunch of tweaks, which you can do to your machine, which may get you up and running sooner.

http://blog.playfire.com/2015/06/batman-arkham-knight-pc-guidelines.html

We want you to enjoy, your game, but if after the fix has been released, you still cannot play your game, we will process your request for a refund.

Regards,
Chiara

Green Man Gaming & Playfire
Customer Service

While I'm glad that they didn't just flatly say no, I'm wondering how long is acceptable to wait for this "fix" they are assuming WB will respond with...1 week? 2 weeks?