Christopher Nolan is back for Batman 3 and is "mentoring" a Superman reboot
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As long as the Superman movie-verse stays the hell away from Nolan's Batman movie-verse I'm okay with that.
No references to flying aliens thank you very much.
No references to flying aliens thank you very much.
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krypt0nian said:
Please don't confuse Batman Begins for Tim Burton's rolled up goth wank tissue, please.
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Andrex said:
Wat? The point was to illustrate that Superman has no where near the trash to come back from. Re-read I guess.
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krypt0nian said:
the movie you're referring to is called BATMAN BEGINS, not BATMAN RETURNS (this movie is also quite good though)
unless you're living some kind of charlie kaufman-esque rewind-life
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beelzebozo said:
Oh shit. I brain farted reel gud. Carry on.
The problem with doing a follow-up to Superman Returns is the kid.
I like Routh as Supes. I like Spacey as Lex (hell, I like Spacey as anything). But that fucking kid drags the whole thing down; and it's not like they can just retcon it away, because then that also becomes baggage.
Reboot is pretty much the best option, I just hope they take a note from the new Spider-Man movie or The Incredible Hulk, and not make us go through the origin story again.
I like Routh as Supes. I like Spacey as Lex (hell, I like Spacey as anything). But that fucking kid drags the whole thing down; and it's not like they can just retcon it away, because then that also becomes baggage.
Reboot is pretty much the best option, I just hope they take a note from the new Spider-Man movie or The Incredible Hulk, and not make us go through the origin story again.
Nolan is back for # 3? OMG really? oH WOW, the shock is too great.
if he said he wasnt coming back, the studio would escort him into a room with about 500 escorts of his choice, and a gold-plated treasure chest filled to the brim with bullion. Im sure one or two of the studio heads would offer to suck his dick as well if he swung that way.
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Xeke said:
Weird. I understood everything he said. The whining about the gruff voice is so silly. :lol
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krypt0nian said:
Yup.
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I, for one, am happy to hear both of these things. Isn't Goyer responsible for "That's not good.... ok that is definitely not good" in Dark Knight though? I hope Nolan strikes down upon him with great vengeance and furious anger if any of that is shoved into Batman 3.
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HamPster PamPster said:
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW
Discotheque said:Euuuck. No fucking way. People cry about Burton but I would fuck shit up if Abrams got a hold of this.
Anyways a very fun and interesting Superman film would be set in the 50s and have Jon Hamm as Clark/Superman (Mad SuperMen?)
Directed by The Coen Brothers or somebody familiar with a cool aesthetic like that. And it would need robots and DoomsDay and/or Brainiac.
Godamm i would accept this. Singer tried a 50's aesthetic but didn't go all the way.
A Superman film set in the 50's would for me instill a sense of wonder in it again.
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Discotheque said:
Robin would fit in quite well with the whole "batman imitators" dilemna that was touched upon in the dark knight. He's no joker, but he's still a key part. And who will keep the city safe when there is no longer the original batman was another thing brought to light.
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Eh Sounds like Batman to me. Again all the complaining sounds fairly silly.Monocle said:
What I found funny about Superman Returns was that the real tragic figure was Lois's husband.
Lets see the kid isn't his and the kid also has super powers so you can't discipline him during those rough angsty teenage years, your wife loves another man and that man is fucking Superman! How can you compete with Superman!
New villain right there!
Lets see the kid isn't his and the kid also has super powers so you can't discipline him during those rough angsty teenage years, your wife loves another man and that man is fucking Superman! How can you compete with Superman!
New villain right there!
Listen, I don't usually like to speak up when it comes to the Returns project, but I just want to clarify that Burton's take on Superman would have simply been a take on the Eradicator storyline (emphasizing Kal-El's alien heritage -- hence the need for an weirdo like Cage to don a black suit) with the villain paring of Luthor and Brainaic. No origin story, no super-kid, and judging from the film that actually got made I'm pretty confident in saying Burton would have delivered a better film. But we'll never know.Loxley said:Fixed
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So much shit right about this, it's crazy.Wrath2X said:
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In everything but a film....Truant said:
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When has he ever left the spotlight? Among the highest-selling comics, popular (and sometimes acclaimed) ventures into other media (radio, movies, cartoons, TV), maybe the question is when hasn't he been cool?Truant said:
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Yes Richard White, the son of the newspaper editor a.k.a. the hero's girlfriend's lover, gets hold of some of that strange Luthor-manufactured Kryptonite and he turns into some sort of Kryptonite-powered Man-Wolf!Wrath2X said:
To both Singer and Marsden's credit, Superman Returns was at least better made than X3. :lol
A somewhat darker Superman would be welcomed by me. It doesn't have to be goth- "OMG my life sucks balls"-dark, but making Superman a bad-ass mofo would be a nice change of pace. The only part in Returns that I enjoyed was where he gets shot in the eye. I was all like "Yeah bitch, fuck him up!".
I can't remember a movie where Supes isn't basically prancing around being invincible. I can't think of anyone who would act so gay if he/she were invincible (save Kryptonite of course). So yes, a grittier, darker, more believable Superman PLEASE!
As for Bats 3, as I understood it, Nolan had no intention to make a third, except if he got a good script/scenario. As for possible villains, there aren't a whole lot to choose from, since Nolan has Batman so grounded in reality that Penguin or Ivy will be almost immediatly out of the question. Then again, Scarecrow was a pretty supernatural character in the comics too, AFAIK, and he managed to give it a nice twist to ground him.
