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John Cena @JohnCena · 44m 44 minutes ago

The #StoneColdPodcast w/ @VinceMcMahon was legit. Agree with @steveaustinBSR that it's time 2 step up, WWE. #WWENetwork

Good luck with that fuckers!

Cena's such a troll. He's like the ringmaster of Vince's circus, dangling a brass ring up above a group of midget clowns and saying, "you can be just like me if you can grab this". Then he holds it just out of reach while they leap up like idiots. They fall down and make fools of themselves. He offers them reassurance and says, "You can grab this ring, too. See I'm grabbing it right now."

Then one of the midget clowns - one with a big 'ole beard - latches onto the ring, smiles and looks all proud of himself. Cena pats his head and then drops a piano on him. "You weren't supposed to let go of the ring! Awww, too bad."

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Wouldn't have found them without your hot tip, friend.

lmao Sunny won

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Reposting this post for the morning crowd.

Can you top our previous work?

 

[Aiii]

That's part of the whole risk deal. Vince will forgive some. Punk was a jerk and he never fired him. Flabby jumped ship.

If you don't want people to be pissed off at you, then don't piss anyone off.

In any real world scenario, if you attain success, you will piss others off. The road to fortune and glory is built on the bodies of others. People and their feelings HAVE to be sacrificed to get ahead. Those that can work with people, even pissed, are the ones who have what it takes.

Yeah, they're not talking about pissing of others, they're talking about pissing off Vince, Triple H, Kevin Dunn, people in creative.

You know, those same people that will then put you on the pre-show and have you lose to Los Matadores in 2 minutes with a roll-up to make sure you never ever try anything like that again, those people.

If getting over in WWE was as easy as grabbing the brass ring, last January they wouldn't have been planning Batista vs. Randy Orton as the Mania main event, all up until they literally had no other choice because the crowds were damn near rioting for Bryan to get a push. And I'm 100% certain it would have been a token 2-month run and back to the midcard for Bryan after that.

Bryan had two fucking hands on that brass ring and they were still not intending to push him, fuck whatever Vince McMahon claims, he's lying his ass off.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Re-signed or resigned?

Re-signed. He's sticking around because WWE doesn't want him, he doesn't like ROH (or at least doesn't like how they don't want to pay him everything), and if he goes to Japan he probably ends up like Misawa

Angel confirmed to have a shitty, uneventful end to his career that no one will care about. Hopefully he's still well enough that he can go back on his word and get a real retirement match after whatever the hell he signed is done with.

It's at least a year, which means at least one more injury. WWE was worried about his health when they let him go, and that was when he was healthy compared to now. He's never passing a physical to do a match in WWE again.

 

[RP912]

Smh these damn carnies are fighting to the death to not make me cancel out of my commitment. Pulling every trick in the book.

 

[jmdajr]

Vince must have wanted to fire Shawn everyday back then but he fucking couldn't. Now it's a whole new ball game. You have to convince Vince 100% that you can be close to Cena level if he is going to put up with your bullshit. He put up with Punk's crap so I am sure there will be others too. That list is gonna be fucking short but that's the risk if you want to make it to the top. Otherwise midcard or comedy sideshow for life.

 

[Gonzalez]

I'm watching Jingle All The Way 2

Next year I'd like to see a wwe version of Christmas Vacation, Dusty Rhodes to play Clark Griswald.

Do Arnold, Big Show, Sinbad, or Little Annie make cameos? Are there references to Turboman? Are there any one-liners equally as good as "Put the cookie down"?

Goddammit this might be the most interesting project by the WWE in years that I'm excited for.

 

[bjork]

Maybe it was Cena's way of saying "I'm fucking tired and I want a day off, someone release me from this endless torture, even *I* hate hearing my dumbass theme song. You only hear it once a week, sometimes twice. I hear it every day!"

 

[Aiii]

Vince must have wanted to fire Shawn everyday back then but he fucking couldn't. Now it's a whole new ball game. You have to convince Vince 100% that you can be close to Cena level if he is going to put up with your bullshit. He put up with Punk's crap so I am sure there will be others too. That list is gonna be fucking short but that's the risk if you want to make it to the top. Otherwise midcard or comedy sideshow for life.

Punk never got a shot at Cena's spot either.

 

[UberTag]

Punk never got a shot at Cena's spot either.

Reigns will. It's funny how we know this to be true even though he hasn't done anything yet.

 

[Singularity42]

Grab that brass ring, but don't tug on super Cena's cape.

 

[Data West]

You know if that tweet went out and the roster had the 80s/90s mentality, somebody would get released today because they'd probably punch Cena in the fucking face.

But they don't have that mentality, and that's why no one is getting pushed. Everyone is scared of their overlords.

