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Concord is being taken offline on September 6, purchases refunded
Guerilla Munch
Member
"why would I care about a bunch of talentless freaks hating on it"
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I am willing to bet if Concord had Redfalls actual numbers they wouldn't have pulled the plug
Lets not glass over the fact Redfall was a full priced game that was "free" on Gamepass where most people likely played it
Concord didn't sniff Redfalls player count
And the statement someone made who cares about Steam CCU
What other measurement do we have to judge a games success?
Itchy Tickles
Member
Don't know we're to start. It's always heartwarming seeing horrible people get a dose of reality. Seeing greedy companies / CEOs lose lots of money and face value. Seeing people who think the best way to support a group that's in the minority, is to attack and add hate labels to everyone else, then play martyr when truth and basic facts are applied. It's great seeing common sense actually prevailing over fake people and their fake sacrifices for their fake wars.
I honestly hope with these games, Dustborn and Concord, that it's the beginning of the end of these clout chasing, game industry ruining companies. I'm kinda sad that it wasn't EA or Ubisoft, would've been extra special. Guess having gambling kids and streamers helps EA, while Ubisoft has.....10% share drop in the last few days. Keep it going.
I honestly hope with these games, Dustborn and Concord, that it's the beginning of the end of these clout chasing, game industry ruining companies. I'm kinda sad that it wasn't EA or Ubisoft, would've been extra special. Guess having gambling kids and streamers helps EA, while Ubisoft has.....10% share drop in the last few days. Keep it going.
{insert code here}
Member
Twitter updates? Anyone? What's the word on X from the Concord fans?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
you lost me at "Concord fans"
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Exactly woke has nothing to do with race or sexuality. I have gay friends who hate wokeness.
It's really mostly about revenge for a fake victimhood if you really think about it.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Profit is the best one
CCU is worthless in isolation, and at the low end having low thousands is not really a success. It might as well be zero
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Buggy Loop
Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Watch this Asmongold video, in particular from 9:30 onward which I linked. 100% correct. When it comes to media, there's always some kind of smarmy artsy attitude about it, which no other industry does selling product to customers.
It's like no people in the entire company from deisgners to sales to marketing has even done marketing in college where you learn the absolute basics about the 4 P's of marketing which are textbook business theory from like 100 years ago. Even a roman dude wearing a toga selling clay pots 2,000 years ago had some kind of business knowhow. He just didnt write it in a textbook.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
You must have bought stock in this game or something, never seen someone die so furiously on a hill like this
I can tell its stinging
And he is on step 2 or soFixed it
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Nah. Why do you think I'm defending the game? I'm not. I'm just laughing at folks that delusionally think it's the most biggest bomb of all time.
ViciousAgenda
Member
He was telling us it was S Tier stuff a couple of weeks ago.You must have bought stock in this game or something, never seen someone die so furiously on a hill like this
I can tell its stinging
And he is on step 2 or so
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{insert code here}
Member
Same experience. Gay friends and don't know of one who i would consider woke. 90% of the woke folks I've encountered are single, straight, white women. Go fucking figure.
ViciousAgenda
Member
Much like the people who liked Concord, you're laughing on your own.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Kacho
Gold Member
It likely is objectively. It had a 100+ million budget and made negative money. I doubt we ever see a bomb this bad ever again.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Yeah he said several times starting back in early June how great the gameplay looked even though just a page or two ago he said there was no gameplay showing off the game
Dude is going through it and is pretending to laugh at everyone else
A+ workFixed it
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Even if a game is a total failure, shutting it down like this is a shitty thing to do to the people who supported them by purchasing the game. At least they're giving full refunds but what about the people who bought it physical? (Was there a physical version?)
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
There's countless larger bombs than that. Some that never made it to market like Santa Monica's new IP on PS4 ($150+M failure). Some that did. Suicide Squad lost more guaranteed (hundreds of millions). Redfall probably lost a similar amount (though great job on the 2,000 peak player counts or whatever you folks are giddy about there) and it shut down the studio. You have Anthem that was a massive sink of money and flopped probably even more.