If Robin is going to be in this, I think he's going to be more of an ass-kicker than the whiney SOB he's been in previous films. Hell, maybe Nolan skips directly to Nightwing.
I can't remember a movie where Supes isn't basically prancing around being invincible. I can't think of anyone who would act so gay if he/she were invincible (save Kryptonite of course). So yes, a grittier, darker, more believable Superman PLEASE!
As for Bats 3, as I understood it, Nolan had no intention to make a third, except if he got a good script/scenario. As for possible villains, there aren't a whole lot to choose from, since Nolan has Batman so grounded in reality that Penguin or Ivy will be almost immediatly out of the question. Then again, Scarecrow was a pretty supernatural character in the comics too, AFAIK, and he managed to give it a nice twist to ground him.
If Robin is going to be in this, I think he's going to be more of an ass-kicker than the whiney SOB he's been in previous films. Hell, maybe Nolan skips directly to Nightwing.
The next Batman villain needs to be everything but insane. He needs to be immediately likeable, and not just in a "I can't believe he just said/did that." way.
Someone who has money like Bruce Wayne, and the capacity for good, but who is ultimately forced to make choices which put him at odds with Batman.
Then the story escalates as Batman faces off with a man who can be bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with, but is also smarter and more resourceful than Bruce Wayne.
Someone who has money like Bruce Wayne, and the capacity for good, but who is ultimately forced to make choices which put him at odds with Batman.
Then the story escalates as Batman faces off with a man who can be bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with, but is also smarter and more resourceful than Bruce Wayne.
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You should watch it some time. "Superman died for your sins" is a major theme in the movie.Willy105 said:
Supermen Returns was kinda OK, and to this day the only thing that i remember of it is that awesome Marlon Brando narration from the beginning: "You will travel far, my little Kal-El. But we will never leave you, even in the face of our deaths."
Also, Superman didnt blink when that slowmotion bullet hit him in the eye. Badass.
I will try to re-watch soon, maybe it will be better than the first time.
Also, Superman didnt blink when that slowmotion bullet hit him in the eye. Badass.
I will try to re-watch soon, maybe it will be better than the first time.
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They should use Clayface. Batman always felt some pity for clayface in the animated show which made him a more interesting villain than most others in the show.
It's either him or Ghul. I'd get a kick out of him being called "the detective" again.
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Now that I think about it. Clayface would be rather unrealistic in the type of world that the movie franchise has built. Ghul would be more believable. I'd still prefer it if they could pull off clayface without making it cheesy though.
It's either him or Ghul. I'd get a kick out of him being called "the detective" again.
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Now that I think about it. Clayface would be rather unrealistic in the type of world that the movie franchise has built. Ghul would be more believable. I'd still prefer it if they could pull off clayface without making it cheesy though.
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They need to do him better. The first one was so forgettable that I forgot Ra's was even in it. He fits all the criteria for an epic movie.Metal B said:
*In control of vast resources and criminal syndicate
*Has lived more than most humans could ever hope
*Has great background history
*Has the best chance of outwitting batman
*Ra's daughter would also fill the romance gap(every blockbuster needs romance)
*Makes for a great excuse to have Batman hopping around the globe(think jungles, the tundra, the desert.)
He should be remade into a bigger and badder villain than his first appearance.
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Superman: Red Son or bust.
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JosM88 said:
agreed with your points, just from the sound of them the scope of Batman 3 is already expanding.
I would really love to see Hush, since Hush does do the dual identity and fucks with Batman in ways Batman is unaware of. Also, having Hush will allow the deepening of the development of Bruce Wayne as a character, which was unfortunately lacking (intentionally or not) in TDK.
Just remake Lois and Clark. Teri Hatcher and Dean Cain look better now than they did in 1993.
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I've heard a few people mention him as well. I've always liked comics, but never had the time or the resources to collect them so I had no idea who he was. After a quick read I can definitely get behind him as the perfect nemesis for Batman 3.BeautifulMemory said:
He obviously shows great intelligence, physical strength, and he is more easily related to when you consider his relationship with his parents. I also like the fact that he is so involved with other villains in the batman universe. He fits a lot of the crucial requirements well...except for one.
*In control of vast resources and has connections with Gotham's baddest
*Has great background history(Tormented by dad, and pissed off at mom's lack of resolve)
*Has the pretty good chance of outwitting Batman since he taught him about strategy
*Catwoman would also fill the romance gap since he had some beef with her
*Can hold his own physically against Batman
His only weakness is that he is an even more obscure villain than Ra's is. I wouldn't mind seeing him in action at all after reading up on him.
Oh, and MMaRsu. She sort of does look plasticky in the first two photos(not ugly at all though). Her third photo looks the most appealing to me.
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Ra's al Ghul was great in the first movie; the choice to have him be an immortal persona rather than a literally immortal person was a brilliant way to bring that character into the quasi-realistic Nolanverse. There was not a great final battle, unfortunately, but the first 40 minutes of Begins when Bale and Neeson are training together is brilliant cinema.
Wrath2X said:
Now I want a sequel more than ever.
DoctorWho said:
Although hard to swallow at first, Batman was a perfect candidate to bring into Nolan's realistic universe. Superman...is not.
Batman is about the tragedies of real life.
Superman is about the wonders of the imagination.
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