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Batman AK PC Perf Thread of DARKNESS, NO SETTINGS [30fps cap / intro removal in OP]

komorebi

Member
Alright, with the US unlock an hour away, can anyone offer advice on locking it to 30fps? Obviously not touching the 30fps cap is one way, but is that the smoothest so far?

Sad as hell that it has to come to this but I'm sure patches are on the way. Until then I'm willing to lock it to 30.
 
stock i5 3570k
16GB ram
Nvidia GTX 770
SSD

I put max FPS as "60" in INI file. Everything maxed EXCEPT "normal" shadows and "interactive fog" disabled (it's a massive power hog). Performance test averaged at 47 FPS which would be fine, but there is this weird stutter when VSYNC is enabled. Disabling VSYNC fixed that issue. City (while driving with batmobile) is also around 45fps.

So yeah, disable VSYNC if you have stutter. Runs smooth enough for me.
 

Vex_

Banned
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Is this real? Link to video? Please?

On topic: this was more or less going to be my first impression of PC gaming with Batman arkham knight, and this is making me think (judging by the comments of this thread) this is a common occurence.

Do you guys just deal with this or what? Im not even sure I want to even play this on PC anymore. Not saying consoles are flawless, but how do you lose 20 - 30 frames and then get constant crashes after the first? Jesus, rocksteady.

Im not home to try it out, so maybe it isnt that bad?
 
I'm looking at the steam reviews and either Nvidia users are more vocal or they have way more trouble than AMD users with performance.

Are the Nvidia drivers out for this game?

Hmm I just got a Win10 Nvidia Driver today just for this game... Ver. 353.30

GeForce Windows 10 Driver
Just in time for the highly anticipated title Batman: Arkham Knight this new GeForce Game Ready driver ensures you'll have the best possible gaming experience. With support for GeForce SLI technology and one-click game setting optimizations within GeForce Experience, you'll have the best possible performance and image quality during gameplay.
 

RyudBoy

Member
Do you have vsync on? I am no technowizard so I may be barking up the wrong tree but that sounds like it might be a vsync... thing.

Vsync in nvidia control panel with triple buffering on. What you're thinking of is double buffering. That would lock the framerate to 30 anytime it dips below your refresh rate, so something else is wrong here.

I get small dips when I'm just flying around but it never locks to 30 like it does in the batmobile shootouts.
 

Mononoke

Banned
Developers shiting on our heads again unfortunally... My game still locked out but as i read all this my bat Heart was crushed and... crushed and... crushed....

It's honestly making me wonder if I should just get it on PS4. lol Reading those reviews claiming it's a smooth locked 30 FPS. I got this for free on PC with my GTX 980. I have to hope that this game obviously looks better on PC, so it's still worth sticking out.

But hearing it looks great and runs great on PS4. I mean, it's tempting playing it on PS4 on my 4K TV (and while yeah the game isn't 4K, the screen is gorgeous and 1080p stuff looks amazing).

Gonna wait a day or two and see what happens. Or hell, I'm about to boot it up in 50 min, and see what my actual performance is. But reading through the thread, fuck.

Does the game run this bad on consoles? or is its just some shitty port.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-batman-arkham-knight

According to DF, PS4 is rock solid majority of the time. Since it also hates my AMD GPU, I think I'll get the console version. At least I won't feel so bad about waiting for Fury X.
 

X05

Upside, inside out he's livin la vida loca, He'll push and pull you down, livin la vida loca
Ok so we've had 2x 280x users and 1x 280 user report terrible min framerates and poor perfromance.

It seems like the new Beta drivers may have improved things on 290/290x but not on older AMD cards.

Please test faster, guinea pigs.

Edit: And now one 280x user saying its fine for him.
Steam is taking its sweet ass time in downloading it :(
After it does, gonna test it with the old and new drivers... and my test will the ultimate one, as it's going to be on a laptop! (the card is a FirePro M6000, basically a 7770)

#dead

Darkness!

No parents!

Game stutters!
LOL, perfect!

Guess they should have delayed it two weeks like usual.
It's quite something though that this game was delayed a lot and still has all these issues. I'm guessing that had they released this back in October as originally intended, they would've given Ubi a run for its money XD

Gonna be spending a lot of time with DMC4SE tomorrow looks like

Thank God for MT Framework and its wonderful optimization
MTF is god-tier, DMC4 ran at 720p60 on my old laptop with an anemic 2GHz C2D and a 8600M GT.

