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December Wrasslin' |OT| PUT A Z-PAK ON THE THREAD, PAL. YOU'RE WORKING TONIGHT
The more I watch Itami in NXT, the more I think they really should have tried to get Shibata instead(if they even could). He just looks more like a star, and I think it'll be immediately noticeable how small Itami is when he comes up to the main roster. On the other hand, Devitt definitely comes off as a star. I'm glad he's not wrestling in the body paint shit.
The Ascension is dragging them down big time though. The Ascension just remind me of Kronik, and that should say it all. They look like a team someone came up with after watching The Crow and Blade 1. Surely there's a better team for Itami and Balor(?) to be involved with. And I continue to think NXT commentary is hogshit. I've got your back on that one Stro.
The Ascension is dragging them down big time though. The Ascension just remind me of Kronik, and that should say it all. They look like a team someone came up with after watching The Crow and Blade 1. Surely there's a better team for Itami and Balor(?) to be involved with. And I continue to think NXT commentary is hogshit. I've got your back on that one Stro.
slightconfuse
Banned
Everything about that card shows how stupid they are.
KANE won a match.
The midcard belts meant so little that you could pick which one you wanted more
Christian got a win over a younger star.
2 Miz matches featuring the Miz in some capacity.
Ryback was after Punk
Cena closed the show
Punk vs Daniel Bryan didn't close the show.
Which, again, happened because he was given a chance to have the spotlight, and worked hard to make the most of it. But apparently everyone but Cena "lacks ambition and drive".
blackaroni
Member
Punk's 434 day title reign was boring as shit.
"Drops the belt to a part timer in the Rock" could also be written as "headlines two PPVs in championship matches with one of the three biggest stars in the history of wrestling". If having to lose to The Rock kills a wrestler's ambition, that wrestler fucking sucks.
My first impressions of Itami in NXT was that size is a problem. He looks out of place, particularly against the fat asses in Ascension. He looks small now, and NXT has smaller guys than RAW. It makes suspension of disbelief that he's this masterful striker too much for someone casually viewing a match of his once to overcome.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Hell, if I was working with someone like Damien Sandow and saw the reactions and exposure he got, why would I give a shit if I was in the main event or not?
QueenOfThorns
Member
Why did they get rid of King Of The Ring anyway? Even if they had to abandon it for generic PPV names like PAYBACK or whatever, they could still make it a Raw/Smackdown thing that's done once a year.
To be honest, Ryback was the cooldown match between two hot matches, that makes sense, can't fault them at all.
Except everyone in the locker room saw the writing on the wall the moment Royal Rumble ended though. Punk loses the belt to Rock and Cena won the Royal Rumble. Everyone in the locker room, in the crowd, on the internet, etc, knew that we were headed for Cena/Rock 2 and nobody believed that Rock was going to leave WM29 with the belt since he was a part time wrestler.
Everyone basically knew that Punk was effectively handing the belt back to Cena and the whole "Rock ended a year+ long title reign" was just extra gravy for a Cena rub.
If I remember right I think Vince didn't like having a PPV where he couldn't advertise a full card of matches. Plus he finds wrestling matches boring without storylines, which is what KOTR is.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Did wonders for Sheamus
If they knew Taker was going to win would Rock-Undertaker have been a bad match to book?
The whole point of the Mania 28 and 29 was to make Cena look stronger and to get him over more.
That last sentence is for us nerd-ass fans talking about wrestling on the internet to care about.
The rest? You're being given an opportunity to headline two PPVs with The Rock. Not Hulk Hogan at 60 years old, Rocky in the midst of being a top 3 biggest earning actor in the world for the second year running. A wrestling legend and current megastar. Anyone on the WWE roster should kill to have the opportunity that Punk had.
Honestly you save that match for the Divas.
Or you just say fuck it and put the son you wish you had over
slightconfuse
Banned
Team No Personality was big at King of Trios
Right, sure it does.
How does Punk, a full time wrestler who's held the belt for over a year, losing to a guy who's only wrestled 2 matches in the last 7 years not damage the credibility of the champion plus the rest of the roster? I'm a huge fucking mark for The Rock, and I still think having a 400+ day long champion pass the belt off to a guy who's only wrestled twice in after a 7 year long break (with a nearly year long break since his last match) is a horrible wrestling idea.
Paracelsus
Member
When was the last time WWE pushed a believable super heavyweight monster heel? By that I mean someone able to press slam/lift high above the ground a ~300lbs man like nothing
Sheamus and Cesaro don't count, they were never marketed as such.
Sheamus and Cesaro don't count, they were never marketed as such.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
I can't believe some of you are butthurt at Rock winning the belt off Punk. Rock drives buys, brings in a ton of money. Come on, jesus fuck, I know you all have little microboners over CM Punk but for christ's sake, the Rock is money.
Vince McMahon
Member
(Today, 01:00 PM)
Talking money over good wrestling.