 

[Man God]

Vince must have wanted to fire Shawn everyday back then but he fucking couldn't. Now it's a whole new ball game. You have to convince Vince 100% that you can be close to Cena level if he is going to put up with your bullshit. He put up with Punk's crap so I am sure there will be others too. That list is gonna be fucking short but that's the risk if you want to make it to the top. Otherwise midcard or comedy sideshow for life.

Hell no, he loved Shawn's attitude and would seemingly go along with most of what that coke addled idiot proposed.

 

[jmdajr]

Yeah, they're not talking about pissing of others, they're talking about pissing off Vince, Triple H, Kevin Dunn, people in creative.

You know, those same people that will then put you on the pre-show and have you lose to Los Matadores in 2 minutes with a roll-up to make sure you never ever try anything like that again, those people.

If getting over in WWE was as easy as grabbing the brass ring, last January they wouldn't have been planning Batista vs. Randy Orton as the Mania main event, all up until they literally had no other choice because the crowds were damn near rioting for Bryan to get a push. And I'm 100% certain it would have been a token 2-month run and back to the midcard for Bryan after that.

Bryan had two fucking hands on that brass ring and they were still not intending to push him, fuck whatever Vince McMahon claims, he's lying his ass off.

You think Vince is lying when he thinks Cesaro sucks? I have no doubt he believes it.

Plus look at this fucker...

look at him

 

[Recall]

Punk had the balls to stand up for what he felt was right, wether it was or wasn't. I respect that far more than people just willing to have their careers neutered and be really a waste of their time.

Punk has shown more brass than anyone else and I don't see anyone else standing up for themselves in any capacity. But hey as a community we never know the facts only the bullshit lies we get fed, so whatever I guess.

 

[Ithil]

If you don't want people to be pissed off at you, then don't piss anyone off.

In any real world scenario, if you attain success, you will piss others off. The road to fortune and glory is built on the bodies of others. People and their feelings HAVE to be sacrificed to get ahead. Those that can work with people, even pissed, are the ones who have what it takes.

Vince said to Austin "no one has any ambition or drive", Austin said people backstage are all scared and on eggshells now because if they try to stand out they piss people off and get buried instead, and Vince's response wasn't "don't be afraid of pissing people off" it was "don't piss people off, then".
Like, how are they supposed to "step up" and grab the brass ring if talking out of turn gets them buried? And then they get blamed for the backstage environment WWE have fostered.

People have repeatedly attempted to grab the brass ring, and had it yanked out of their hands. Which somehow is their fault?

 

[jmdajr]

Punk never got a shot at Cena's spot either.

So. Who does? He's lucky he even got to that point.

 

[Aiii]

You know if that tweet went out and the roster had the 80s/90s mentality, somebody would get released today because they'd probably punch Cena in the fucking face.

But they don't have that mentality, and that's why no one is getting pushed. Everyone is scared of their overlords.

In the 80s and 90s when you punched someone in the face you wouldn't get fired because you'd just go to WCW, or any of the territories and make just as much money and get just as much exposure.

So. Who does? He's lucky he even got to that point.

Nobody, there is no brass ring, there is no ladder, it's all imaginary.

 

[Recall]

So. Who does? He's lucky he even got to that point.

Money in the Bank 2011 showed he put in the effort to get there, was it really luck or hard work?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

You're a master of fucking up context, Ithil.

 

[jmdajr]

Money in the Bank 2011 showed he put in the effort to get there, was it really luck or hard work?

A little of both. He's lucky Cena agreed to drop it.

 

[Recall]

People have repeatedly attempted to grab the brass ring, and had it yanked out of their hands. Which somehow is their fault?

Exactly.

 

[blackaroni]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

 

[Data West]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

Professional wrestling since the beginning of time.

 

[jmdajr]

Nobody, there is no brass ring, there is no ladder, it's all imaginary.

The Bank account isn't imaginary. He got paid. Now he can watch Hockey all day and not sign fan autographs.

 

[British Monsoon]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

But not enough of an asshole that you piss anyone off who has the slightest bit of sway, booking decision-wise.

 

[UberTag]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

Be an asshole.
Fuck the boss's daughter (provided that she's not underage).
Be a roided-up, muscle-bound freak who has "the look".

I see three options.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

If you want success, you'll piss people off. Yes.

You know how many people hate Cena?

 

[jmdajr]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

100% with very few exceptions. Daniel Bryan being one of them. The fans took him places he didn't even give a fuck about.

 

[Aiii]

The Bank account isn't imaginary. He got paid. Now he can watch Hockey all day and not sign fan autographs.

Only millennials care only about money and not about being the best you can be.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

100% with very few exceptions. Daniel Bryan being one of them.

He pissed off Punk. Poked his surgery eyes, took his main event.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I'm starting to smell a work in Vince's podcast comments now. Maybe a work/shoot.. work.

