Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I missed it because it wasn't there that run.
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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls |OT2| Enchantress: Look! More hidden loot!
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Shuggananas
Banned
It's always there but believe what you will
damn, I should do Torment 8 now for a guaranteed Death's Breath drop.
Normal 15%
Hard 18%
Expert 21%
Master 25%
Torment 1 31%
Torment 2 37%
Torment 3 44%
Torment 4 53%
Torment 5 64%
Torment 6 77%
Torment 7 90%
Torment 8 100%, 5% chance of a 2nd DB.
Torment 9 100%, 15% chance of a 2nd DB.
Torment 10 100%, 25% chance of a 2nd DB.
Also, is it possible to use Uliana's (6) + Sage's set (3)?
Normal 15%
Hard 18%
Expert 21%
Master 25%
Torment 1 31%
Torment 2 37%
Torment 3 44%
Torment 4 53%
Torment 5 64%
Torment 6 77%
Torment 7 90%
Torment 8 100%, 5% chance of a 2nd DB.
Torment 9 100%, 15% chance of a 2nd DB.
Torment 10 100%, 25% chance of a 2nd DB.
Also, is it possible to use Uliana's (6) + Sage's set (3)?
Shuggananas
Banned
Nope, sage's set has awful slots :/ Probably better used with a shenlong build if you want to farm death's breaths
Pyros_Eien
Member
Yeah sage slots are really annoying. I used a Sage build on my WD today for a bit to farm DB on T8, I'm not sure it's particularily worth it mostly cause the build is really meh with the sage slot. As a WD you can't use Arachyr or Helltooth 6pc at all, so you have to use Zunimasa which means you need to go Carnevil since pet zuni is pretty garbage. Problem is you need to use the ring so no F+R and you also can't use Mask of Jeram/Carnevil at the same time cause you need either boots/gloves/helm for 6pc zuni and you need 2 of these for Sage too. So overall, it's a really bad Carnevil build, it does T8 at a decent pace but not great. T7 is relatively fast but you can still get no DB.
So overall, it's faster for DB than doing T10 with Helltooth, but you lose quite a lot of xp and legendary chance for it. Seems good if you really want to dump DBs into upgrading stuff over everything, which was the case for me, I really needed a weapon.
Which leads me to my question, thought on what to reroll on a Furnace that has Int/Vit/Attackspeed? I'm thinking Attack speed into damage since it'll give more damage overall, but I could roll the vit, however it feels like it might not be worth it considering it's like 1300vit which is a huge chunk of hp, good for high GRs and the 5%attackspeed(shit roll) is probably not worth it. I'm correct right? Oh and I'll gift a socket so that's not a concern.
So overall, it's faster for DB than doing T10 with Helltooth, but you lose quite a lot of xp and legendary chance for it. Seems good if you really want to dump DBs into upgrading stuff over everything, which was the case for me, I really needed a weapon.
Which leads me to my question, thought on what to reroll on a Furnace that has Int/Vit/Attackspeed? I'm thinking Attack speed into damage since it'll give more damage overall, but I could roll the vit, however it feels like it might not be worth it considering it's like 1300vit which is a huge chunk of hp, good for high GRs and the 5%attackspeed(shit roll) is probably not worth it. I'm correct right? Oh and I'll gift a socket so that's not a concern.
Shuggananas
Banned
Couldn't you do 2pc arachyr + 2pc helltooth + 3pc sage ?
You should get decent DPS to be able to farm DB
For uliana's monk only the 6pc is really valuable sadly, so you don't even have a middle ground option :/
Attack speed generally sucks on weapons imo
for monk basically do this
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/57396-quin69-gr69-generator-build
but replace helm/boots/gloves with sage
you'll need to fit in another raiment set item, probably chest armor
Losses are not huge (cindercoat, leoric's, magefist) so you can still easily farm T8 or even T10 with really good gear (I like te 25% chance for an extra DB)
Pyros_Eien
Member
You can do 2pc+2pc, but it's really not that good compared to a 6pc bonus. I guess with F+R and a good weapon it might be better, I'd need to try now that I have an ancient weapon, but I don't know about doing T8 with it decently.
Switching between stuff though makes me wish we could save skill/passive/gear setups. It's a pain in the ass redoing all my skills, always forget something like the cubes or the passives.
