The last issue was 4 years late? Was Aja drawing it?
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The last issue was 4 years late? Was Aja drawing it?
ViewtifulJC
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They gave John Cassaday like...half a year headstart on Uncanny Avengers and it still took like half a year for those 4 issues to come out. And it didn't look half as good as his work on Planetary and Astonishing X-Men.
TheDarkKnight774
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God that was a long painful wait. You new readers are so lucky!
BattleMonkey
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Well individual issues also go for ridiculous $4+ an issue, plus these books area all packed with advertisements which also makes up for money. Trades then bring in good sales, especially since they are carried by larger retailers as well. Lot of it also is building up characters for merchandising purposes.
tringworldso
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I still can't get over how Mark Miller entrapped Frank Quitley into drawing the poppycock that is Jupiter's Lolgacy. As it is, Grant Morrison's Multiversity has been delayed for several years no thanks to Quitley and his legendary slow drawing pace. Hell, just give that issue to Chris Burnham...
I've just spent the last hour adding digital codes from my marvel books to comixololgy and can't help but feel like dc are missing an opportunity by not giving people digital codes on their books. Most of my books on there are now marvel and it makes re reading bits as a refresher quite easy. I forget storylines from month to month and have to go looking for books in my box, it's a pain. But then marvel makes some odd choices with digital codes like She Hulk 1 has a code but 2 hasn't. But Xfactor has it for every issue.
Black Widows art looks even better digitally.
Black Widows art looks even better digitally.
TheDarkKnight774
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As a now 100% digital reader. I'd rather they went back to taking a dollar off per issue after 30 days like image, valiant, etc. instead of 60. Still leagues better then marvels stupid pricing.
Freezasaurus
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DC is behind the curve on things like that. Their trade program is the same way. It takes them forever to come out in hardcover, and about a year to go from hardcover to paperback, whereas Marvel usually goes through both formats within a few months.
phazedplasma
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I woulda rather had another Kate Bishop issue than Hawkeye issue with 4 pages of Aja
Lets not mince words here, they looked like shit
I remember when Aja did Iron fist, he managed to do about 6 full issues.
Last eight issues had, combined, about 24 pages of Aja art
Anticitizen One
Banned
They should have made Morrison's Batman and Geoff's GL non-canon set in the old DCU but at the time they were too busy trying to make maximum money by pissing off the least amount of people. I remember when they were totally denying it was a full reboot instead of embracing it. It confused a lot of writers too who in the early new 52 issues refer to events that are clearly no longer canon (Death of Superman, old teen titans comics, etc.)
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think the only full issues Aja did was...the first one and the last one.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
In fact, lets break it down
Iron Fist #1: Nov.29, 2006, FULL AJA HOLY FFFFFFF
Iron Fist #2: Dec.27, 2006, Aja-Foreman-Severin
Iron Fist #3: February 21. 2007, Aja-Foreman-Heath
Iron Fist #4: April 4, 2007, Aja-Foreman
Iron Fist #5: May 9, 2007, Aja-Heath
Iron Fist #6: June 27, 2007, Aja-Heath
Iron Fist #7: July 25, 2007, no Aja, break in between artists to attempt to give this dude time to draw
Iron Fist #8: August 22, Aja-Martinez
Iron Fist #9: Sept 26, ALL AJA PRAISE THE SUN
Iron Fist #10: Nov 7, Kano-Aja
Iron Fist #11: Dec 19, Kano-Aja
Iron Fist #12: Jan 16, Aja-Kano-Paulido
Iron Fist #13: March 19, Aja-Zonjic-Kano
Iron First #14: April 30, no Aja anywhere fuck it Kano-Mann-Zonjic-whoever we can find!
Iron Fist #15: nother fill-in kinda thing, May 28
Iron Fist #16: June 25, FULL AJA WHAT IS THIS MADNESS
So, three full issues in about 16 issues just under two years.
Dude is godlike but there's not a deadline known to man he couldn't fail to meet
Iron Fist #1: Nov.29, 2006, FULL AJA HOLY FFFFFFF
Iron Fist #2: Dec.27, 2006, Aja-Foreman-Severin
Iron Fist #3: February 21. 2007, Aja-Foreman-Heath
Iron Fist #4: April 4, 2007, Aja-Foreman
Iron Fist #5: May 9, 2007, Aja-Heath
Iron Fist #6: June 27, 2007, Aja-Heath
Iron Fist #7: July 25, 2007, no Aja, break in between artists to attempt to give this dude time to draw
Iron Fist #8: August 22, Aja-Martinez
Iron Fist #9: Sept 26, ALL AJA PRAISE THE SUN
Iron Fist #10: Nov 7, Kano-Aja
Iron Fist #11: Dec 19, Kano-Aja
Iron Fist #12: Jan 16, Aja-Kano-Paulido
Iron Fist #13: March 19, Aja-Zonjic-Kano
Iron First #14: April 30, no Aja anywhere fuck it Kano-Mann-Zonjic-whoever we can find!
Iron Fist #15: nother fill-in kinda thing, May 28
Iron Fist #16: June 25, FULL AJA WHAT IS THIS MADNESS
So, three full issues in about 16 issues just under two years.
