benjipwns
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Batman v Superman Ultimate Cut |OT| - Men are still good (out now)
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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Discotheque
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WIth due respect to Guek's brave/foolish efforts, Atr0cious tried to provoke me into a debate several times in the thread only to be rebuffed several times, so it feels like it fits more.
whitemex88
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guek V astr0cious: Dawn of Butthurt
Watched some of the new material tonight.
Seems like the cut pieces with Clark would've done the movie some real good. It still isn't exactly a masterpiece but I can see the full scope of the movie better, that's for sure.
Maybe I'll sit through the full three hours in July sometime.
Seems like the cut pieces with Clark would've done the movie some real good. It still isn't exactly a masterpiece but I can see the full scope of the movie better, that's for sure.
Maybe I'll sit through the full three hours in July sometime.
BadAss2961
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Nolan had some of the funniest small roles and extras.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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You flew too close to the sun. Now look at you.
You know, it's true what they say about gaffers: born with no natural inclination to share.
yanipheonu
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Man I can't wait for the post on the philosophical ramifications of the Doomsday battle I couldn't make out behind all the special effects!
Atr0cious: "BvS is Snyder's perspective and Snyder's perspective is a visual language, and I am... no. Um, no. What am I? What was I saying? The bittersweet pain among men is seeing visual language without Snyder's perspective because... because that is *paradoxical* and, um... thank you for coming."
If I understand correctly, the fire that emits from the final battle-surrounding the chaotic fight- symbolizes the fire inside Clark that burns-the pain that he shuts inside from being rejected from this world-but in the end he lets himself be consumed by the flames and offers himself up to the world-much like the heroes of old.
TheGreatDirector
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I want to hear proposition.
yanipheonu
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I'm not sure you understand how pretentious things got.
In fact, I should wear a monocle.
Yea, I tend not to agree with his analytics but there's a line between voicing your disagreement and belittling. You guys are on the wrong side of the line or coming very close now.
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2016/03/21/zack-snyder-on-how-batman-v-superman-is-like-watchmen/
I know right. But you're right, I should stop trying to talk about film on gaf. Now, no one who's gets to read my write up on civil war: "capitalism vs libertarianism."
benjipwns
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My mother warned me about getting into threads with strange men.
Doctor Ironic
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"Perspective" and "visual language" are legitimate things in film, yes. No reaction image is going to shift the dunce cap from your head to the others'.
Atr0cious is 100% right: NeoGAF is downright hostile to actually discussing movies.
benjipwns
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yanipheonu
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I'd point at Zach Snyder, in this very article, not understanding the difference between villains blowing up planets and the massive collateral damage the hero creates themself as pretty damaging to the theory Snyder put thought into his imagery or storytelling.
Also, I legit have no idea if the Civil War write up thing is a joke or not.
This is literally wrong. Have fun with your memes.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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That's how it starts, Icon. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel.
yanipheonu
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World class rebuttal folks.
so what, just going to ignore things when they're inconvenient?
We were always criminals, NTGYK. Nothing's changed.
Smokey_Run
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Well, outside of like three structures (Wayne building, parking garage, and the building he's flung through), the villains are the ones who flatten Metropolis, not Superman.
Find me in that quote where it talks about heroes specifically causing collateral damage and your argument holds water. Did he? Or is that some specific thing people made up?
Thirteen pages in the BvS thread, Icon; we've seen what critical analyses are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?
But he is not our enemy!
benjipwns
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Sarcastic Bane in these videos is way better than Actual Bane. It literally improves every single one of his conversations with Batman.
benjipwns
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That should be upside down. We know better now, don't we? Trolls don't come from hell beneath us. No, they come from NeoGAF.
You're psychotic.
benjipwns
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The mother of a flying demon must be a witch. The punishment for witches, what is that? That's right. Death by fire.
benjipwns
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SWEAR TO ME, WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?
Pop-O-Matic
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So...what's everyone's opinion of Iron Man 3?
benjipwns
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Mother of God, would you look at the time. When I came to this thread, I had an hour. Now it's less. I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just... do things.
Well, I don't know about you, but I feel I've covered more or less everything I wanted to cover on BvS.
Maybe a discussion on the hyper/toxic masculinity themes with the film...but I feel less bothered by the UC, since it included more women in more significant and better done active roles, so even if it's depictions are still somewhat problematic, its an improvement over the TC. Besides, that, of all topics, is not one that's fun. People get defensive just out of habit and I feel it's a topic that's just more exhausting to discuss. If Atr0cious decided to argue against it, I'd feel it would be more important to push back against him in this case. The most visible issues, specifically how Batman and Superman interact, were covered on my post about their fight anyway. So I don't think it's a necessary thing to engage.
Other than that, I've said more or less all I need to say on the movie. If you have a talking point you want to discuss on the movie, feel free. All I got left is memes.
gaf isn't the best place to discuss film but this thread hasn't been hostile for the reasons Atr0cious thinks.
Zack Snyder is really not a director worth dying on a hill for.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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It's a great movie.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Civil liberties are being trampled on in this thread; good people living in fear.
I figured I'd never watch the movie again, and then I thought I'd give the ultimate cut a shot. It's still incredibly disappointing, though the additional stuff does add something to the movie. But as someone who always wanted it to be about Batman versus Superman (go figure, given the title), I'll never really go back to it. Outside of being a very visually striking movie, there's not enough interesting things to spend more time on it.