The gameplay of Concord is not the cause of its failure. The gameplay and mechanics are very good. The package is about as unappealing as it gets with no long lasting progression systems and it's too complicated when it comes to teamwork for the CoD normies like yourself. And it cost money when its peers are free. That's why it failed.
I don't know why I should be ashamed at stating that the gameplay looked good. I'm not sure what you're talking about with no gameplay showing off the game, I'm talking about the marketing. It basically got stealth dropped and no one knew what it was until June.
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near
Gold Member
He’s been coping this whole thread. He initially started out making an effort convince everyone that Concord as a project did not cost much. Then makes an effort to highlight that there have been larger financial sinks in the game industry, comparing it to Suicide Squad, a guise to minimise how bad of a flop Concord really is. Then he starts saying how it’s completely fine for Sony to write this off financially because the goal is to find 1 or 2 GaaS titles out of 12. So much cope it’s unbelievable.
mendicant wages
Neo Member
Best comment ever.
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menmustmow
Banned
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_failures_in_video_games
its already made the wiki list of biggest game failures.
right up there with ET
its already made the wiki list of biggest game failures.
right up there with ET
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Too complicated, people losing always try to make it personal
If you think a game like that was "complicated" don't play real shooters that require actual teamwork
Its fascinating to watch really, he will lose sleep tonight over this
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Too complicated, people losing always try to make it personal
If you think a game like that was "complicated" don't play real shooters that require actual teamwork
Being complicated is a negative in this aspect, so not sure why you're laughing. It's too complicated for its own good. If you're an extremely hardcore player with teams that work together, it's pretty decently fleshed out but that doesn't work well with rando's which is how most people play.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
That's what most people think the game plays like, but it's not. If only it were point gun, pull trigger, it would have been more appealing to the people that are used to that style of play.
You actually have to cycle through different team members, gain their perks, and make sure the teamplay is pretty balanced between the various classes. It's a little convoluted with the asynchronous gameplay and most never even grasped it even in the beta.
If you're going into it as someone that just wants to shoot things and have fun, you're going to get destroyed by a team that actually uses the compliment of gameplay systems on offer.
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ViciousAgenda
Member
So what you're saying is, it's S Tier stuff?
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
From a mechanical standpoint, the gunplay is totally on point with some of the industry's best. Prove me wrong.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Laughing because you implied I couldn't handle such hard game mechanics like team work simply because I enjoy playing COD
I never played Concord thankfully but I can't imagine its teamwork is remotely close to what a game like Hell Let Loose takes to be successful in
bender
What time is it?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Game design made by a Professor.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I just implied that the CoD folks don't care about any of that stuff. And it's not based around any of that
ViciousAgenda
Member
Exhibit A) it's just been shut down.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
James has gone off the deep end. It's sad to see.Fixed it
You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become Playstation's Riky.
MayauMiao
Member
Modern audience game design philosophy:
Check your privilege before selecting a character of your choice to avoid cultural appropriation, point gun at enemy, consider their race and skin color of the enemy on whether they are oppressed or white, pull trigger, make sure to apologize to enemies you defeat unless they are white, avoid tea bagging or risk banning unless they are white.
Kacho
Gold Member
ViciousAgenda
Member
The S Tier gunplay didn't bring it any success either did it?
Topher
Identifies as young
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Nope, it was a necessary but not sufficient condition for success. Still, nothing I said about the gunplay looking slick is inaccurate. The game does play well.
Feel free to shit on the game all you want for the terrible art design decisions but it's not without a decent core.
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Kacho
Gold Member
Astrobot will set him right. 2024 has been a rough year with pickings so slim he’s forced to run damage control for Concord.
ViciousAgenda
Member
menmustmow
Banned
know your customer.
thats what this boils down to. what demographic are you selling this to and how large a market is it??
the "go woke, go broke" saying is more and more true because even though the "woke" crowd might be very vocal, are they really purchasing in large enough quantities to be the "main market" that you build a brand towards?
thats what this boils down to. what demographic are you selling this to and how large a market is it??
the "go woke, go broke" saying is more and more true because even though the "woke" crowd might be very vocal, are they really purchasing in large enough quantities to be the "main market" that you build a brand towards?