Dude is godlike but there's not a deadline known to man he couldn't fail to meet
GrandHarrier
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In the grand scheme of things the exact details don't particularly matter. Just hand wave away inconsistencies and enjoy the current stories for what they are. At least, that's what I do, and find it works best for me.
It certainly helps that one of my favorite characters, Power Girl, has a backstory that, if you break it down to the details is convoluted and contradictory. 'She's Superman's Cousin! She's an Atlantean. She's... ??? She's a survivor of a universe that doesn't exist!' - Doesn't matter. She's Power Girl.
So when I look at something like Green Lantern, I just know that Blackest Night happened, but the exact details have changed. And I don't particularly care.
But that's just me.
GrandHarrier
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Were it my policy to talk mess about books that I don't pull I might ask the question of how he can be so slow when his line work (at least in Hawkeye) is so minimalistic.
But that's not my policy. So I won't ask it.
P.S. Why is Tony Daniel still so Godlike on Superman/Wonder Woman?
I see what you did there.
I believe there are more offences to artistic taste in She Hulk than its getting credit for. Those faces...they keep me awake at night.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Maybe it's all that terrible Harley Quinn and Catwoman dreck that you pick up that's infesting your dome and not Pullido's great art.
I'll concede Catwoman but Harley is far from dreck and the art is fantastic in that book. Totally avoids the dc house style. She Hulk is fine most of the time but there is this dead eye thing some panels have.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Filthy and Messi, you two should just get married already. Quit fuckin' around
I like to think we are the Harley and Ivy of this place, Korupt being joker obviously...
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
First: Messi are you Jewish?
Second: ViewtifulJC: Are you or have you ever been a certified Rabbi (if you own a yarmulke, you're like halfway there)?
Third: Pulido gets an invite to the wedding and he's bringing all his friends with scrunched up heads along.
BuddyJoeHooker
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I am not, this will never work out. Korupt is the only one for me.
She's watching you Messi
See its fucking creepy.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
ViewtifulJC
Banned
when did Sean Murphy do a Batman book, I thought he was all about the Wake. I had to drop that, Snyder did another wikipedia history lesson and I was like "yo....nobody cares man"
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
when did Sean Murphy do a Batman book, I thought he was all about the Wake. I had to drop that, Snyder did another wikipedia history lesson and I was like "yo....nobody cares man"
Detective Comics 27. It was a issue of short stories and Synder and Murphy did a future Batman one. It was...okay from a writing/story perspective. Art was phenomenal.
You should pick that issue up just to read the Tomasi and Bertram Old-Man-Bruce story. It's so fucking good it blows my mind people weren't discussing it.
Yep, that is what I do. It is still weird, though.
KoruptData
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Detective Comics 27. It was a issue of short stories and Synder and Murphy did a future Batman one. It was...okay from a writing/story perspective. Art was phenomenal.
You should pick that issue up just to read the Tomasi and Bertram Old-Man-Bruce story. It's so fucking good it blows my mind people weren't discussing it.
I discussed that shit the day it came out brah! /rafastyle
KoruptData
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Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Maaan, wasn't it awesome? It was so well paced, so well drawn, and just overall, such a damn good Batman story. Tomasi took Miller's DKR's world, mixed it up, and made it his own quite expertly.
KoruptData
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Yeah, I was off put by the art at first but once I immersed myself into Millers Batman, it was fantastic. I think the surprise great story in that book was The Dark Knights writer Greg H. Probably the best Batman he is ever written. Loved how the art transformed in that.
They lack heart which is ironic because the book is big on heart.
Just finished the "Sinners" arc in Criminal. Damn, has every single arc been perfectly executed. I want to savor this last arc, "The Last of the Innocent", especially because I've hears it's the best one, as well as the arc Brubaker is most proud of.
Maybe they'll write some more??
Maybe they'll write some more??
KoruptData
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God damn. In Planetary....
Thanks so much for the link with summaries and analysis.
I never really read FF so my brain never put together that The Four were representations of them.
Thanks so much for the link with summaries and analysis.
Freezasaurus
Member
Probably not soon. But Image will be doing reprints of existing Criminal books as well as Incognito. But after Fatale ends, Phillips and Brubaker will be doing a new book called The Fade Out, set in 1940's Hollywood. It'll probably have a similar vibe to Criminal.
BuddyJoeHooker
Member
Yeesh
Criminal, Zero and Planetary
Does everybody leave reading the good stuff until Sunday?
Criminal, Zero and Planetary
Does everybody leave reading the good stuff until Sunday?
KoruptData
Member
Read Captain Marvel and I liked it but with me being a DC fan, I set a limit at 3 Marvel Books. We have Superior/Amazing Spider-Man, Ms Marvel, Captain Marvel, and Moon Knight.
We will see.
We will see.
Brubaker has been talking about doing a sequel to Coward where Leo breaks out of jail more or less since that arc finished. And yeah, Last of the Innocent is the best Criminal arc.
Tizoc
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So quick question regarding Charles Christopher, only read this if you've made it to the 2011 pages
Oh I see, I like how the Bruce Wayne persona is utilized by Snyder, as in he doesn't just look at the Batman character/persona, but both and how both affect the other and how they're related.
When Charles was playing with the ducklings, were those Townsen's family being killed?
Oh I see, I like how the Bruce Wayne persona is utilized by Snyder, as in he doesn't just look at the Batman character/persona, but both and how both affect the other and how they're related.
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