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Zeliard said:
My goodness the graphics indeed
engine room when ignited-outside the ship walks-bridge with planet looming below and asteroids pounding the hull
Saw post page before PS3 verison 720p and 2xAA. Man does it show. I was looking at the character model up close when I was at the store. His helmet is smoother than a 1000 year old stone on the ocean floor.
On ch.3 now and TBH I'm disappointed with the visuals. It looks worse than Bioshock IMO. The first issue I have is how the shadows (or at least certain types of shadows) are horribly pixelated. I hate when things cast a shadow on my guy because suddenly I have a bunch of moving square pixel shadows on my back and it's really distracting in a hidef looking game like this.
My other issue is the alaising. That guy on B3D who said it was 2xAA also said it was his first attempt and that it's not definitive until someone who knows what they are doing can confirm. Maybe it's 2x...but if this is 2x than the game really needed 4x. Just standing still looking at my guys face the lines on his helmet are all jaggy and shimmering. Certain rooms just look bad like the medical room in the light. When the game looks bad it's really noticable because usually it looks pretty solid.
The saving grace is that like what happened with Silent Hill 5, as long as you are in dark areas in DS you can't notice any of this stuff and a lot of the game is in generally dark areas. It's only when lights are on and shining do you get a lot of shadows or alaising issues.
At least the framerate is great. But overall the IQ is less than I expected tbh. I got the PS3 version so maybe the X360 one is different, but it definitely isn't a top-tier graphical showcase IMO.
My other issue is the alaising. That guy on B3D who said it was 2xAA also said it was his first attempt and that it's not definitive until someone who knows what they are doing can confirm. Maybe it's 2x...but if this is 2x than the game really needed 4x. Just standing still looking at my guys face the lines on his helmet are all jaggy and shimmering. Certain rooms just look bad like the medical room in the light. When the game looks bad it's really noticable because usually it looks pretty solid.
The saving grace is that like what happened with Silent Hill 5, as long as you are in dark areas in DS you can't notice any of this stuff and a lot of the game is in generally dark areas. It's only when lights are on and shining do you get a lot of shadows or alaising issues.
At least the framerate is great. But overall the IQ is less than I expected tbh. I got the PS3 version so maybe the X360 one is different, but it definitely isn't a top-tier graphical showcase IMO.
Up to level 7 now, this game is pure win.
Level 5(I think) was incredibly tense:
Level 5(I think) was incredibly tense:
The Regenerator would never let up. The final part of the fight had me feel safe for a minute when I went through the door, I went to heal myself and he jumped out the vent and scared the hell out of me.
One of the local TRU finally got the game in today so I left work early, swooped in and snagged the 2nd to the last ps3 copy! 
I went downstairs, turned off all the lights and hooked up my 5.1 headphones and started the game. I'm thinking, how scary can this be? I played about 30 minutes and shut the fucking thing off. Maybe I'm tired and stressed from teh work week but the tension is unbelievable. Scariest game I ever played (so far). The atmosphere, music, sound.... everything works well together. I'm spinning and checking 6, checking and rechecking vents. I love it so far and was expecting to be underwhelmed.
graphics are sweet and much better than i expected, even from watching the trailers. they could easily make this into a movie. I sat and stared at one of the early dead bodies and marveled at the anatomy. You could see the dudes liver and stuff. But every time I heard a noise I had to keep looking up. :lol
i hadn't planned on using the DLC suit but i'm seriously considering it now. I'm such a chickenshit with this game for some reason, I want a nice security blanket!
I went downstairs, turned off all the lights and hooked up my 5.1 headphones and started the game. I'm thinking, how scary can this be? I played about 30 minutes and shut the fucking thing off. Maybe I'm tired and stressed from teh work week but the tension is unbelievable. Scariest game I ever played (so far). The atmosphere, music, sound.... everything works well together. I'm spinning and checking 6, checking and rechecking vents. I love it so far and was expecting to be underwhelmed.
graphics are sweet and much better than i expected, even from watching the trailers. they could easily make this into a movie. I sat and stared at one of the early dead bodies and marveled at the anatomy. You could see the dudes liver and stuff. But every time I heard a noise I had to keep looking up. :lol
i hadn't planned on using the DLC suit but i'm seriously considering it now. I'm such a chickenshit with this game for some reason, I want a nice security blanket!
fistfulofmetal
Banned
Chapter 8:
WHY DID YOU OPEN THE ESCAPE POD? WHY DAMN YOU? WHYY?!
