Razgriz-Specter
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Capullo already said it was a summary of their run on Batman.
Purple cape = purple gloves from Zero Year
Yellow outlined symbol = Gordon's Batsuit.
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DC Rebirth |OT| It's not a reboot, and it always was [SPOILERS for Rebirth #1]
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Purple cape = purple gloves from Zero Year
Yellow outlined symbol = Gordon's Batsuit.
These lead into each other and are both mostly worth the investment.
Poodlestrike
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True. Son of Batman went off a bit of a cliff with the creative change, but up until that it was firing on all cylinders.
Yeah. Maybe later. I'm pretty happy with the existing lineup, but it could use Harper and Vixen.
Nothing could use Harper.
Fixed that for you
Poodlestrike
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I blame Batman and Robin Eternal for creating a mass of Harper hate by making her such a terrible character. Maybe Tec comics can fix it though.
I want to be excited about Birds of Prey, but I'm too scared of how they'll handle Helena/
Bluebird is a pointless character.
There were already plenty of Bats or potential Bats to go ahead and introduce new ones.
Hell, Carrie Kelly is STILL sitting around waiting to be picked up.
And I like Harper. I just think she could not have been introduced at a worst time. Same applies to Duke. Not sure what the fuck the writers intend to do with him either.
Father_Brain
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beyond_death
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I really hope Flash is good. I want to be reading Flash again.
Poodlestrike
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Why would you use Kelly? She's a DKR thing.
Duke works great with the We Are Robin crew, but I was kinda surprised to see him crop up in the mainline title. He and Harper are both kinda conspicuously absent from the Rebirth titles, hopefully there's some plans for the two of them.
Damian being in Teen Titans and Super Sons makes me think not much. I kinda hate some of the things Synder did with 1) the Joker and 2) The Batfamily dynamics.
exmachina64
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Flash loves pizza.
Bluebird is the best of the current crop of batkids. Duke is going to be in All Star Batman written by Snyder.
Overall Harper and Duke were weird half steps where they were made by the guys in charge of the Batman line but weren't pushed to the effect that Cass and Steph during No Mans Land and War Games.
But let's be honest DC could always do the right thing and kill off that waste of space Tim Drake.
Oh man. I really dug Starling.
The page showing Thawne and Barry meeting and then Barry breaking Thawne's neck is actually preCrisis, in the big splash page you have the Black Flash next to what looks like Zolomon Zoom.
A lot was a bit of an overstatement, but it's there.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
My most hyped rebirth book
Look at it this way, there's absolutely no way it can be any worse than it is now
Roland_Gunner
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Since several people are interested in the new Deathstroke series, here is the solit:
DEATHSTROKE #1
Written by CHRISTOPHER PRIEST
Art and cover by CARLO PAGULAYAN and JASON PAZ
Variant cover by SHANE DAVIS
The Professional part one! Deathstrokes latest contract takes him to a war-torn African country, where he finds himself caught in the middle of a disintegrating alliance between a ruthless dictator and a deadly super-villain. With an entire nation at stake, Slade Wilson must choose between fulfilling his contract and saving an old friend.
On sale AUGUST 24 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US RATED T+
DEATHSTROKE #1
Written by CHRISTOPHER PRIEST
Art and cover by CARLO PAGULAYAN and JASON PAZ
Variant cover by SHANE DAVIS
The Professional part one! Deathstrokes latest contract takes him to a war-torn African country, where he finds himself caught in the middle of a disintegrating alliance between a ruthless dictator and a deadly super-villain. With an entire nation at stake, Slade Wilson must choose between fulfilling his contract and saving an old friend.
On sale AUGUST 24 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US RATED T+
Tragicomedy
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I'm not tracking how "it can't be worse" translates into most hyped. The current run is terrible. What reason do you have to think the new one won't be terrible? At least the art will be good for the first issue or two before I likely end up dropping it.
With Rucka Woman and a few great looking Bat books, the Flash is barely a blip on my radar.
Set in Waka-Wakanda! Dude is going to give Deathstroke that Black Panther treatment.
RepairmanJack
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I don't know much about the writer, but people seem to really like Nailbiter and Birthright don't they? Seems promising. Plus the concept of the first arc actually sounds interesting and at least like they're not trying to force the comic to be a lot more like the show to stay in line in some way.
Optimism and the fact that Willamson is pretty solid writer.
SUPERWOMAN #1
Written by PHIL JIMENEZ
Art by PHIL JIMENEZ and MATT SANTORELLI
Cover by PHIL JIMENEZ
Variant cover by TERRY DODSON and RACHEL DODSON
Who Is Superwoman? part one! Lois Lane takes flight! Now powered up with the abilities of Superman, Lois pledges to carry on the super-legacy as Superwoman! Theres only one problem: Lois new powers are killing her, and neither she nor her friend and confidant Lana Lang know what to do about it. Will Lois even survive long enough to learn the deadly secret of Ultra Woman?
