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[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Well they are all kind of the same except for D2D. I already had pre-ordered it on Steam but if I hadn't I would have probably went D2D.

Yeah, plus with D2D you get the first DLC for free. I was already able to pre-load.

Just a few more days till I find out that my laptop won't run the game! :lol

 

[MjFrancis]

Ha ha! It's automatic, that's why I couldn't find it.

Well, that's a relief. It was so intuitive you looked right past it. "Why won't this thing let me save? Argh! Oh, it's been doing it for me automatically the whole time. Sweet!" :lol

 

[XiaNaphryz]

G4 - 5/5

Civilization 5 is a fantastic turn-based strategy game, retaining the same addictive gameplay the first Civilization brought to PC gaming almost 20 years ago. In many ways, Civ 5 is the best representation of the series and certainly the most accessible for new and old players alike. Not all of the changes work or enhance the game, but most are a large improvement towards an even more playable entertainment experience. Between Starcraft 2 and Civilization 5, PC gaming is far from dead, folks!

 

[XiaNaphryz]

IGN has a "What is Civilization?" article up for newbies.

 

[ZZMitch]

Gamespot will have a live playing of the game at 4:00 today. Don't go to GS anymore but I'll cut them a break for this.

This should be starting in 5 minutes right? Anyone have a link?

edit- found it

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/now-playing/?event=now_playing_civilization_v20100917

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

IGN has a "What is Civilization?" article up for newbies.

It's a game for someone who prefers a bowl of Kashi with sliced bananas, strawberries, and a sprinkling of brown sugar alongside buttered biscuits, fresh orange juice, and a steaming cup of gourmet coffee rather than someone who gorges on Golden Grahams.

It's official everyone, Civ is the Kashi of the video game world.:lol

 

[Sblargh]

Reading IGN's "What is Civilization" makes me want a retrospective. A nice little video showing "on the first civ, it was like this, than on civ 2, this changed" etc.

 

[pix]

I can barely hear the audio on this stream...

 

[ZZMitch]

I can barely hear the audio on this stream...

The video quality sucks too :lol

 

[Shalashaska]

I can barely hear the audio on this stream...

Don't worry, they raised it now so we can hear the GS employee say 'yeah' a million times and cough every 5 seconds.

 

[eznark]

I wish reviews led with "hey PC gaming isn't dead I guess, who knew!" instead of inevitably ending with it so that I didn't waste my time.

 

[gillty]

yeah yeah yeah yeah

WTF

yeah

 

[pix]

Don't worry, they raised it now so we can hear the GS employee say 'yeah' a million times and cough every 5 seconds.

YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough: YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough: YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough: YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP SURE YEP

 

[gillty]

YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough: YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough: YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough: YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP :cough YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP SURE YEP

mhmm!

 

[pix]

mhmm!

:lol Touche

 

[Cday]

mhmm!

sure

 

[ZZMitch]

Over already? :/

 

[Sblargh]

I liked the bit where he used the sea to go for the undefended back of the city. Game is obviously scripted so he could show off stuff, but I can see stuff like that happening on real games.

 

[pix]

So even though the stream was shit, i liked the Unit pull down menu which displays all your units and you can click on it to automatically select the units regardless of where it is. GDR with 150 attack good lord.

 

[FleckSplat]

I liked the bit where he used the sea to go for the undefended back of the city. Game is obviously scripted so he could show off stuff, but I can see stuff like that happening on real games.

Yeah, it's scripted...

 

[XiaNaphryz]

So even though the stream was shit, i liked the Unit pull down menu which displays all your units and you can click on it to automatically select the units regardless of where it is. GDR with 150 attack good lord.

God damn robots!

 

[DEO3]

That sure is one beautiful OP.

 

[Zing]

This sounds exactly right, and it's a step in the right direction. I hated end game Civ IV because it was just unit spam and managing stacks of 50+ units to even defend yourself.

I guess if you try for conquest. I have never won a standard+ size game via conquest. It was usually culture, space race, or UN.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

So even though the stream was shit, i liked the Unit pull down menu which displays all your units and you can click on it to automatically select the units regardless of where it is. GDR with 150 attack good lord.

What does it take to build a GDR?

 

[Zing]

Don't worry, they raised it now so we can hear the GS employee say 'yeah' a million times and cough every 5 seconds.

I thought this was exaggeration until I decided to listen for myself. What the fuck? The dude is like, "yep, yeah, awesome, ahem, yeah, cough, awesome", and I only listened for about 15 seconds.

 

[DurielBlack]

Maybe its been answered somewhere and I missed it, but concerning resources:

So resources are now limited and making units that use them can eventually cause them to run out? Do replacements ever spawn? How quickly do these resources run out?

Granted I'll find out in a few days anyways but still, seems like something that could either be very annoying or lead to some very cool things.

Ideally if they aren't replenishable hopefully they won't run out in a normal game until roughly the time you no longer need it, IE Iron runs out when you are nearing the age of gunpowder.

Would be funny to see an oil shortage and have it collapse the world economy.

 

[Victrix]

Resources are 'used up' as you build units, then replenished if those units die. So one iron might let you build 5 Samurai or whatever, but no more than that.

 

[Enduin]

Resources still function the same as in previous Civs like you needing access to Horses to have Chariots or Iron to build Swordsman its just this time theres a limit on how many units said resources can support at one time, the more of a resource you have the more units it can support at any given moment.