Chapter 5 help
The room after you see the scientist guy the 2nd time. Is it impossible to kill the regenerator? I just keep puting him in stasis then killing the other things but I'm guessing he can die. Any advice on how to beat that stupid part, I keep getting stabbed then my arm, leg and head ripped off very violently:lol but really i almost threw my controller lol.
jaundicejuice
Member
For me Dead Space is not a scary experience, it's the moments in between all the encounters that gets me. It's the escalation of tension that gets to me. From jumping at shadows of beasties flitting across a lit doorway behind me that aren't there when I spin around. The rolling brownouts that freeze me dead in my tracks, has me whip out my gun just to have a light source that I nervously dart around the room until the power fluctuates back on. The ambient sounds of whispering in the background, a random metal tool being suddenly dropped, objects I disturb by accidentally bumping into them or the broken but still active machinery. Having to stomp on corpses so they can't rise up against me. Pulling my gun out and aiming at some vent or a blood spattered hole in a wall I'm walking by, expecting something's going to try and take a swipe at me. This is what gets to me.
It's almost a cathartic release when some gurgazoids do finally come bursting out of a vent, lurch up off of the ground, come charging at you from around a corner or through a door you've just opened, you finally have something to lash out at. The problem is once you put them down it's always back to you, that creepy ship and the wait for the latest horror.
It's almost a cathartic release when some gurgazoids do finally come bursting out of a vent, lurch up off of the ground, come charging at you from around a corner or through a door you've just opened, you finally have something to lash out at. The problem is once you put them down it's always back to you, that creepy ship and the wait for the latest horror.
RavenFox said:
It's a powerhouse, even moreso than the Line Gun. The normal fire is helpful in a bind, and can dispose of a whole batch of those really small bastards at once. The alt fire makes a powerful explosion that can knock out 2-3 normal enemies with a well placed shot.
robot
Member
chespace said:
You can actually see his face right before he puts his helmet on. There's a brief moment where you can spin the camera around and see him.
And his helmet is awesome. If I had a helmet like that I'd wear it every chance I could get. I bet he couldn't wait to put it on.
disappeared
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jaundicejuice said:
Well put, man.
that isn't hype, that's just pussieschespace said:
why not argue that he came there without any engineering equipment? that his main weapon is an engineer tool but it shoots stuff. that he doesn't respond to any questions.
or perhaps the "if there systems are offline you'll have to boost the signal." "I know that. . Boost the signal"
or
"so that's the Ishimura." " That's the U-S-G Ishimura!"
anyways, none of that bothered because the game is still awesome
very nice for a couple moments in chapter 5.RavenFox said:
also great for killing babies and clearing a path
Best thing about this game for me is the art direction. Everything is beautiful to look at. Wonderful mix of colors. Greens, blues, reds, oranges, all blended together to create a very atmospheric and rich world. Amazing what they can do with an interior of a ship. Gameplay and sound of course is phenomenal as well. Everything really polished.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/oct18_2008003.jpg
Here's the jaggies I get on my 34" XBR960 HDTV the majority of the aliasing is only really apparent on all the sharp edges of the main guy, but since he's always in the picture...
Then I went and tested it on a ISF calibrated 60" 1080p 8th-gen Pioneer Plasma and the jaggies were about the same (pic is dark, but what's visible are pretty much the jaggies):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/oct18_2008018.jpg
And the shadow stuff I was talking about is here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/oct18_2008028.jpg
Though the shadows are a lot more noticable in motion because the pixels move around like dancing pixels on his back.
Still the game is a lot of fun and wow playing it on a 60" is sooooo much more fun than on my 34". My tv's starting to feel old ;_;
Here's the jaggies I get on my 34" XBR960 HDTV the majority of the aliasing is only really apparent on all the sharp edges of the main guy, but since he's always in the picture...
Then I went and tested it on a ISF calibrated 60" 1080p 8th-gen Pioneer Plasma and the jaggies were about the same (pic is dark, but what's visible are pretty much the jaggies):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/oct18_2008018.jpg
And the shadow stuff I was talking about is here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/oct18_2008028.jpg
Though the shadows are a lot more noticable in motion because the pixels move around like dancing pixels on his back.
Still the game is a lot of fun and wow playing it on a 60" is sooooo much more fun than on my 34". My tv's starting to feel old ;_;
â Narayan
Member
Man, I can't believe someone is complaining about the fucking helmet in this game.
Just play the game and enjoy it, or get the fuck out.
Just play the game and enjoy it, or get the fuck out.
revolverjgw
Member
~Kinggi~ said:
The art direction is amazing. Every room I go into has interesting details and fits logically into the world. And it never feels like a cut and paste, everything looks and feels painstakingly crafted (aside from the samey-looking tram stations, I guess). I expect a cool new look to every corridor I go down.
U K Narayan said:
@_@
Because you can't enjoy a game while talking about the graphical shortcomings that you'd like fixed in future games? Or that maybe will be fixed with the PC version?
I think most of the graphical nitpickers have left gaf over the last few years. Hell even dark10x hardly ever nitpicks stuff visually anymore and he used to be more sensitive to stuff than me. I guess we've all just lowered our standards at this point in the gen.
