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[bitbydeath]

These four trailers have the Sony Studios logo at the beginning.



BluePoint
Although Sony Japan is also collaborating on this title so it may have been a reference for them.



Lucid Games
Although collaborating with XDev.



HouseMarque
No collaboration mentioned.



Sumo Digital
No collaboration mentioned.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Definitely!

 

[Punished Miku]

I noticed that as well on the Housemarque intro. I think you're right.

Housemarque just a couple years ago was talking about being done with shooters after Nex Machina, so I'm not sure what's going on with them now.

 

[whitesugar]

i think they are just funding them, as i don't see why you would subtly reveal something like that. Especially for Bluepoint and Housemarque, they would deserve proper announcements

 

[Eliciel]

Definitely!

I think they kind of teased Remedy, by having that Remedy guy in the Mosaic Developer Feedback in the Video.
Remedy might be part of Sony Family now..

 

[MasterCornholio]

I wouldn't be surprised if they bought the studios that you've mentioned. It could be an announcement for later on in the year. They wouldn't fit badly in Sonys family though.

 

[chessy_08]

they all say playstation studios at the beginning

 

[MasterCornholio]

I think they kind of teased Remedy, by having that Remedy guy in the Mosaic Developer Feedback in the Video.
Remedy might be part of Sony Family now..

Wasn't there a rumor about Sony looking to buy Remedy?

 

[bitbydeath]

i think they are just funding them, as i don't see why you would subtly reveal something like that. Especially for Bluepoint and Housemarque, they would deserve proper announcements

Other 3rd party exclusives shown didn't state they were part of Sony studios.

 

[MasterCornholio]

they all say playstation studios at the beginning

All the games? I don't think I saw the logo at the beginning of each one.

Edit: Just look at some of the trailers like Progmata and Hitman 3 and they don't have the PlayStation Studios logo in the beginning.

 

[Abriael_GN]

It's called 2nd party. Same as Quantic Dream's games until the split or The Order 1886.

IE: PlayStation Studios is the publisher. It doesn't mean they have bought the studios.

 

[yurinka]

These three trailers have the Sony Studios logo at the beginning.

BluePoint
Although Sony Japan is also collaborating on this title so it may have been a reference for them.

Lucid Games
No collaboration mentioned.

HouseMarque
No collaboration mentioned.

I'd love to see them buying BluePoint and Housemarque, but they always put the Sony logo at the beginning in their 2nd party games (That Game Company, RaD, Quantic Dream, etc). It just mean that these are games published by Sony.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I think a big splash move buying a studio would definitely get gamers hyped about Sony's first party software. They need to make their selling point being the first party games because Microsoft has the power advantage.

 

[sublimit]

I think depending on how Demon's Souls and Returnal perform Sony might finally acquire Blue Point and Housemarque since they have a long history of exclusive collaborations with both studios.

 

[bitbydeath]

It's called 2nd party. Same as Quantic Dream's games until the split or The Order 1886.

IE: PlayStation Studios is the publisher. It doesn't mean they have bought the studios.

Sony looks to be calling them first party studios on the blog unless that has undergone a new meaning.

With nine titles announced tonight, this is the largest lineup of first-party games PlayStation has ever showcased heading into a new platform launch.

Worldwide Studios: First look at 9 new PS5 games

First details coming out of today’s PlayStation 5 event

blog.playstation.com

Someone looks to be reaching out to them in the comments for clarification.

 

[ethomaz]

Demon's Souls and Sackboy are Sony's IP.

 

[bitbydeath]

Also updated OP. Lucid is working with ExDev and didn't realise Sumo Digital were making Sackboy so have added them to the list.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Sony looks to be calling them first party studios on the blog unless that has undergone a new meaning.

Worldwide Studios: First look at 9 new PS5 games

First details coming out of today’s PlayStation 5 event

blog.playstation.com

Someone looks to be reaching out to them in the comments for clarification.

Sony has always called second-party publishing deals first-party games. Another example is Bloodborne. Sony certainly doesn't own FromSoftware.

And no, nothing in the link you posted calls them first-party studios. There's a massive difference.

 

[CamHostage]

Sony looks to be calling them first party studios on the blog unless that has undergone a new meaning.

Worldwide Studios: First look at 9 new PS5 games

First details coming out of today’s PlayStation 5 event

blog.playstation.com

Someone looks to be reaching out to them in the comments for clarification.

Well, as I understand it, there's technically no such thing as "Second Party" in business; it's either owned or it's a 3rd Party partner. We made up the term to describe videogames the way we understand it, but that's not how businesses use the terms.

All the Ratchet games, all the Sly games, all the Jak games, all the Dark Cloud games, all the Hot Shots games, all those that were made by studios Sony contracted for their publishing (or were made before Sony bought them, depending on the case,) those are still 1st Party but Sony didn't own the studio. (Even Nintendo contracts external studios. Nintendo doesn't even own Pokemon outright or the company GameFreak who makes it, but pretty much nobody calls Pokemon "Second Party".)

 

[bitbydeath]

Sony has always called second-party publishing deals first-party games. Another example is Bloodborne. Sony certainly doesn't own FromSoftware.

And no, nothing in the link you posted calls them first-party studios. There's a massive difference.

When did Sony state Bloodborne as first party? Do you have a link?

 

[Abriael_GN]

When did Sony state Bloodborne as first party? Do you have a link?

I'm not going to go look into 5 years old stuff to disprove a ludicrous theory. This is common all knowledge in the industry. Sony has never defined bloodborne anything else than a first-party game. The same goes for QD's games, or The Order 1886.

 

[Woodchipper]

IE: PlayStation Studios is the publisher. It doesn't mean they have bought the studios.

No. PlayStation Studios is Sony World Wide Studios. Sony Interactive Entertainment is a publisher.

 

[Abriael_GN]

No. PlayStation Studios is the renamed Sony World Wide Studios. Sony Interactive Entertainment is a publisher.

You're simply wrong. PlayStation Studios is also SIE's publishing label.



"Introducing PlayStation Studios, the new brand name for all of your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. "

 

[THEAP99]

These three trailers have the Sony Studios logo at the beginning.



BluePoint
Although Sony Japan is also collaborating on this title so it may have been a reference for them.



Lucid Games
Although collaborating with XDev.



HouseMarque
No collaboration mentioned.



Sumo Digital
No collaboration mentioned.

No. When they announced the PlayStation Studios rebranding, they said any projects associated with PlayStation would be using it.

 

[bitbydeath]

I'm not going to go look into 5 years old stuff to disprove a ludicrous theory. This is common all knowledge in the industry. Sony has never defined bloodborne anything else than a first-party game. The same goes for QD's games, or The Order 1886.

All I'm seeing from you.

 

[Abriael_GN]

All I'm seeing from you.

Feel free not to. I've been to plenty of presentations on Bloodborne and other Sony-published games. I'm quite familiar with how they're defined.

 

[bitbydeath]

No. When they announced the PlayStation Studios rebranding, they said any projects associated with PlayStation would be using it.

You mean this?

Sony has announced a new PlayStation Studios brand that it'll be using for its first-party exclusives going forward as a way to let customers know that a game comes from one of Sony's in-house development teams.

Sony announces new PlayStation Studios branding for its first-party PS5 games

Uniting all of Sony’s studios under one new logo.

www.theverge.com

 

[Woodchipper]

You're simply wrong. PlayStation Studios is also SIE's publishing label.



"Introducing PlayStation Studios, the new brand name for all of your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. "

Then how come the Horizon trailer begins with the PlayStation Studios logo, and seconds later it says "Sony Interactive Entertainment Presents"?

 

[Abriael_GN]

You mean this?

Sony announces new PlayStation Studios branding for its first-party PS5 games

Uniting all of Sony’s studios under one new logo.

www.theverge.com

The Verge isn't Sony. Considering the level of their reporting, that's worse than bringing up wikipedia.

THis is Sony.



"Introducing PlayStation Studios, the new brand name for all of your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. "

Then how come the Horizon trailer begins with the PlayStation Studios logo, and seconds later it says "Sony Interactive Entertainment Presents"?

Because (rather obviously.) PlayStation Studios is a label they use for ALL the game they publish. That includes those by their own studios as well.

 

[bitbydeath]

The Verge isn't Sony. Considering the level of their reporting, that's worse than bringing up wikipedia.

THis is Sony.



"Introducing PlayStation Studios, the new brand name for all of your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. "

The verge was the first link I found and what you quoted doesn't state it not representing in-house studios.

 

[Abriael_GN]

The verge was the first link I found and what you quoted doesn't state it not representing in-house studios.

It states it represents "your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. " not "the games by PlayStation's owned first-party studios."

You may as well just admit that you jumped the gun. By now you should be aware of that.

 

[bitbydeath]

It states it represents "your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. " not "the games by PlayStation's owned first-party studios."

You may as well just admit that you jumped the gun. By now you should be aware of that.

Ahh, no.
I see you clutching at straws and dismissing journalism that doesn't suit your agenda.

 

[Woodchipper]

The Verge isn't Sony. Considering the level of their reporting, that's worse than bringing up wikipedia.

THis is Sony.



"Introducing PlayStation Studios, the new brand name for all of your favorite exclusive PlayStation games. "




Because (rather obviously.) PlayStation Studios is a label they use for ALL the game they publish. That includes those by their own studios as well.

If you're right, Sony is working hard to confuse us all. Why name it PlayStation Studios when they could've stuck with "Only on PlayStation"? They're basically saying that PlayStation Studios doesn't mean PlayStation Studios at all. Why would they do that?