Not the Punk stuff though.

 

[jmdajr]

Be an asshole.
Fuck the boss's daughter (provided that she's not underage).
Be a roided-up, muscle-bound freak who has "the look".

I see three options.

The best can do it all.

 

[Gonzalez]

Capitalism since the beginning of time.

Fixed

 

[Recall]

100% with very few exceptions. Daniel Bryan being one of them.

Yet WWE took away his chant and made a generic thing everyone can do to get over. Daniel Bryan made something work and the response was simply, no, you can't get over unless we say so.

 

[Data West]

Ricky Steamboat vs Vader on Worldwide

Why would you give this away on Worldwide?!

 

[jmdajr]

He pissed off Punk. Poked his surgery eyes, took his main event.

lol! where is that picture again?

 

[UberTag]

The best can do it all.

Gotta hand it to Triple H. He's got one hell of a resume.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Vince said to Austin "no one has any ambition or drive", Austin said people backstage are all scared and on eggshells now because if they try to stand out they piss people off and get buried instead, and Vince's response wasn't "don't be afraid of pissing people off" it was "don't piss people off, then".
Like, how are they supposed to "step up" and grab the brass ring if talking out of turn gets them buried? And then they get blamed for the backstage environment WWE have fostered.

People have repeatedly attempted to grab the brass ring, and had it yanked out of their hands. Which somehow is their fault?

You spend your whole life working to grab something you know is imaginary, you celebrate when you finally grab it, once again someone tells you it's imaginary, and then you look at your hand and see

 

[Man God]

The best can do it all.

Test?

 

[Gonzalez]

100% with very few exceptions. Daniel Bryan being one of them. The fans took him places he didn't even give a fuck about.

I've heard stories about Bryan being a bit of a sarcastic prick backstage, though.

 

[jmdajr]

Yet WWE took away his chant and made a generic thing everyone can do to get over. Daniel Bryan made something work and the response was simply, no, you can't get over unless we say so.

Did Bryan stand up for himself? Did he complain to Vince? No. Probably not. The fans had to practically carry him there.

I'm curious to see what other revolt there will be on the road to Wrestlemania.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Ricky Steamboat vs Vader on Worldwide

Why would you give this away on Worldwide?!

Where are you watching these friend Data?

 

[jmdajr]

Test?

Test got to eat Stacey's ass, so the dude didn't have bad at all.

Maybe he rest in peace.

 

[Fox318]

John Cena @JohnCena · 44m 44 minutes ago

The #StoneColdPodcast w/ @VinceMcMahon was legit. Agree with @steveaustinBSR that it's time 2 step up, WWE. #WWENetwork

Good luck with that fuckers!

This is amazing.

He is literally been the cause of the sport/product getting less and less popular during his employment.

Forget about the Angles and forget about what happened to guys like Eddie.

Hogan's Contract, Nash having control of WCW, and Cena pushing the product away from adults to appease his bosses wife's politcial aspirations.

JR was talking about Survor Series and he was saying that it would have been a good time to turn Cena heel there and have sting come out as the savior then.

They can't do that. The fucking company's profit is built off of selling Cena's Hurricane ripoff shirts because Vince's men couldn't get a TV deal in place because they looked at Cena's audience noticed that they have no buying power.

 

[Heel]

Honestly, how many of these wrestlers are ever showing a marked improvement in what they do in the ring or on the mic? You have to strive to be better and I'm not seeing it when it matters.

 

[RP912]

So the only way to grab the brass rings is to be an asshole?

and no sell your ass off...

 

[Recall]

Did Bryan stand up for himself? Did he complain to Vince? No. Probably not. The fans had to practically carry him there.

I'm curious to see what other revolt there will be on the road to Wrestlemania.

He should have stood up for himself but even by his own admission (Jericho podcast I think) he simply is too laid back to care. He does as he is told and puts in all his effort but doesn't get wound up by the shit that happens.


I wonder how many Reigns vs Cena matches we will be getting in 2015?

 

[Aiii]

I'm curious to see what other revolt there will be on the road to Wrestlemania.

Honestly, I'm not sure there will be anything like that this year. Crowds seem to have pretty much given up over the past 6 months and I don't really see who they would hitch their wagon on at any rate.

Besides, Brock is champion, we like Brock. We'll get some Sting and some Hogan so that'll be fine. Maybe we'll get a bit of Taker. Reigns is sort of over, so that won't cause any ill response. All in all it will be pretty uneventful road to Mania compared to 30.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Honestly, how many of these wrestlers are ever showing a marked improvement in what they do in the ring or on the mic? You have to strive to be better and I'm not seeing it when it matters.

Lemme tell you who is improving when it does and when it doesn't matter: