Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

No offense but why is there a 145 page thread about this? Yea Charlie for sure didn't deserve to die for sharing his opinions but he's just a random dude. To tell you how messed up the usa is, people are fighting each over a random social media influencer? Why is the government giving special treatment to this case over similar cases? Blaming video games, triggering culture wars? Why is the president triggering culture wars and writing on social media about this shit? His job is to unify. That's the job of a president. I mean one has to be a complete idiot to ignore the cultural pendulum swings that are creating a more turbulent discourse with each government.

Even in this thread, people are fighting themselves over a random social media influencer? Literally ripping the country apart at the seams in a stupid tit for tat culture war? All while this is going on, the US dollar continues to lose value, bills have been passed triggering the biggest mismanagement of federal funds I've seen from a so called G8 country. As someone who spent some time in a 3rd world country, these are the same patterns of corruption I saw over there. People arguing over useless shit. Liberals this, Republicans that.... blah, blah, blah. Very soon, Americans will come to know poverty if this continues. There's only one big loser here as this nonsense continues and it's American citizens. The speed at which the world is rushing to reorganize itself is breakneck. If the US loses reserve currency status, it's entirely fucked for a myriad of reasons. And right now, the biggest winner is looking to be China. If any of you ever have the opportunity, go to China and you'll very clearly see first hand how the states is already being gapped in many categories.
 
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Did you read the article?
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No offense but why is there a 145 page thread about this? Yea Charlie for sure didn't deserve to die for sharing his opinions but he's just a random dude. To tell you how messed up the usa is, people are fighting each over a random social media influencer? Why is the government giving special treatment to this case over similar cases? Blaming video games, triggering culture wars? Why is the president triggering culture wars and writing on social media about this shit? His job is to unify. That's the job of a president. I mean one has to be a complete idiot to ignore the cultural pendulum swings that are creating a more turbulent discourse with each government.

Even in this thread, people are fighting themselves over a random social media influencer? Literally ripping the country apart at the seams in a stupid tit for tat culture war? All while this is going on, the US dollar continues to lose value, bills have been passed triggering the biggest mismanagement of federal funds I've seen from a so called G8 country. As someone who spent some time in a 3rd world country, these are the same patterns of corruption I saw over there. People arguing over useless shit. Liberals this, Republicans that.... blah, blah, blah. Very soon, Americans will come to know poverty if this continues. There's only one big loser here as this nonsense continues and it's American citizens. The speed at which the world is rushing to reorganize itself is breakneck. If the US loses reserve currency status, it's entirely fucked for a myriad of reasons. And right now, the biggest winner is looking to be China. If any of you ever have the opportunity, go to China and you'll very clearly see first hand how the states is already being gapped in many categories.

Republicans move to put Charlie Kirk's face on silver dollar coin

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No offense but why is there a 145 page thread about this? Yea Charlie for sure didn't deserve to die for sharing his opinions but he's just a random dude. To tell you how messed up the usa is, people are fighting each over a random social media influencer? Why is the government giving special treatment to this case over similar cases? Blaming video games, triggering culture wars? Why is the president triggering culture wars and writing on social media about this shit? His job is to unify. That's the job of a president. I mean one has to be a complete idiot to ignore the cultural pendulum swings that are creating a more turbulent discourse with each government.

Even in this thread, people are fighting themselves over a random social media influencer? Literally ripping the country apart at the seams in a stupid tit for tat culture war? All while this is going on, the US dollar continues to lose value, bills have been passed triggering the biggest mismanagement of federal funds I've seen from a so called G8 country. As someone who spent some time in a 3rd world country, these are the same patterns of corruption I saw over there. People arguing over useless shit. Liberals this, Republicans that.... blah, blah, blah. Very soon, Americans will come to know poverty if this continues. There's only one big loser here as this nonsense continues and it's American citizens. The speed at which the world is rushing to reorganize itself is breakneck. If the US loses reserve currency status, it's entirely fucked for a myriad of reasons. And right now, the biggest winner is looking to be China. If any of you ever have the opportunity, go to China and you'll very clearly see first hand how the states is already being gapped in many categories.
Why does it bother you so much?

Clearly his death impacted many. Not only was he killed doing what he was known for - debating with people. He was a good man. He welcomed gays and minorities into the conservative movement and set a good example for what a man should be as he emphasized the importance of family and marriage. People love holding up MLK as some pillar of moral virtue but Charlie exemplified all those virtues far better. MLK slept with prostitutes, had orgies and hit women.

Furthermore, Charlie provided direction and a clear message in an age where truth is nebulous and nothing seems real. He stood up to bullshit about gender in the face of massive hate and told simple obvious truths like the fact that there's only 2 sexes, male and female.

I didn't agree with him on abortion but he was entitled to his position. And finally, the fact that we all saw his brutal death was shocking and disturbing. The nation watched a man get shot and fall over bleeding out. Only truly sick and deranged people can see that and not be affected by it.
 
"just a random dude"

Firstly, what an odd way to describe someone who was specifically targeted in a political assassination.

Secondly, political assassinations (and other forms of terrorism) are treated even more seriously than regular crime because they are not just a crime against the individual but an attack on the foundation of society. The higher profile the victim is, the more powerful the attack is and the more robust the response must be.
 
"just a random dude"

Firstly, what an odd way to describe someone who was specifically targeted in a political assassination.

Secondly, political assassinations (and other forms of terrorism) are treated even more seriously than regular crime because they are not just a crime against the individual but an attack on the foundation of society. The higher profile the victim is, the more powerful the attack is and the more robust the response must be.

Yes, normally this is proportionate and procedural. At the moment though, this line framed around the current administration has a strong whiff of hypocrisy and overreaction about it. Last week's televised ceremony with cuddles and yet more rage stoking was just ghastly. Moreover, let's not forget there are many in the US who feel they are seeing attacks on the "foundation of society" emerging from places never thought possible, and not just the nutter with a gun variety.
 
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No offense but why is there a 145 page thread about this? Yea Charlie for sure didn't deserve to die for sharing his opinions but he's just a random dude. To tell you how messed up the usa is, people are fighting each over a random social media influencer? Why is the government giving special treatment to this case over similar cases? Blaming video games, triggering culture wars? Why is the president triggering culture wars and writing on social media about this shit? His job is to unify. That's the job of a president. I mean one has to be a complete idiot to ignore the cultural pendulum swings that are creating a more turbulent discourse with each government.

Even in this thread, people are fighting themselves over a random social media influencer? Literally ripping the country apart at the seams in a stupid tit for tat culture war? All while this is going on, the US dollar continues to lose value, bills have been passed triggering the biggest mismanagement of federal funds I've seen from a so called G8 country. As someone who spent some time in a 3rd world country, these are the same patterns of corruption I saw over there. People arguing over useless shit. Liberals this, Republicans that.... blah, blah, blah. Very soon, Americans will come to know poverty if this continues. There's only one big loser here as this nonsense continues and it's American citizens. The speed at which the world is rushing to reorganize itself is breakneck. If the US loses reserve currency status, it's entirely fucked for a myriad of reasons. And right now, the biggest winner is looking to be China. If any of you ever have the opportunity, go to China and you'll very clearly see first hand how the states is already being gapped in many categories.
He wasn't a random influencer or YouTuber. Read the ro...thread. This thread is big because this subject still literally consumes daily interactions in America. I hear about it every day and it won't stop for a long time. This event signified the actual divide in our nation and the fallout has shown which side is reluctant to come to the table. A president can't call for unity when the half that celebrates this refuse to unite and their political leaders also refuse to unite.

What about the lefts reaction (from elected officials and grave dancers) makes you think they're willing to find common ground, because the right sure as hell isn't going to budge after they're the ones being attacked.