 

[Abriael_GN]

Ahh, no.
I see you clutching at straws and dismissing journalism that doesn't suit your agenda.

"agenda?"

What's next, you're gonna call me "Traitor of America?" lol.

The whole thread you started is you clutching at straws to try to convince people that Sony acquired studios that they'd have announced with the due fanfare if it had any validity.

I gave you simple information from the point of view of someone who works in the industry (and has for 20 years now). If you don't wanna accept it, enjoy your delusion while it lasts.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

It's just a 2nd party studio deal.

Sony is just funding exclusive games by third parties.

 

[hunthunt]

Yeah, surprised about Sumo Digital, they are insanely talented!!! <3

 

[bitbydeath]

"agenda?"

What's next, you're gonna call me "Traitor of America?" lol.

The whole thread you started is you clutching at straws to try to convince people that Sony acquired studios that they'd have announced with the due fanfare if it had any validity.

I gave you simple information from the point of view of someone who works in the industry (and has for 20 years now). If you don't wanna accept it, enjoy your delusion while it lasts.

It's labelled as a rumour and I'm sure Sony will clarify you just need patience.

 

[Abriael_GN]

It's labelled as a rumour and I'm sure Sony will clarify you just need patience.

I don't need any patience. I already know that they have not purchased these studios, and that those are simply second-party publishing deals, as many in this thread have been telling you.

Incidentally, your speculation and a rumor are different things.

If you're right, Sony is working hard to confuse us all. Why name it PlayStation Studios when they could've stuck with "Only on PlayStation"? They're basically saying that PlayStation Studios doesn't mean PlayStation Studios at all. Why would they do that?

It's almost like they haven't been doing this for years.

 

[Woodchipper]

It's almost like they haven't been doing this for years.

They haven't. PlayStation Studios is a new brand, a month or so old.

 

[Eanox]

Possibly bluepoint and housemarque are the next studio to be bought with Bluepoint being most likely.
Sony is still ramping up their studios. We might hear a random news like with insomniac. Bluepoint will be a great addition for them. Hopefully they will be given an opportunity to create a new IP.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

PS would make noise if they had acquired the studios. They are tying the logo to projects where they own the property and have some hand in the actual development.

 

[eastwood333]

Obviously not, or they would have announced at the event

 

[bitbydeath]

It's almost like they haven't been doing this for years.

 

[lmimmfn]

The Sqenix game was what i thought looked amazing.

 

[Eanox]

Obviously not, or they would have announced at the event

Just like insomniac acquisitions.
It's possible that Bluepoint is an in-house studio already. They are just waiting for the right time to announce it possibly same time as MS event. Sony is doing a PR battle.

 

[near]

When did Sony state Bloodborne as first party? Do you have a link?

Sony own the IP. Its a first party title. 'PlayStation Studios' is just branding used on intellectual properties that Sony will have rights to.

 

[bitbydeath]

Sony own the IP. Its a first party title. 'PlayStation Studios' is just branding used on intellectual properties that Sony will have rights to.

Yes but my point was it's never been called that.

Also if you watch the introduction from Herman to the HouseMarque game he states.

Please take a look at this franchise from Worldwide studios.

At the 1:19:53 mark.

 

[near]

Yes but my point was it's never been called that.

Also if you watch the introduction from Herman to the HouseMarque game he states.





At the 1:19:53 mark.

Your nitpicking semantics. This is a quote from Sonys Worldwide Studios website:

We develop and publish a range of exciting new titles each year, created either by our fantastic in-house studios, or in collaboration with independent studios from the wider industry.

PlayStation Studios | PlayStation

PlayStation Studios defined gaming for generations. Our collective of studios and teams span the globe – and together – advance gaming and the positive impact it has on people’s lives.

www.playstation.com

Housemarque could very well end up becoming a first party studio for Sony, but I see nothing here to suggest they already are.

 

[IntentionalPun]

They are a publisher; I wouldn't read too much into it.

Not that it matters, a lot of those studios are basically exclusive. Not much difference to gamers who owns the companies.

 

[Oddspeak]

Alongside games developed by Sony's first-party studios -- such as Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Santa Monica Studio, Media Molecule and Guerrilla Games -- the PlayStation Studios brand will also apply to games made by work-for-hire developers under Sony's direction.

"If our studios are managing the production of these games and working with an external developer, it will still come out under the PlayStation Studios brand," Lempel [senior vice president and head of global marketing at Sony Interactive Entertainment] details. "It doesn't mean that we outright own the developer, but it just means we brought it up as a first-party. In a lot of cases we don't own the developer."

PlayStation Studios brand will launch alongside PS5

Sony has developed a new umbrella brand to unite its first-party PlayStation titles.

www.gamesindustry.biz

That being said, I can see Sony picking up either Bluepoint or Housemarque. They'd both be big gets.