Anybody who pre-ordered through Nuuvem unable to redeem their key on Steam yet? I'm assuming I must wait until midnight, but I was hoping to pre-load.
The Nuuvem keys are preorder ones, you can activate them on Steam as soon as you get them.
 

Ibuki

Banned
I'm looking at the steam reviews and either Nvidia users are more vocal or they have way more trouble than AMD users with performance.

Are the Nvidia drivers out for this game?

I didn't see anyone answer this yet. The new drivers are already out, not sure if you can download from the site, but the GeForce Experience app has them up.
 

ktroopa

Member
This is pretty random but try playing any other game it works with and leaving it toggled on and then running Batman and see if it starts with it on. Another thing is try launching the game from GeForce Experience instead of from Steam.

thanks again, but no dice. im gona leave it, all other games work fine, guess this one wants to be special :) if someone does work out the answer for msi overlay not showing please can a mod add it to the first post? thanks
 

jett

D-Member
DRM. Hard to crack so publishers like it, but it supposedly has a measurable performance impact, which obviously paying customers are not too excited about.

Not only do we get a garbage port, we are saddled with this shit too.

This is going to end up being one of those cases were pirates get the better experience, isn't it.
 
Other than the batmobile, my performance has been a solid 60 at 1080 on my i7 950 + 980 Ti. Batmobile performance is all over the place but it doesn't go below 30 so I can deal with it.
 

BashNasty

Member
So, I posted earlier, but I saw some people asking: I'm currently playing this on PC with a completely smooth experience at 1440p. I'm guessing this is likely due to me using G-sync. My specs:

970
2500k standard clock
8gb ram
Windows 8.1
G-sync monitor

So far everything, outside the opening video cutscenes, has run like butter. The game performs beautifully. Could the problems everyone is having have something to do with Vsync?
 

Qassim

Member
Do we have any actual proof Denuvo is in this game? I was watching the disk I/O for this game whilst playing it and didn't see anything out of the ordinary, mostly low, not regular (as you would expect based off the reports of what Denuvo does).

So, I posted earlier, but I saw some people asking: I'm currently playing this on PC with a completely smooth experience at 1440p. I'm guessing this is likely due to me using G-sync. My specs:

970
2500k standard clock
8gb ram
Windows 8.1
G-sync monitor

So far everything, outside the opening video cutscenes, has run like butter. The game performs beautifully. Could the problems everyone is having have something to do with Vsync?

I also suspect there is a reasonable amount of blame on v-sync as I'm surprisingly getting a relatively smooth experience on one 780 + G-Sync (as I've disabled SLI). 60-80fps out in the open, above the city, 50-70fps on the ground. I do get more performance fluctuations in the batmobile when driving fast, sometimes down to about 45fps, but no significant stuttering.
 

GHG

Member
Just read the whole thread... Wow, well that's money down the drain unless they miraculously fix this soon.

Should have got this on the PS4.

I'm not even sure if I'll like the game either...
 
So, I posted earlier, but I saw some people asking: I'm currently playing this on PC with a completely smooth experience at 1440p. I'm guessing this is likely due to me using G-sync. My specs:

970
2500k standard clock
8gb ram
Windows 8.1
G-sync monitor

So far everything, outside the opening video cutscenes, has run like butter. The game performs beautifully. Could the problems everyone is having have something to do with Vsync?

PS4 Digital Foundry mentions that PS4 does tear at time, so that could be reason for drops

But a 970 should be a lot more powerful than PS4 GPU, so its no excuse
 

epmode

Member
Is this real? Link to video? Please?

On topic: this was more or less going to be my first impression of PC gaming with Batman arkham knight, and this is making me think (judging by the comments of this thread) this is a common occurence.

PC performance threads are usually filled with a lot of complaining even when it's a good port. GAF's a big place and it's virtually impossible for developers to test their games for all possible hardware and software configurations.

This game has some telltale signs of a particularly bad PC port though: A 30 FPS lock by default + no PC review code + stealth DRM on top of Steam's basic DRM.
 
I'm looking at the steam reviews and either Nvidia users are more vocal or they have way more trouble than AMD users with performance.

Are the Nvidia drivers out for this game?