If Trump is labeling these far left extremist groups domestic terrorists, you have to stand your ground because you NEVER negotiate with terrorists.
 
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No offense but why is there a 145 page thread about this? Yea Charlie for sure didn't deserve to die for sharing his opinions but he's just a random dude. To tell you how messed up the usa is, people are fighting each over a random social media influencer? Why is the government giving special treatment to this case over similar cases? Blaming video games, triggering culture wars? Why is the president triggering culture wars and writing on social media about this shit? His job is to unify. That's the job of a president. I mean one has to be a complete idiot to ignore the cultural pendulum swings that are creating a more turbulent discourse with each government.

Even in this thread, people are fighting themselves over a random social media influencer? Literally ripping the country apart at the seams in a stupid tit for tat culture war? All while this is going on, the US dollar continues to lose value, bills have been passed triggering the biggest mismanagement of federal funds I've seen from a so called G8 country. As someone who spent some time in a 3rd world country, these are the same patterns of corruption I saw over there. People arguing over useless shit. Liberals this, Republicans that.... blah, blah, blah. Very soon, Americans will come to know poverty if this continues. There's only one big loser here as this nonsense continues and it's American citizens. The speed at which the world is rushing to reorganize itself is breakneck. If the US loses reserve currency status, it's entirely fucked for a myriad of reasons. And right now, the biggest winner is looking to be China. If any of you ever have the opportunity, go to China and you'll very clearly see first hand how the states is already being gapped in many categories.
Yes, a lot of us barely knew who he was before this happened. But have you been in a coma for 50 years? Democracy has been declining in the west for a long time now and very few even seem to care. Many are cheering on and finding it hilarious.
 
Why does it bother you so much?

Clearly his death impacted many. Not only was he killed doing what he was known for - debating with people. He was a good man. He welcomed gays and minorities into the conservative movement and set a good example for what a man should be as he emphasized the importance of family and marriage. People love holding up MLK as some pillar of moral virtue but Charlie exemplified all those virtues far better. MLK slept with prostitutes, had orgies and hit women.

Furthermore, Charlie provided direction and a clear message in an age where truth is nebulous and nothing seems real. He stood up to bullshit about gender in the face of massive hate and told simple obvious truths like the fact that there's only 2 sexes, male and female.

I didn't agree with him on abortion but he was entitled to his position. And finally, the fact that we all saw his brutal death was shocking and disturbing. The nation watched a man get shot and fall over bleeding out. Only truly sick and deranged people can see that and not be affected by it.
Interesting perspective. In my opinion he was more of a provocative figure with a religious agenda and made a career out of inflammatory rhetoric, almost Milo level (if you remember that guy).

Kirk had some choice quotes about:
- downgrading MLK and the civil rights movement
- making a joke about how gays can't be thrown off buildings in Ghaza anymore because their buildings are destroyed
- Being anxious about black airplane pilots because of DEI
- saying feminism was a mistake and women's jobs is to take care of the family and be home makers
- calling George Floyd a scumbag in the immediate aftermath of his death
- saying abortion is comparable or worse than the holocaust
- saying 2nd amendment was worth it despite all the mass shootings

And many, many more. Now it's possible a lot of these seem mild to some folks. To me it seems this guy was set on taking society back into the dark ages. But I think more he realized he could make a career by being a shit disturber rather than doing something valuable with his life. One less divisive inflammatory online persona I guess, but I'm sure someone will fill that role soon enough.
 
A president can't call for unity when the half that celebrates this refuse to unite and their political leaders also refuse to unite.

Please. The president has demonstrated no interest whatsoever in uniting the country, especially since Kirk's killing. Even as the dead man's widow was saying she forgives the shooter to an evangelical crowd, Trump was openly avowing the precise opposite that actually he hates his "opponent" i.e. the left. Unite? He's doubled down on carving out a chasmic divide.
 
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