NeverYouMind
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Need I remind you how shit the CPU in PS5 Pro is? (~Ryzen 7 3700X [65W])
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Breaking: Xbox and Microsoft reveal global price increases for consoles, accessories — and even games
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Boss Mog
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Enjoy man. I'm loving mine. I basically got it for free, I just sold the regular PS5 I was using and the Series X which was collecting dust.Haha, I wouldn't call it a steal as I've just bought one and I'm deffo feeling it in the wallet a touch
Makes it a bit easier to swallow for sure, though.
Topher
Identifies as young
It is possible...
*Microcenter
You can buy refurb PS5 Pros as well though.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
without question. They do this all the time on diff things such as this.
"market conditions" makes it super easy for all companies to raise prices and no one question them
NeverYouMind
Member
The only goal was PC built from scratch to match $750 price point and performance. That GPU if maintained and not overclocked foolishly will likely outlive new PS5 Pro by half a decade. The refurbishing of a GPU by Micro Center affiliates holds a lot more weight than the shit that passes for refurbished in GameStop and the like.
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Dural
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cough COVID cough
Anyway, last friday we went to Olive Garden and the greeter (young man) saw my son's G-Cloud and was asking about it. He then asked if I saw the pricing for the Switch 2 and the $80 game prices. He wasn't happy about it, I imagine a lot of people aren't going to be buying as many games at these prices.
Topher
Identifies as young
I didn't say you didn't meet the "goal". But every time this comes up the only PCs that seem to meet it are using used or refurbed parts. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
Covid opened the floodgates for these things. By design of course.
Thyuda
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Well that's most certainly one opinion to have.
It's not a good one, but hey, at least you took out some time of your day to write... well... that.
NeverYouMind
Member
It was a toss up between new 4060, new 7600XT, and refurbished 3070 at the same price. Even if I could personally tweak the former two to run multiplats better than PS5 Pro, the hardware of 3070 is more comparable in my opinion. At the same settings there is only about a 5 frame difference.
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FrankWza
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Sony Too knows no bounds
rubik's dude
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Not an opinion.
Moaning about price hikes and delusionally thinking the industry's "going to learn" doesn't change how marked up graphics cards and consoles still sell out instantly in the real world.
The vocal minority are the only ones who learn anything, or they just attack people online because that's all they can do.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
There is a 0.00% shot I pay $400 bones for a shitty S
and 0.00% shot I pay $600 for an X
yet I am 100% buying a current gen console for GTA 6
WONDER what I will get?! ball in your court Sony
and 0.00% shot I pay $600 for an X
yet I am 100% buying a current gen console for GTA 6
WONDER what I will get?! ball in your court Sony
StereoVsn
Gold Member
You should really get Astrobot bundle (and disk drive if needed) right now before possible increases.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
Looking more and more likely
PeteBull
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Thats totally ur call, just saying nowadays u can easily buy topend pre-build gaming pc, everything pre-installed and ready for u to just buy games/play them, using ur gamepad(ps4,ps5 or xbox one, hell or other ones too, games on pc play well on joypads nowadays).
U can play pc games using ur 60-70inches oled tv too, from ur confy couch, ofc ur call in the end, just saying dont look at modern day pc gaming same way u looked at it 10/20/30years ago, its very plug and play.
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StereoVsn
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In reality even if PC is say $250-300 more, that's alright since you don't have to pay for online gaming. That saves you $200ish over 3 years.
So that means you can pick up a new 5060Ti 16GB (or 9060xt 16GB) for around $490 (from Microcenter as an example) or probably even less in Europe and still build a decent PC for $1000 or so. That is going to be around Pro + Disk Drive (since you don't have key shops it helps with game prices) + 3 years of lowest level of PS+ sub.
Horseganador
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Seeing those green influencers who have been fudging PS5 Pro for months buying one is pure karma 
Sooner
Member
Then, you better buy that PS5 now before the price increase
DeepEnigma
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CrimsonTide
Gold Member
In a PERFECT world, Sony chooses not to increase and Black Friday see's a PS5 Pro w/whatever game for $599
Dreaming?
ChorizoPicozo
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kevboard
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the issue here is that they are the leader in this race and don't have to try... so them also raising prices will probably not negatively affect them, and they know it.
Topher
Identifies as young
I think if the analysis gets that far down in the weeds then we really have to start looking at use case. Casuals playing some madden every now and then vs folks like us who are constantly playing and jump online quite a bit are not going to be looking at similar costs. To your point, the comparison for the enthusiast really has to take all of that into account. So your $250-300 more sounds about right to me.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
Agreed. But for my sake I want them to try lol
FrankWza
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#arrogantsony
jm89
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If they stock piled even 2-3 million atleast they could probably go a quarter or two without announcing anything.
But that's a Sony who is aggressive and is still hungry to put the pressure on Xbox. Current Sony will announce price increases as soon as they can.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Wait, are you saying a Giant Corporation LIED in court to get an acquisition through and usher major consolidation in the industry!?
mayham2199
Member
Building a PC and all of that stuff is a non-issue for me. The issues come after that. I've already detailed all my issues with PC gaming ad nauseum on this site. A quick run down though is my Xbox controller would disconnect all the time and require me to uninstall it from device manager, reboot, to get it working again. I bought a whole new adapter and controller to see if that was the issue and it still happened but only like once a month. Going from a game to chatting with my friends in discord is way to difficult to do with a controller on PC. It all needs to be integrated like it is on PS. I can easily go to home screen, join a party, then go back to my game. The cheating in online games is absolutely ridiculous on PC.
I just had enough of it and went back to consoles once PS started having consistent 60 FPS games which was really all I needed from my console.
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PeteBull
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Sorry to hear that, bro, personally never had any trouble with controllers using pc, ps4 or cheap xbox one alike from no-brand, and obviously 0 problem with discord either.
And yeh 60fps stable is gamechanger, next gen ps6 will have even more stable 60fps games coz amd cpu's made massive progress from days of zen2 archi, add on top better ai upscaling and rt performance, and we gonna get beast of a console holidays 2028, expensive one but really a beast
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Luckily egg visited the tories who leaned on the 'independent' CMA and all of their concerns turned to dust.
Proud to be living in a banana republic.
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mayham2199
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Sorry to hear that, bro, personally never had any trouble with controllers using pc, ps4 or cheap xbox one alike from no-brand, and obviously 0 problem with discord either.
And yeh 60fps stable is gamechanger, next gen ps6 will have even more stable 60fps games coz amd cpu's made massive progress from days of zen2 archi, add on top better ai upscaling and rt performance, and we gonna get beast of a console holidays 2028, expensive one but really a beast
Yep found tons of people online who had the issue but they found various fixes none of which worked for me. Could have just been something dumb like my mobo usb slots or something I really don't know. When I was using my 360 controller I literally never had issues it was only with the xbox one this started. I did start using an 8bit duo controller that didn't seem to have issues but I honestly never gave it long enough to really know. Something else happened (I forget what) and once I realized I can transfer my BG3 save to PS5 I just rebought the game and started selling off my PC parts.
foamdino
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I rarely buy day 1 games. And at £80 that rarely will become never. It's ok there's a huge amount of AA and indie games priced reasonably and I will be dead and buried before I complete all the games I want to play.
I'll enjoy watching the AAA industry implode. This has been coming for years, it is not entirely driven by tariffs. Game prices are largely driven by huge headcounts and absurd development times, reboots, scope creep, poor management etc. This increase is simply MS thinking they can get away with it, because they are completely out of touch. Look forward to the coming game pass increase in the next few months.
The line must go up
I'll enjoy watching the AAA industry implode. This has been coming for years, it is not entirely driven by tariffs. Game prices are largely driven by huge headcounts and absurd development times, reboots, scope creep, poor management etc. This increase is simply MS thinking they can get away with it, because they are completely out of touch. Look forward to the coming game pass increase in the next few months.
The line must go up
GHG
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Rising_Hei
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+ It's not much more expensive to build a PC around a 5070, the prices have dropped a lot this last weekend, and even the 60 series fares are better (than base PS5). Yes, it's much expensive, but not prohibitely
+ No monthly subscription required to play online
+ Games are much cheaper
+ You can do much more than just playing
If Final Fantasy VII Part 3 released day 1 on PC, I'd sell my PS5.
Hector Hall
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Hector Hall
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Consoles are expensive because components and silicon is expensive, just the same happens in PC, so there wasn't such an opportunity.
Nvidia GPUs are up cause of AI. Amd not as much. and I would never touch AMD, but that's always an option for a console user. MS raised prices not just due to components and silicon, but a lot of different factors and poor business decisions in recent years. For example they lost over 5 billion on hololens.
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Topher
Identifies as young
That isn't true. Key stores like GMG and Fantatical are completely legit. Others like CD Keys are typically fine, but there is a risk as the source of the key isn't fully known. Having said that, I've purchased from CD keys on many occassions and never had a problem. Of course, I only buy from sellers with high ratings.
Matsuchezz
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This is the time for Sony to put the final nail
In the coffin. And bury Xbox once and forever.
In the coffin. And bury Xbox once and forever.
Dr. Wilkinson
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It doesn't matter anyway. Even with all the acquisitions, Microsoft's share of the gaming space is still single digits.Wait, are you saying a Giant Corporation LIED in court to get an acquisition through and usher major consolidation in the industry!?
Gambit2483
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Dude is going to have an aneurysm, stroke or heart attack at this rate...his blood pressure must be insane
playbignbox
Member
Dude, even an RTX 3070 manages to have better results than the PS5 Pro in several situations, I find it hilarious when people compare the PS5 Pro with an RTX 4070, let alone an RTX 5070 as I've seen more than once on this forum
SegaSnatcher
Member
Extremely hyperbolic statement. The Zen 2 CPU at 3.2Ghz in the base PS5 was already adequate and a huge step above the crappy Jaguar cores we saw in both the PS4 and PS4 Pro.
Sure, it would have been nice if the PS5 Pro had a Zen 4 CPU, but its just a mid-gen enthusiast model and not a completely new generation of console.
For most games the CPU has been more than adequate. We have so many games that can hit 60+ fps at decent enough resolutions. More than any previous Sony console generation.
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SegaSnatcher
Member
It doesn't matter if long term it ends up being cheaper, most people look at the price of entry. Also, PC gaming still comes with tons of maintenece like making sure all your drivers and settings are optimized which most gamers are just not interested in dealing with.
With consoles you have automatic background updates and graphical settings options are pretty simplified with easy to understand Performance/Resolution modes.
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