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Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker Review Thread
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If you're in US, Kirby is out in February, though.
NintendoLife 8/10 - http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/wiiu/captain_toad_treasure_tracker
And apparently $40 or being labelled a "budget-priced" game is still too much in Dan's opinion. Which is a completely fair criticism and should absolutely be factored into a review, so good on him.
TheMoon
Member
How is the camera a pain when you have full 360° movement and the game is about manipulating the camera to solve the puzzle of where to go/how to get there?
Zeyphersan
Banned
I also don't think price should ever really be a factor in a review. Prices change all the time. In two years this game could be $10 or it could be $200, but the scores reflect the $40 price now. Do all reviews inherently take the price into account, or just this one?
Artemis-Thoth
Member
Am I in the minority in that the price should never be part of a review? Focus on the game, I'll worry about the price.
Alcoholikaust
Member
definately gonna GCU this
Have $30 in RZ certs. This and KH 2.5 coupled with GCU make for some smooth sailing this week.
You could tell by a lot of the discussion on the podcast that they're largely uninterested in the titles from them. My tastes are like polar opposites of their tastes, so I can never really take their opinions on them as having any real value to me.
But everyone likes different stuff, so it's cool.
You could tell by a lot of the discussion on the podcast that they're largely uninterested in the titles from them. My tastes are like polar opposites of their tastes, so I can never really take their opinions on them as having any real value to me.
But everyone likes different stuff, so it's cool.
No, I think value proposition should be a part of a review especially since the industry doesn't necessarily have a standard pricing scheme like movie tickets for example.
And they aren't cheap
Nintendojitsu
Banned
Just this one. I wonder why...
Sectorseven
Member
Has Toad ever had his own game before? Be interesting to see if he can carry this.
Haunted
Member
At the end of the day, I'd rather have more reviewers take pricing and value proposition into account than fewer.
Looking at the GB review, there's still plenty of focus on the content, and the review doesn't stop you from evaluating the price on your own as well.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
It's fair, but given the amount of polish and content, I disagree with his assessment.
Chezzymann
Member
Yeah despite so many people on Neogaf talking about how great they are I just can't stand them (especially their podcasts) since they always ignore Nintendo stuff and talk down about their games, even if they're just joking.
SatoAilDarko
Member
Always felt $30 was the sweet spot for the game. It's stuck in this weird limbo between downloadable puzzle game and retail release.
Still happily preordered because I could use a good puzzle room game and I'll definitely 100% it.
Is there much of a point? It's only around one gig total.
Still happily preordered because I could use a good puzzle room game and I'll definitely 100% it.
Is there much of a point? It's only around one gig total.
FWIW the game seems to have a pretty extraordinary amount of content for a $40 release, based on what I've read in the spoiler thread.
No surprise that Giantbomb is lowballing here - their nintendo-coverage is absolutely ridiculous and has been that way for a long time. The other reviews looks about what should be expected I guess. Sucks that this wont arrive in Europe before next year though 
Surprised by the price-complains, I would guess this takes way longer to complete than the general 60 dollar AAA-game (and it also doesnt ship broken).
Surprised by the price-complains, I would guess this takes way longer to complete than the general 60 dollar AAA-game (and it also doesnt ship broken).
Often times Toad is hidden behind stuff, moving the camera can be slow. I died a few tines because of the level design and the camera. The free camera is a trade-off, you get deeper gameplay but sometimes no visible Toad. That's OK, it isn't a real problem for all of us but my 5-year-old cousin for instance couldn't play it. Again, not a big deal, it just stands out in a really great game. That's all. Buy it.
Nintendo has enough games planned for 2015 to release at least one per month, so no.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I don't necessarily agree with the reviewer's assessment of the value (having not played the game), but I think all reviews should take into account the value proposition put forth by a game's initial pricing. How it devalues in price (or perhaps rises in Nintedo situations) is irrelevant to how valuable it is now.
Nah. I believe that too. Critics shouldn't make assumptions of value for me. Talk about the game, movie, book etc. and I'll decide if it's worth my money.
He has not, no.
FWIW I've also read 11 hours with some stuff still to do. I dunno. That seems like plenty of content for the price. There are also
time trials
I do wish reviewers in general would be more specific in their reviews as to whether they've beaten the game, 100%'d the game, or somewhere in between. For me at least that makes a significant difference in my experience with a game. I have trouble imagining for example that all reviewers beat the final level of 3DW or TF. (Not that I've beaten the final level of 3DW myself!)
TheMoon
Member
You mean until February when Kirby releases?
The last couple of Nintendo reviews were written by Dan Ryckert (he mostly lead the Quick Looks, too), who's quite a big Nintendo fan. Maybe you should take another look.No surprise that Giantbomb is lowballing here - their nintendo-coverage is absolutely ridiculous and has been that way for a long time. The other reviews looks about what should be expected I guess. Sucks that this wont arrive in Europe before next year though
Surprised by the price-complains, I would guess this takes way longer to complete than the general 60 dollar AAA-game (and it also doesnt ship broken).
If you do a straight 2/5 = 40, 3/5 = 60 conversion, their reviews will always be lower, though. They actually use the whole scale.
I don't mind price being brought up into the context of the review so long as its a constant. Unfortunately its always done selectively. It always seems to be these mid-tier kind of games. Full price big budget games that are over in 8 hours get a pass, as do $10 indie titles that end in 2 hours and offer no replay value.
TheSlySoul
Member
It is a puzzle game.
I think the only puzzle game to ever get 5/5 is Tetris.
That being said if the low is 6/10 then I think I will enjoy it.
Orniletter
Banned
People in the import thread estimated the total playtime at about 12 hours (give or take) , so if 12 hours of a puzzle platformer (platformers are always short) aren't enough to be worth 40 bucks ....fair enough I suppose.
if you ignore the games that are coming soon, then sure
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
err, shouldn't the people who want to buy the game when it's $10 actually read the damn reviews so they can see if it says something like "great game but a little overpriced so wait until it's $10 HINT HINT HINT HINT READER FROM THE FUTURE IF IT'S $10 THIS LINE APPLIES TO YOU!!!!!!" and if it does then they can rub together a few braincells to decipher the meaning of these ancient occult writings?
or are we going with "once something is factored into a review, it is permanently etched in stone and so anything you say that might not be true by 2077 must never be spoken aloud"?
Zeyphersan
Banned
But doesn't that make it so a review is only valid at release?
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Pushmo got a lot of 9+ scores if I remember correctly.
Source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/1/7312633/captain-toad-treasure-tracker-review-wii-uPolygon said:
His main complaints are that in some of the levels the camera doesn't work as well as it should and in a few others the game starts focusing too much on twitch gameplay with characters who are deliberately slow, which doesn't mesh well, but that the vast majority of the game works really well.
usually this means the game content doesn't wow the reviewer enough to justify the cost even if they are poor at wording it.
Really glad to see Jeremy liking it - he is the best and least cynical reviewer out there imo.
Bony Manifesto
Member
To play devil's advocate, with the rise of Metacritic, that final score is etched in stone to some extent.
theprodigy
Member
Selective memory is a thingIt's just you. Most of the games have been given 4 or 5 stars.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
hold dat L Nocturnowl