Digital Foundry vs Metro Redux
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Did you see the resolutions for the last gen versions of these games? Weird resolutions were downright common last-gen.
Rock solid 60fps is more important anyways.
Sounds like they did top notch work with Metro Redux overall.
1080p is elitist and pretentious. 792p and 912p on the other hand are tried-and-true working man's resolutions.
Summer Haze
Banned
True that, true that.
Is this animation canned or dynamic?
OdysseusVA
Banned
I understood that reference
It's also present in the PS360 versions so I guess it's canned.
Canned, just like the ones from MGS games.
1152x640 framebuffer on PS3 (1280x672 on 360)
so much for reading the op. this is nothing new
Refreshment.01
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Ran like crap if you turned on some very, very taxing special effects. Chances are those effects are not applied in these console releases.
In PC? Are you sure? because it supported PhysX for GPU accelerated soft materials. AT least in the first Metro.
Ah ok. I'm not trying to take anything away from it. I just would have been doubly impressed if that kind of physics was done on the fly.
And what animations are you referring to in the MGS games?
Portugeezer
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Edit - beaten
I didn't, pls explain
Summer Haze
Banned
So much for reading my comment:
I wasn't talking about last-gen, and I'm well aware of last-gen having funky resolutions. I'm just surprised to see the trend carrying over to this gen with the X1.
Yes i am sure , every time you watch it , the cloth falls down in exactly the same way .
A resolution itself doesn't have to make "sense". They probably just fine-tuned all other performance parameters (ESRAM usage, bandwidth, GPU time, etc.) and chose the highest possible resolution that matches them the best while delivering the target frame rate.
It can hit 1080p. There are a bunch of titles which are 1080, it's just the devs decided they'd rather have the same graphical effects for both PS4 and X1 rather than the same res.
It obviously looks better with great effects at 912p than less great effects at 1080p.
Posts like these are bollox. Ps3 and xbox 360 weren't hitting 720p in 2007. It doesn't mean anything. There's games on the ps4 that aren't 1080p is that also a joke? Or in guessing that's the devs fault. Comments like these are what will stop graphical effects being pushed by devs when they read it because they will think gamers just want native resolution.
Ill take 60fps all day. Resolution is the first thing to tweak in my opinion
Not works exactly in this way. The problem of the native 1080p it's not just some fancy effects at lower res. I though was pretty clear from awhile. EsRam it's the big problem.
I was under the impression that resolution scaling works better in absolute steps, hence the comment. Doesnt 720P with a superior AA solution > weirdo resolutions?
There are plenty of 720p games on both consoles in 2007, including games like Uncharted. You aren't reflecting reality here.
Hmm, I'm not a mathematician, but is that really the correct way of looking at it? I prefer to look at it like this.
(1620 * 912) / (1920 * 1080) = 0.7125
Meaning, the Xbox One version have 71% the amount of pixels the PS4 version has.
PS4 have 2 073 600 pixels - Xbox One 1 477 440 pixels = The diffrence is 596 160 pixels.
596 160 is ~29% out of 2 0736 600 (596 160 / 2 073 600 = 0.2875)
Shouldn't it be that the PS4 version have roughly 29% more pixels?
Not this again.
Time to go back to school.
Refreshment.01
Member
To be clear im not saying you are wrong but, (always a but) the fact that it always fold down the same way doesn't mean it's necessarily pre computed. What it means it's that the set of variables that affect the simulation are always equals thus results remain the same. Like i said, im not saying you are incorrect for the Last Light case.
But if the results are consistent when the variables always play the same, what would be the benefit of on the fly physics computing? Well for animation since it becomes an automated more fast process to get results.
I always wondered why Albert Penello talked about a "30%" advantage in his famous meltdown, not a 40% one. We might have discovered the answer.
912? Strange "boost"...
Anyway, looks great. Looking forward to this release ( getting PS4 version).
No. When you say console X renders (percentage) more / less pixels than console Y, the percentage is based on console Y's pixel count. So the PS4 version renders 40% more pixels than the XBox version, while the XBox version renders 29% less pixels than the PS4 version.
What about Destiny then?
12 lines of pixels is really nothing to shout about.
Should of used it elsewhere like reducing tearing and those frame drops.
GhostTrick
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Would be interesting to compare how Redux compare to the original release on PC, to see if there's performances improvements.
You're right, but there are plenty of 1080p games on XB1 as well. I think his point is - nothing has really changed since last gen in terms of resolution. Some people are acting like this is something new.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Destiny seems more of a parity push than anything
theDeeDubs
Member
Glad they chose to prioritize frame rate. I can barely tell the difference from 800 to 1080, but 30 vs 60 is extremely noticeable to me.
Diablohead
Member
I'll take a stable 60 over 1080, bob.
Jinfash
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Unless I'm mistaken, the final code hasn't been compared side by side. And while parity in resolution and frame rate isn't out of the question, some other sacrifices to IQ, features, and effects can be made instead.
I'm looking at this from the idea that the hardware gap cannot be plugged. Having said that, Destiny should provide the closest performance between any PS4/XBO versions, if we go by news reporting MS sending of their programmers to help with bringing up the port to speed.
A has 100 pies - B has 10 pies = The difference is 90 pies.
90 is 90% out of 100 (90 / 100 = 0.9)
So A has 90% more pies than B.
In other words 100 is 90% more than 10.
All you have to do is to divide them to get the perecentage
My misstake, thank you. =)
Better to have both though... like the PS4 and PC versions of Redux offer.
You're making the exact same mistake as Ason was, dividing by the wrong number. A actually has 900% more pies than B.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
This thread just took an awesome turn.
cheezcake
Member
Please let this be a joke
Portugeezer
Member
Maybe basic arithmetic should be part of Gaf's account approval process.