Switching between stuff though makes me wish we could save skill/passive/gear setups. It's a pain in the ass redoing all my skills, always forget something like the cubes or the passives.
It's something the game could really use. I always end up leveling multiple of the same class on seasons cause as far as I am concerned it takes less time to get power leveled to 70 than it does constantly swapping entire build/gear (and now cube) sets over the course of a few months. This is really holding true for me right now since I am spending more time doing bounties than I have in the past and I use a completely different build for that.
NaDannMaGoGo
Member
What's the source of those values? Having run a lot of T10 I'm more inclined to believe that the additional chance would be rather 75%+.
Shuggananas
Banned
Diablo wiki, theres no official values just testing i think
To me it's more like 50% lol, but havent farmed it alot
To me it's more like 50% lol, but havent farmed it alot
Pyros_Eien
Member
That's actually a pretty good idea, didn't think of that. Then again I think it'd be faster for me to roll a monk and dump bloodshards until I can do a generator build for farming DBs, but not sure I care enough. Luckily bounties isn't an issue, all I do is replace piranhado with hex chicken and equip majuma and I'm ready.
Pyros_Eien
Member
It's not that long in a good group, and even in pubs it goes pretty fast. Can generally do 2runs an hour in pubs, 3 in a good group(sadly only like 1.5 if solo), 8 mats per run, you need 100 for the season journey, that's 6hours and a half of bounties in pubs, spread out over a period of time since you only need 100 for the last step anyway. Meanwhile getting the gear to do GR60 solo takes like 10-15times that, maybe even more.
But yeah, bounties are zzz.
Lé Blade Runner
Member
I skipped Season 3, but thanks to all the changes ( no more GR trials! ), and the fact that I made my first ever WD, I am having a blast!
Paragon Level 203 and full Helltooth set. Now I need that Ancient weapon.
Paragon Level 203 and full Helltooth set. Now I need that Ancient weapon.
This ring O_O
I happened to have two sets with 2 of 3 required pieces equipped.
It's always fun seeing people who are fairly new to the game find out about all the cool stuff that's in the game
.FYI ever since patch 2.3, people have been cubing this item to get the -1 set requirement as a passive. That's because the ring itself is actually kinda bad since it always rolls attack speed (not so great). People would rather use an actual good ring and just get the bonus via Kanai's cube.
Lanrutcon
Member
This ring O_O
I happened to have two sets with 2 of 3 required pieces equipped.
Cube that shit, my son.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Have pretty much everything now but a decent hellfire amulet. And a furnace to cube. Besides min-maxing stuff however slightly. But that was pretty fucking fast. Only other thing I really would need is a second unity to push higher grifts solo.
I fucked up and rerolled the life per fury on my weapon instead of the vit though. Pretty much perfect weapon too :/ Shouldn't have been so hasty.
I fucked up and rerolled the life per fury on my weapon instead of the vit though. Pretty much perfect weapon too :/ Shouldn't have been so hasty.
Can do in group
Lanrutcon
Member
Oh. That's very doable. We already have at least 2 overpowered Barbs and 1 OP Witchdoctor in the clan. We should organise.
Shuggananas
Banned
Yeah they're too expensive
Should have put death's breath in reasonable quantities instead of bounty mats
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
You speak as though I just have resources laying around. I've been using a lot just trying to get a socket in my helm.
Anyways, I just got this...
I'm not sure it was even 10 seconds. Maybe it's time to go to Torment 2?
Shuggananas
Banned
I suggest sticking to T1 until you get a really strong set which would allow you to hit T6 directly
Better faceroll T1 than struggle a bit in T2
Better faceroll T1 than struggle a bit in T2
Where'd you see that? Because feels like:
Torment 8 – 100%, 25% chance of a 2nd DB.
Torment 9 – 100%, 50% chance of a 2nd DB.
Torment 10 – 100%, 75% chance of a 2nd DB.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Well im done.
The lag with HT WD is just too much and makes grouping unplayable. If only they gave solo play as much love as group, it wouldn't be so bad.
The lag with HT WD is just too much and makes grouping unplayable. If only they gave solo play as much love as group, it wouldn't be so bad.
Shuggananas
Banned
you sure they didn't fix it ?
Playing with a friend WD and he has HT + grim reaper and in geom so he spams it like crazy and I have no issues
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Nope still a big issue in high grifts mostly.