Should I also bring up how Rock was more blown up than fucking Batista during each of his return matches?
blackaroni
Member
People complained about The Rock not mentioning WWE in one of his interviews and the current champ isn't even doing interviews.
Mabel? Billy Gunn?
The Rock could drive up buys by just having a grudge match or something. He didn't need to be in a title picture. And my monolithic erection has nothing to do with it.
If you're going to bitch about Cena being the only one with ambition and drive, then why even bother watching? Tyson got pushed. FACT. Tyson did well. FACT. Tyson got pushed more. FACT. Not everyone is a top guy. It's stupid to think that every person HAS to be a top level guy. You can't have that. You need mid carders. You NEED career mid carders. That's a very important position. So I don't even know what you are bitching about. He's in the spot he was hired to be in. Tyson Kidd is never headlining Wrestlemania. What he can be good at is a solid US/IC level contender and someone who can make guys look good when they need someone to look good. That's a good role. That's an important role.
They need MORE of those people, not trying to make everyone either a top guy or a total goober. And sometimes, that good mid card guy does a really good job and catches and becomes something special. Like Bret Hart. Like Steve Austin. Like Daniel Bryan.
BFIB
Member
I understand the reason behind it, but it still doesn't sit well with me. Your either behind the guy that's held the title for 400 plus days and deserves to headline WM, or your not.
Well, clearly they're not. Which again, putting Rock over Punk doesn't give Punk any credibility. Yes, he held the title for 400 plus days, but a victory over The Rock (even if you have him lose it at EC), would have built his status even higher.
Paracelsus
Member
Punk gave you the answer: all he wanted was be in the main event, even for five minutes. He didn't get that, he didn't get the belt back, he got some dumb win against a midcarder who only comes back to job.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Shame he wasn't good enough to turn his hard work into a main event.
If you're going to have Punk drop the belt give it to someone who could use the rub of dethroning a champ who's held the belt that long. Rock didn't need that rub, because as everyone already pointed out he's The fucking Rock.
Rock with the belt on a WWE PPV isn't going to make a difference in buys as Rock w/out the belt in a WWE PPV would.
Rock with the belt on a WWE PPV isn't going to make a difference in buys as Rock w/out the belt in a WWE PPV would.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
He hates discussions about that mouthbreather CM Punk. This thread is too marky for him right now.
And I quote, "lol, you guys just won't let it go, will you?"
blackaroni
Member
UrbanDandy
Member
For once, I agree with strobogo
blackaroni
Member
Who could they have given it to then? Cena? You would just complain more, right? Why not say that it took someone like The fucking Rock to end that streak? Sounds better than Cena or some other random ass wrestler.
Fact
And look at the rest of those winners.
Billy Gunn had more to do with the roster that year. And even if it doesn't work out it can fucking help boost someone.
Then again that 2008 KOTR shows how fucking stupid they are
British Monsoon
Member
People can't be happy with their favourite wrestlers being stuck in the mid-card because the mid-card is treated like trash and the belts are fucking worthless.
You did? I must've missed it amidst all this podcast debacle (with added 'Cesaro is a failure' arguments).
Yeah, that's a goddamn powerbomb. Reggie was always at her best when throwing fools around the ring.
You did? I must've missed it amidst all this podcast debacle (with added 'Cesaro is a failure' arguments).
Today I watched Reggie Bennett commit the act of murder
Yeah, that's a goddamn powerbomb. Reggie was always at her best when throwing fools around the ring.
Paracelsus
Member
The problem wasn't Rock taking the belt, again the problem was taking the belt to put over Cena AND Cena not dropping the belt back to Punk to carry on that long feud that never got properly solved. Punk got buried twice in two days despite giving both Rock and Cena their best matches in 3 years (actually Rock since WMXIX, Cena since MITB2011).
D-Bry could have taken it off of him. Bryan was already pretty over as fuck even as a heel at that point. If Ryback's initial push wasn't fucked up, Royal Rumble would have been a decent place to actually have him go after Punk. At least Cena was a full time wrestler.
Shit, I would have been more okay with Brock taking the belt off of Punk than Rock. At least Brock during his time away from WWE was still fighting people.
British Monsoon
Member
Bah gawd, Honma's vowed to destroy the Bullet Club for what they did to Yoshitatsu. He said; "I will never forgive Bullet Club. I don't like you!" and says he wants revenge against Jarrett.
Man, you just know Honma's going to go for a kokeshi and get a guitar to the face.
Man, you just know Honma's going to go for a kokeshi and get a guitar to the face.
I found this to be telling. And you could tell it pissed Austin off.
short term. Punk would have helped in keeping long term viewership. As would Bryan or any other "indie darling" as you guys call them.
Scumbag Honma always trying to profit off others tragedies
I'm more so talking about the fact that Khali and Hornswoggle were involved.