Its not like say the Settlers where Iron mines or Quarries have a limited amount of said resource that will dry up and you then have to find a new source. Its more about supporting a set number of units at a given moment.

I hope that the game will work out that if an AI country has say a lot of Iron and Horses that even if they are a normally peaceful country they will be more aggressive based on the fact that they have a natural military advantage over their neighbors.

 

[CzarTim]

I liked the bit where he used the sea to go for the undefended back of the city. Game is obviously scripted so he could show off stuff, but I can see stuff like that happening on real games.

This why I love the one unit per tile. I think misdirection is actually going to be a viable military tactic. Especially in MP games.

 

[TaeOH]

Well after reading the reviews, Sid is sucking me in again. Sounds great, and I really did not think they would out do Civ 4

 

[pix]

http://evilgeni.us/~ragnar/CivV-Achievements.png

Link to achievements with Icons

 

[epmode]

1 unit per tile = best change ever

Soooo much more interesting than stacks of doom.

 

[DEO3]

The manual has been published online: http://www.civilization5.com/#/community/feature_manual

 

[XiaNaphryz]

http://evilgeni.us/~ragnar/CivV-Achievements.png

Link to achievements with Icons

Posted to the OP to replace the text listing.

 

[Sblargh]

The manual has been published online: http://www.civilization5.com/#/community/feature_manual

ZOMGTHXILOVEYOUMAN

 

[DEO3]

Three new podcasts have been posted as well: http://www.civilization5.com/#/community/podcasts

 

[Rollo Lawson]

All right, GameStop is not accepting in-store pickup for online orders. I was going with them because 1. I want a physical cope and 2. I have credit. Since that doesn't really matter now, what's the consensus best pre-order bonus?

if you order online by monday afternoon and choose overnight shipping youll have it release day

 

[Macattk15]

Woo! Pre-loading on Steam. Can't wait. Haven't played Civ since Civ 3. Everything I'm seeing about this is awesome.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

if you order online by monday afternoon and choose overnight shipping youll have it release day

Amazon should be offering release-day shipping as well.

 

[Sblargh]

Culture Bomb: This order will consume the Great Person and make the tile this unit is on, as well as all adjacent tiles, become part of your border, even if they belong to another player

Sounds powerful. And the icon is this adorable little bomb with a musical note in it.

 

[delirium]

Sounds powerful. And the icon is this adorable little bomb with a musical note in it.

Civ 4 had the same thing.

 

[Sblargh]

Civ 4 had the same thing.

And it was powerful then, except now cities expand one tile at a time.
You are no longer adding culture to the city so the city has enough culture to expand, you are just flipping tiles in any direction you want, even outside a city ring, I imagine.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Maybe its been answered somewhere and I missed it, but concerning resources:

So resources are now limited and making units that use them can eventually cause them to run out? Do replacements ever spawn? How quickly do these resources run out?

Granted I'll find out in a few days anyways but still, seems like something that could either be very annoying or lead to some very cool things.

Ideally if they aren't replenishable hopefully they won't run out in a normal game until roughly the time you no longer need it, IE Iron runs out when you are nearing the age of gunpowder.

Would be funny to see an oil shortage and have it collapse the world economy.

Like it was said already, each resource has a unit cap. So if you have 1 iron resource you cannot build unlimited units that require iron. The resource doesn't disappear from the map or anything.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

The manual has been published online: http://www.civilization5.com/#/community/feature_manual

Looking through this, there's this tidbit:

Effects of Damage

A damaged unit is less effective when attacking than a fully-healed unit. The more damaged the unit, the less its attack – melee or ranged – will damage an opponent. The actual formula is more complex than this, but as a general rule a unit’s damage output is reduced by half the percentage of HPs that it has lost. In other words, a unit that has lost 5 HPs (50%) has the amount of damage it does reduced by 25%, and the damage a unit that has lost 9 HPs (90%) inflicts, is reduced by 45%.

So Japan's special ability doesn't seem to be as big of an advantage some may have been thinking, though that was rather apparent in the long playthrough vid.

 

[witchedwiz]

any offer/sale on this one (retail//hard copy only)?
after civIV i made my mind to only go after goty, but my civ-craving won't stop, so i guess i'll buy the retail civ V at launch :|

 

[Sblargh]

Woah woah woah, wait a minute.
Is there a tower made of porcelain?
*google furiously*
blablabla temple of blablabla destroyed in blablabla
Yeah, but it was actually made of porcelain?
*google moar*
Holy shit, there are buildings around the world made of porcelain.

What a fantastic little planet we have here.

 

[Sober]

So Japan's special ability doesn't seem to be as big of an advantage some may have been thinking, though that was rather apparent in the long playthrough vid.

It's probably still going to be a great ability/annoying to fight against since there might be situations where you might not completely destroy the unit outright from combat anymore. If you reduced a Japanese unit from 10 > 6 > 1 hp just throwing units at it (assuming they all died from 10 HP) that's alot of bang for your buck for a unit.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

IGN has a "What is Civilization?" article up for newbies.

that's for me! (I've never played a Civ game...but will buy this)

 

[fistwell_old]

Funny how quickly gametrailers' reviews turn to shit when it's carrot top doing the voice work.

 

[Dina]

Funny how a change to hexagons make it look, feel and possibly play like a board game so much more.