Good rule of thumb is that when difficulty level becomes fast/easy to farm [bounties and/or rifts] crank it up by one and gear up more until hitting sweetspot difficulty, which currently seems to be Torment 7.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Can't really use the cube for most of the stuff until 61 anyway since you need Death Breath for the good stuff, so not really. Now that you're 70 however, you want to unlock it asap, so you can start cubing various legendary affixes and upgrade rare weapons to legendary to find the ones you want(2H mace to furnace tends to be common since it's both a great cube and a great weapon to have, but depending on your class other stuff might be better first).
PuppetSlave
Member
Short answer is yes. But it also depends on what gear you have found so far. But (almost) anything is better then nothing. Remember that items that go into the cube doesn't have to be level 70 items. I found an rorg when leveling and threw that one into the cube, works like a charm.
JSoup
Banned
It's always fun seeing people who are fairly new to the game find out about all the cool stuff that's in the game
It even happens with people aren't exactly new, but don't play often past finishing a season character, like myself.
Like, I found a Nagelring at level 23. That thing is so over powered, that I was able (as witch doctor) to throw my game to T1 and coasted through all way to 70.
Man I had such a crazy night on my monk last night. Cubed a flow of eternity, followed immediately by a lions claw, then walked over to kadala and rolled spirit guards. Played around for a bit, then rolled focus from kadala, then bought one belt and got the SSS belt.
Jumped 15 gr levels at least, haven't tried higher yet, and can really focus on trying to get a better weapon now.
Jumped 15 gr levels at least, haven't tried higher yet, and can really focus on trying to get a better weapon now.
Shuggananas
Banned
Cool condensed info
note : 2x33% means 1 + 33% chance to have 2, so technically 133%
note : 2x33% means 1 + 33% chance to have 2, so technically 133%
Cool condensed info
note : 2x33% means 1 + 33% chance to have 2, so technically 133%
The breath numbers still feel wrong to me. I'm pretty sure I've gotten double breaths even down on t7 before, though probably at like 5%
Pyros_Eien
Member
The conquest is just a GR60, group or otherwise, but the last step of the season journey requires a solo clear of a GR60. Like after the chapters you can see the season journey follows the same pattern, you need more kanai cube powers, ubers stuff then conquest stuff(1 2 3 conquests), clearing normal rifts on increasing torment difficulty with lower time ending at T10 in under 2minutes(which is also a conquest so that doubles up), upgrading legendary gems and doing GRs solo.
Do note that the cube part is kinda buggy atm and you need varying amounts of cubed powers to actually unlock it, not sure if it's going to be an issue for the completion of the journey or not.
Ricerocket
Member
Just got this. It really sucks to have something like this and no gift to use on it.
Shuggananas
Banned
Just got this. It really sucks to have something like this and no gift to use on it.
trash RCR roll
jk, gj. Roll damage for socket and later get a 10% + ramaladni ? don't know what's the best between rerolling damage range for higher roll or %damage in your case, probably damage range
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
It got to half a million per enchant attempt so I decided just to build a new helm and I got the socket I wanted.
I also have Lion's Claws and Shenlong's Fist of Legend and Sunwuko's Paws so... yay for presently-useless first parts of sets? Oh, and I'm wearing Blackthorne's Surcoat.
Fair enough trade. I think I'll trade the armor for dexterity or a percentage increase on exploding palm or tempest rush. Health/regen stuff is dumb at this point because I can pretty much stand in death forever without a scratch AND have a hold break/invulnerability/free movement/heal skill if I get trapped AND have a get out of death free every 60 seconds passive.
I also have Lion's Claws and Shenlong's Fist of Legend and Sunwuko's Paws so... yay for presently-useless first parts of sets? Oh, and I'm wearing Blackthorne's Surcoat.
why
Cool condensed info
note : 2x33% means 1 + 33% chance to have 2, so technically 133%
Oops, I had heard T3 was needed for 3 and had been repeating that. Sorry for the wrong info folks.
Nice! I've had hilariously bad luck this season in some ways. Finally got a second Uliana's item last night. I did get a madstone on my first cube upgrade though.
Eh, maybe it's just confirmation bias and I only pay attention when I get double, but it feels like the chance is higher. I'll actually track it and see what I get.
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