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Deleted member 30609
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Fuck off. Keep that pretencious shit to yourself.Bebpo said:
Bebpo said:
Any graphical problems inherant in the engine is probably something, at this point, well known to EA's internal studio. If there's a sequel to Dead Space, or the engine used is applied to another game, we will probably see improvements in it.
Personally -- and I do like to think I have a keen eye for these things -- I didn't find any of the visual problems in Dead Space particularly nagging. It could be that the game itself excelled in so many other ways that I was expecting, that it was hard to call bullshit when I noticed the aliasing on the shadows, etc (Or SH:H dumbed my nagging reflexes, since that game had much more noticible shadowing problems imo).
Regardless, they did, in fact, create a custom engine for their game, and I think that these days (the next-gen days), that's rather fucking amazing since they could've just gone the UE3 route, sped development up 10x, and just released a game with the same old problems we expect of all UE3-based games (sans the occasional awesome exception).
In the game I played (PS3 here), the framerate was great, the textures were high res, the lighting was unbelievably (do not confuse lighting with shadows), and the models were quite good -- especially Issac's model.
So, instead of bitching about how there's aliasing issues here or there, how about focusing on the things they did well... since there's no doubt that anything they didn't do particularly well (very little) they already know about.
I honestly think Dead Space has some of the best visuals I've ever seen. A lot contributes to that (art assets, mise en scene, etc), but still, to say that our expectations of next-gen graphics has gone down, and use DS as an example -- I call bullshit on that, I really do. This game occasionally made my eyeballs pop out with how awesome it looked 90% of the time.
Just beat Chapter 4 now and my God this game kicks ass throughout. I am playing on hard and I find I am running out of ammo fairly quickly now. I predominantly use the cutter because I feel that is the only weapon that is doing something against them and has a lot of ammo around. The gun that shoots out the wide line has really expensive ammo and the flamethrower doesn't seem to work to well. What weapons do you recommend I stick with?
eastside49er
Member
I beat the game yesterday. It took me about 16 hours on medium. Best SP experience I have had since Bioshock. I highly recommend it to the SH/Sci-Fi crowd. Awesome game.
Spoo said:
I agree with you on most of those points. It's a good looking game and the engine is really solid which is impressive from a new team. Still for me the game doesn't live up to the gaf visual hype that it's one of the best looking games this gen. If I wasn't going in expecting AAA perfect visuals, I'd probably be impressed considering the staff and the engine.
I know a lot of people couldn't give a care for the IQ in games. I know because I've seen plenty of games with awful IQ being loved for their visuals without a mention of the IQ. It's almost like 30/60fps where it bugs some people but not others. But for me good IQ is half the battle.
Still this is mainly nitpicking as the graphics do the job and the gameplay is great producing an overall quality title. I'm just curious if the PC version looks absolutely amazing.
HugBasket said:
The preferred method is to get both. You can use this statement you're saying in any thread. You can say it's impossible to speak negatively of Saints Row 2's graphics because they did the best they could and further improvements would require a stepback in graphics. The best looking games out there find a way to balance fantastic textures, lighting, geometry, models, framerate, IQ, and of course art design so that every category gets an enthusiastic thumbs up and the visuals are amazing.
Anyhow the visuals in Dead Space are great, I just don't think it's the best looking game ever. Jeez, everyone loves a fight these days
I mean the first time I post some nitpicks I have on the visuals the next poster tells me my tv must be broken or a pos tv. It's like every game that is good must be perfect and no one can talk any ill or they'll get a fight.NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
1up show and Gametrailers review sold me. Gonna pick this up later this week most likely.
There is no both, people continue to ignore the shortcomings of consoles. Our expectations for graphics are pretty high and to run it with all the AA to make it perfect just isn't possible with the 360 and since developers are lazy with the PS3..Bebpo said:
Anyways, consoles are always going to have this problem until the big graphic leap isn't that big and the focus can shift to cleaning and not wowing.
If you need your cleaned up games now then play on the PC.
eastside49er
Member
Spire said:
You jump on the astroid as soon the blades start moving and then run to the top of the astroid before they start up again. Make sure you destroy the two generators by slowing them down and shooting the blue area in the generators before you go up to the astroid. You have two more up there as well, plus you place the beacon on top.
Spire said:
Wait for them to move to the side opposite of you. Jump on it. Run out into space. Stop the other two things holding it. Plant the beacon while in space. Wait for the giant things to move out of the way. And jump back into the room off the asteroid
Guess I was beaten while figuring out the spoiler tags, lol. Anyways, just beat CH10 and this game is awesome.
AniHawk said:
Eh, kinda. On 1UP Yours today Shane said this was originally a System Shock game and that isn't surprising. It feels more like System Shock than Bioshock did. I'd say Bioshock has a better story while Dead Space has better combat and light RPG elements. Dead Space is also scarier than Bioshock, but that's not saying much.
SonComet said:
eastside49er said:
Oi, thanks for the help.