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DC Rebirth |OT| It's not a reboot, and it always was [SPOILERS for Rebirth #1]
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Poodlestrike
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The biggest factor here has nothing to do with DC, though. Marvel has Star Wars.
Pretty much Marvel having successful movies and merging with Star Wars is the biggest powerplay ever
pock3tmonster
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This isn't a reboot?
You sound like a die-hard DC fan
ty for this post since it proves my intial post correct both Publishers have key sellers.
looks like you found them
.Like everyone has been telling you dummy, both publishers do it Dc just does it much less :3/
lmao
this is what happens when you fanboyism to far
DC should pay whatever money necessary to JK Rowling to license and create a Harry Potter universe comics line up. Of course they need to get the talent necessary to put out a good book, but it would be an excellent trans media cross promotional effort and would bring in a new reader base.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Dark Horse had Star Wars for years and they didn't do nearly as well as Marvel's Star Wars books are doing. Marvel's Star Wars books are doing well because they are good comics that are marketed well AKA the recipe for high comic book sales since Action Comics #1. Episode 7 definitely helps but you still didn't see two Dark Horse Star Wars comics in the top 10 consistently for a year leading up to Episode 1.
Put it this way: Getting Star Wars was a big deal, but it was still something they could have fucked up. If DC got Star Wars leading up to the Force Awakens it would be selling 50k right now at best because they are incompetent. The same reason Superman sells 50k. They can't even get Superman over 40k consistently and he's their most important character.
Interesting examples of how the new DC logo will be used.
https://twitter.com/andykhouri/status/732627421988425728
I like that it's less intrusive of the art.
https://twitter.com/andykhouri/status/732627421988425728
I like that it's less intrusive of the art.
NeonZ
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The classic JSA is shown in a promo image for Rebirth itself though.
hmmm I am sure the star wars movie that recently released has nothing to do with correlation
. you are just speculating man take a seat.
fuck it looks way better on books
C'mon, Batman is their most important character.
Father_Brain
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As Tatsumaki says, Star Wars didn't sell nearly as well when Dark Horse had it, so clearly it's not just the license.
And while I'm sure Marvel's market share lead would be a good bit narrower without Star Wars, that doesn't explain all of it. Looking at the top 100 books for last month minus Star Wars, Marvel still has nearly twice as many books as DC (62 vs. 33), and twice as many in the top 20 (12 Marvel, 6 DC, 1 Image, 1 Boom).
Star Wars comics were meh when dark horse had the property. Dark horse is a smaller company.
But ok carryon angry old man rant because this is def a sales thread
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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hmmm I am sure the star wars movie that recently released has nothing to do with correlation
you are just speculating man take a seat.
I literally said in my post that the movies helped. I brought up evidence that last time there was a big Star Wars movie the books didn't sell nearly as well because merely having the Star Wars license does not cause your books to sell as consistently well as Marvel's has. You are completely misrepresenting my argument.
Batman's their most popular character. Superman is their most important character.
When did they Reboot their cinematic Universe, TDK was it's own thing and Green Lantern was as well.
Rebirth isn't a reboot (it's in the OT ffs) its using the universe esbalished with the New 52 with changes and streamlining here or there.
They sold well because new #1 Star Wars books published by marvel in time for the movie release is a genius move :3.
You don't have an argument. What you have is a derailment of the thread
Edit: thread became a dc vs marvel over the logo and brought out shitposters.
Preferred the positive previous pages before this where everyone actually discussed rebirth instead of Star Wars
That doesn't make any sense. Their most popular character is their most important character and it's the character they put their marketing muscle behind.
How many ongoings does DC even have? Currently less than 52 right?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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They sold well because new #1 Star Wars books published by marvel in time for the movie release is a genius move :3.
You don't have an argument. What you have is a derailment of the thread
Edit: thread became a dc vs marvel over the logo and brought out shitposters.
That's exactly what Dark Horse did though lol. They put out a new number one with the exact same title almost exactly the same amount of months ahead of Phantom Menace and it sold 50,000 copies.
Phantom menace....
Lol you see why I am not taking you srs right
Let's move this thread back to rebirth. Some of you new posters can read the op and join back in
Schweinehund
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Bullet logo still best logo, but the new one is good too.
Comics don't bring in that much revenue, I doubt Warner or Disney cares that much about their comic division besides serving as an RND department for movies & games.
Comics don't bring in that much revenue, I doubt Warner or Disney cares that much about their comic division besides serving as an RND department for movies & games.
BossDarkseid
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I will enjoy Prieststroke for the 6 issues it lasts for.
I fear it'll be a Midnighter-esque situation. Great comic, fucking nobody reads it
I fear it'll be a Midnighter-esque situation. Great comic, fucking nobody reads it
Never read a deathstroke book but I will show my support.I will enjoy Prieststroke for the 6 issues it lasts for.
I fear it'll be a Midnighter-esque situation. Great comic, fucking nobody reads it
Is slade* still a villain while his daughter is good?
BossDarkseid
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-shrug- from the solicits that nature of what side of the line he is on is the point of the first arc. the arc itself seems vaguely reminiscent of his first BP storyline (african country torn apart from civil war etc) which i'm reading atm. Regardess I think it'll be fun. I like Deathstroke as a character but never really read an ongoing, I'm not sure what stories could be told for him as a solo character.
Schweinehund
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I will enjoy Prieststroke for the 6 issues it lasts for.
I fear it'll be a Midnighter-esque situation. Great comic, fucking nobody reads it
Deathstroke was one of the few non JL/Bat title that stayed around from it's New 52 launch, albeit renumbered. It will be fine.
Zen_Arcade
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New logo is so much better. The last logo was so bad.
Glass Shark
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Batman is my favorite superhero. DC books are the only ones I read. I only enjoy Marvel for the MCU.
When you're a fan of something you must be critical of it.
Poodlestrike
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New movie, new world. Hell, new universe.
The central point here is that the Big Reason Marvel is dominating the marketshare isn't because DC sales have fallen off a cliff (they're down, but not by that much) is because the Star Wars comics are selling like gangbusters.
Tragicomedy
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And yet it proves the exact opposite of what you've said. DC doesn't "do it much less." All their heavy sellers are specials, event books, and Batman. We've about to see it again at the end of this month, across the line.
You proved another one of my points correct. And lol wow DC has more #1 this month than marvel oh no :0. Lol DC still does it less. Like I said they are both doing bad outside of key sellers.
GrandHarrier
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Marvel literally reboots/renumbers series multiple times per year. Of course DC is going to do it less since their last renumbering was 5+ years ago.
If anything DC should do the exact same thing. Relaunch multiple times per year, run 20+ variants per issue and we can see where the numbers lay then.
Lol he won't listen only bring up more irrelevant stuff.
Zen_Arcade
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Guys, DC sells less because they have a lot of mediocre books. Most of their writers aren't very good. The last two times they rebranded I bought a handful of books for characters I like and I dropped all of them but Batman each time.
This new rebranding is keeping like what, 75% of the same writers? Though this time I feel like I'll be keeping a few more books on my pull list.
This new rebranding is keeping like what, 75% of the same writers? Though this time I feel like I'll be keeping a few more books on my pull list.
book quality is a hard case to argue.
Just because you read a small number of books form DC doesn't correlate to DC producing mediocre books.
GrandHarrier
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I mean how is that any different from Marvel. Their primary means of getting new talent has been to poach it from DC.
Thankfully DC is getting smart enough to lock up their best talent like King.
Zen_Arcade
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I think them having a shrinking mindshare in the market proves it. People don't just pass by good books involving characters they like. And it's not like people don't like DC characters.
Exactly. Before they got poached DC had a lot more worthwhile books and were doing better. Marvel took a bunch of them, now they have a bigger portion of the market.
I already miss Jeff lemiere :/ but at least we get moon knight out of it
GrandHarrier
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So by this logic Image is even more mediocre since they have like a third of DC's marketshare.
Huh!? We just talked about this earlier how the good books aren't being bought.
Mid nighter, omega men, and ect. Funny thing is it is not just a DC thing but a marvel thing as well.
Vision is one of the best books right now but has the lowest sales :/
Also I think people are holding off on buying some DC books since the rebirth is coming.
Poodlestrike
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Like hell they don't, lol. Midnighter and The Omega Men barely scraping by, despite being two of the best books on shelves, and the latter having Kyle Rayner as a protag!
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