Yes the drivers are out (353.50), but I don't remember seeing the logo of Batman Akrham knight or reading something about it in the change log; it mentioned the Nvidia shield thing. I probably missed it.



Why don't people get it? Nvidia Physx, Nvidia "turbulence", Gameworks, Hairworks,soft-shadows or whatever they called them,...etc. The only decent thing I can think off is HBAO. They are refusing to release optimized drivers for 1 year old cards and they don't give a damn about the demands to release DX11 driver profiles for antialiasing, nor about the newly suggested tessellation control (because they want to sort out "weak outdated cards" and push their stupid TXAA and DSR). Even if you have their stupid "flagship" card, you are not safe DURING its best years nor after a new lineup is released; you will always be under that 60fps mark as long as you have everything on ultra.

Nvidia is recently busy with their new projects and streaming services. Hopefully that will help adjusting the market share or making Nvidia go bankrupt.
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
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What a slap in the face to people who preordered.
 
Is this real? Link to video? Please?

On topic: this was more or less going to be my first impression of PC gaming with Batman arkham knight, and this is making me think (judging by the comments of this thread) this is a common occurence.

Do you guys just deal with this or what? Im not even sure I want to even play this on PC anymore. Not saying consoles are flawless, but how do you lose 20 - 30 frames and then get constant crashes after the first? Jesus, rocksteady.

Im not home to try it out, so maybe it isnt that bad?

Unfortunately this happens sometimes. But not that often, I think this was the first game this year which gave me so much trouble. Overall I'm pretty happy with PC gaming. I can play most games with 1080p 60fps, and a high, stable framerate looks so much better. Starting next year we will probably see affordable GPUs for 4K 60fps gaming. I really can't go back to being a consoles only gamer.
 

JackHerer

Member
Just read the whole thread... Wow, well that's money down the drain unless they miraculously fix this soon.

Should have got this on the PS4.

I'm not even sure if I'll like the game either...

This is basically how I'm feeling at the moment. I wasn't sure how much I would like the game since I thought AC was meh but was excited to try it out anyway. Not so much anymore.
 
Not sure if this is the case with a lot of games at launch

But checked the review page on steam, overwhelmingly thumbs down and complaints about bad framerates. Kind of opposite of Witcher 3.
 

tesqui

Member
Arkham City was a shit PC port as well. It constantly stuttered on my 670 and that was considered an above average card at the time.
 

Qassim

Member
Not sure if this is the case with a lot of games at launch

But checked the review page on steam, overwhelmingly thumbs down and complaints about bad framerates. Kind of opposite of Witcher 3.

Whilst as I said above, I can get a reasonably smooth experience with G-Sync, there are clearly problems with the game. It has been quite a while since I experience anything like this, even on a game at launch.
 

zXe

Member
Any reports on how the game actually looks? like maxed out does it look impressive as the recent gameplay videos?
 
Fuck it, i'm gaming on a big TV not a monitor. I'm gonna play this game at 720p and max everything and see how it goes on my 970. At least until they fix it.

They will fix it, right?
 

Alo81

Low Poly Gynecologist
Is this real? Link to video? Please?

On topic: this was more or less going to be my first impression of PC gaming with Batman arkham knight, and this is making me think (judging by the comments of this thread) this is a common occurence.

Do you guys just deal with this or what? Im not even sure I want to even play this on PC anymore. Not saying consoles are flawless, but how do you lose 20 - 30 frames and then get constant crashes after the first? Jesus, rocksteady.

Im not home to try it out, so maybe it isnt that bad?

Not only is it real, the pause between the question and Phil Spencer responding is WAY more drawn out in reality. He was really caught off guard.

http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/giant-bomb-live-at-e3-2015-day-01/2300-10378/

Starts at about 2:18:18
 
Man I am so pleased I only preordered the game on GMG and not the season pass bundle

I thought 40% off was a good price, but then again after Witcher 3 I expected at least comparable performance.

It should have been 50% off to match the performance drop.
 

lol

"I have to say, I dont see the problems people are talking about"

meanwhile, massive stuttering during bat-grapple and driving onscreen
edit - and fighting
edit - and gliding
guess some people are less sensitive to obvious glaring flaws than others?

I was thinking about giving this game an impulse buy but shit, not if I can't run it at a stable 60 at high settings on a $1500 computer.
 
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