On sale AUGUST 10 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US RATED T
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I'm not hyped for it the most because it can't be any worse, I'm hyped for it because it legitimately looks good with a decently looking villain.
The premise of it sounds interesting with an event causing more speedsters, I'm just excited for an actual story, when there hasn't been one in the new 52 Flash era, it's just went from one issue to another.
They introduced her into the New 52 universe, then did nothing with her AFAIK.
So they have decided to make Lois Lane the DC equivalent to Jane Foster-Thor?
I wonder if they're just going to have all this leading up to New 52 Supes and Lois biting it so that Pre New-52 Supes and Lois can fully-replace them.
Poodlestrike
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Holy shit, I'd forgotten all about that, lol.
Still doesn't make her a better pick than Bluebird, tho.
You misunderstand. I am saying Harper and Duke should really never have been created. There were already plenty of unused characters that could have been re/purposed for new stories.
Of course now that effort has already gone into establishing them, they may as well be used.
RepairmanJack
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Duke was fine, if We Are Robin could have stuck around. Thought that book was pretty good and really liked the cast all around.
RepairmanJack
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Flip those two and I agree. I was fine with Harper until Batman and Robin Eternal. Harper was insufferable and was just pointless in a story that was basically all about her.
Cassandra is best though.
Schweinehund
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Deathstroke solicits sound neato.
Only 12 more days to go. Don't know what to expect, I don't think Rebirth will be a compelling story by itself, but will be mostly setup for the next year's stories, like countdown to IC was.
Only 12 more days to go. Don't know what to expect, I don't think Rebirth will be a compelling story by itself, but will be mostly setup for the next year's stories, like countdown to IC was.
Man, why Tim Drake gets all this hate, I don't know.
Dude had the longest solo Robin run in comics. His Pre52 Red Robin run was great, letting him become his own super hero, with his own flaws/villains/allies/etc.
Killing off a Robin just to make space for a new Robin just seems like a waste. We have these heroes, let's take them in new directions. I'm tired of seeing the next Batman protege. We saw it with Tim. We saw it with Steph. We saw it with Cass. We saw it with Damian.
Now let's kill/remove these guys so we can create new side kicks, to create more drama between Batman and said sidekick, with Alfred as the middle man. Sounds great.
Wolfman already gave Slade that treatment
Roland_Gunner
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Baseless speculation time. With the news that Darth Vader is being cancelled, Rich Johnson is also claiming that this is going to be Kieron Gillen's last book at Marvel for the foreseeable future. Rich also says that Gillen have "other plans" beyond his announced creator-owned work.
This could be other indie stuff, but maybe he's hinting at Gillen writing the Justice League of America book that;s coming out in September? Would explain why Vader is wrapping up the month before.
This could be other indie stuff, but maybe he's hinting at Gillen writing the Justice League of America book that;s coming out in September? Would explain why Vader is wrapping up the month before.
Gilles on JLA would be fascinating and probably even turn out pretty well, but I imagine folks would be angry.
Like, I'm just assuming the ire Marvel fans have for him transfers to DC fans.
Schweinehund
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Writer to different company transitions are weird. Sometimes writers work out better at other companies. I wish Soule & Waid were still writing DC stuff.
I'd love to have Zolomon back. He'd have to be tied to Wally though as to not make Thawne feel redundant, or given a new identity.
Damn nice cover.
That pairing jumped out at me on that page, both of those characters originated with Wally era Flash.
Schweinehund
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Yeah I think Pre flashpoint Wally is a lock.
I'm just going to throw out my expectations for Rebirth:
-Infinite Crisis level retcon, someone is fucking with the multiverse. New 52 continuity will stay intact while characters "remember" significant events from older continuities.
-JSA returns, the big focus has been on legacy and Johns himself said he missed the JSA the most. Also Jay Garrick silhouette on initial rebirth teaser.
-Pre FP Wally returns, most requested character,
spoiler alerts on Flash Rebirth and Adult Titans rebirth solicitations, is possibly godspeed?
-New 52 Superman transfers powers to Lois, maybe this will happen in Super League.
-Glimpses of LOSH & Doom Patrol.
Poodlestrike
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Spoiler'd thing would be LOL. So much salt.
But the rest looks plausible ish, other than Doom Patrol, which is coming under a different imprint and is pretty unlikely to be a part of Rebirth.
So we would have a DCU with two Wally's then? N52 Wally had been all over the Rebirth stuff, that splash image, Flash Rebirth cover, Teen Titans Rebirth cover.
My Rebirth prediction is that the as of yet unannounced JLA book is actually going to be JSA by Johns/Fabok, they just didn't want to announce it before the Rebirth special dropped this month
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