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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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thefil

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I was feeling totally ready for a new Doctor, excited even. Watched that Christmas trailer and starting to get sad as it settles in that this is the end of our Eleven.
 
Woo, I remember people getting tight at Clara kissing Eleven in the trailer for The Snowmen.

GB goes mad over everything. It's simultaneously hilarious and depressing.

I really hope someone out there, somewhere, has kept a record of the best threads. I remember the thread when it was announced that Donna was returning was amazing. And of course the discussion over Amy being a 'kissogram'.

The old adage of middle-aged internet nerd is probably apt over there.
 
Would the BBC be brave enough to have 12 and Clara kiss?

Probs not, as rumours/casting calls seems to indicate that
they're casting a pretty young man for the TARDIS crew to give Clara a love interest & keep the fangirls somebody to fawn over. So there'll be kissing, just not involving Capaldi. Unless River shows up...
 

Fiktion

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Probs not, as rumours/casting calls seems to indicate that
they're casting a pretty young man for the TARDIS crew to give Clara a love interest & keep the fangirls somebody to fawn over. So there'll be kissing, just not involving Capaldi. Unless River shows up...

Yeah I've heard that and I hope it's bullshit.
 
Probs not, as rumours/casting calls seems to indicate that
they're casting a pretty young man for the TARDIS crew to give Clara a love interest & keep the fangirls somebody to fawn over. So there'll be kissing, just not involving Capaldi. Unless River shows up...

Probably true. I can see it happening. If I were the Beeb, I would do that, you don't want to lose the Tumblr army, they are more powerful than anyone could imagine.
 
Probs not, as rumours/casting calls seems to indicate that
they're casting a pretty young man for the TARDIS crew to give Clara a love interest & keep the fangirls somebody to fawn over. So there'll be kissing, just not involving Capaldi. Unless River shows up...
I'm fine with them casting a younger male as a second assistant if only because Jamie and Rory are easily 2 of the best assistants ever in Doctor Who, I would love to see a Doctor Jamie style relationship (ie 2 mates just having fun together) with 12 going forward.
 
Yeah I've heard that and I hope it's bullshit.

Some people suspect it might be
the guy who alerts Clara the Doctor left a message for him at the school. He's got a name in the credits, and Moffat doesn't tend to name one-shot, one-line characters like that (unlike RTD, who gave everyone names), they just tend to be "Man" or "Teacher". His name's Tom.

Tristan Beint, the actor who plays him, absolutely fits the bill. Young. A bit pretty. Trendy-looking. Slim sort of TV credits not dissimilar to what Noel Clarke or Arthur Darvill had prior to Who - Eastenders, Doctors, Downton Abbey, The Bill, Holby City etc. He's basically the most basic/ideal companion fodder going, and the timing of the casting call looking for a "Male Companion" went out around the same time as other 50th stuff.

Some people have grilled him on twitter, and he said "Cripes, there seems to be a lot of conjecture and rumour going on re Tom & #DoctorWho, if any of it's true I'd love it but noones told me..!" earlier today, but... eh, I'm not sure. They all lie, obviously, and he's been tweeting to and retweeting Gatiss and things loads lately.
 

Fiktion

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Some people suspect it might be
the guy who alerts Clara the Doctor left a message for him at the school. He's got a name in the credits, and Moffat doesn't tend to name one-shot, one-line characters like that (unlike RTD, who gave everyone names), they just tend to be "Man" or "Teacher". His name's Tom.

Tristan Beint, the actor who plays him, absolutely fits the bill. Young. A bit pretty. Trendy-looking. Slim sort of TV credits not dissimilar to what Noel Clarke or Arthur Darvill had prior to Who - Eastenders, Doctors, Downton Abbey, The Bill, Holby City etc. He's basically the most basic/ideal companion fodder going, and the timing of the casting call looking for a "Male Companion" went out around the same time as other 50th stuff.

Some people have grilled him on twitter, and he said "Cripes, there seems to be a lot of conjecture and rumour going on re Tom & #DoctorWho, if any of it's true I'd love it but noones told me..!" earlier today, but... eh, I'm not sure. They all lie, obviously, and he's been tweeting to and retweeting Gatiss and things loads lately.
I heard that too and I really hope it's bullshit. I hated that guy at first glance.
 
But Tumblr's totally into older dudes, though.

They need a couple to ship. Whether it's Doctor/Rose, Doctor/Martha, Doctor/River, Doctor/Clara, Amy/Rory. There's no way in hell they'll be able to ship Capaldi/Coleman, but a younger male can do that. It would essentially create a Classic Who-style TARDIS crew. Older Doctor with a cute couple.
 

Reading it now.

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Boem

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*Nods* The Romans is great, a historical black comedy.

It's fun, but also a weird one tonally. There's an unusual amount of comedy for the era, and it's surprisingly violent. Nero keeps chasing Barbara in order to rape her, people keep dying all over the place (and it's usually played for laughs), and at one point the first Doctor even fights(!) an assassin and throws him out the window (well, technically it was Vicky who did that), resulting in his death and the Doctor acting like he just pulled a charming little prank, laughing and joking all the time.

All that can be forgiven though, seeing as how the show was only in it's second year. The comedy does make it one of the more watchable serials for newcomers to the classic era. It's one of those pure historicals, with no alien presence in the story beyond the Doctor and the Tardis. Those work particularly well with the first Doctor, I think. One of my favorite stories is The Time Meddler, where they finally mix the historical stuff and the sci-fi storylines for the first time. The reveal of
the Monk being another Timelord, with his own Tardis
is so well done, I get chills just thinking about it.
 
Anyone else is hoping we'll see Ian make a return? Probably not as a companion but maybe in a one-off. It seems kind of silly that Clara and he are working at the same school yet we'll never see them interact with each other.
 
I wouldn't mind them introducing a larger TARDIS cast for once. What's the most amount of companions the Doctor's travelled with at once? He started out with 3, has it ever gone higher?

One of my crazy ambitions if I was showrunner would be to see what things were like with about 5 or 6 companions in the TARDIS on the regular.
 

Symphonia

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I wouldn't mind them introducing a larger TARDIS cast for once. What's the most amount of companions the Doctor's travelled with at once? He started out with 3, has it ever gone higher?
At once? As in at any one time?

Because I think the end of Journey's End has that beat. The Doctor, Rose, Martha, Jack, Donna, Sarah Jane, Mickey, Clone Doctor and Jackie all fly with him in the TARDIS.
 
Anyone else is hoping we'll see Ian make a return? Probably not as a companion but maybe in a one-off. It seems kind of silly that Clara and he are working at the same school yet we'll never see them interact with each other.

He's supposed to not age now, so that'd kind of be difficult.

Plus he doesn't really work there, he's a cambridge professor - he's just Chairman of the Governors at the school
 

Jintor

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I don't know why, but that train of thought led me back to the "River Song = Ms Frizzle" thing and now the Magic School Bus is a TARDIS
 
I wouldn't mind them introducing a larger TARDIS cast for once. What's the most amount of companions the Doctor's travelled with at once? He started out with 3, has it ever gone higher?

One of my crazy ambitions if I was showrunner would be to see what things were like with about 5 or 6 companions in the TARDIS on the regular.

It would be a hell of a challenge to create well-written, compelling characters. Especially for Moffat who can't seem write Clara well.
 
I wouldn't mind them introducing a larger TARDIS cast for once. What's the most amount of companions the Doctor's travelled with at once? He started out with 3, has it ever gone higher?

I don't think there were ever more than three regulars all active at once, no.

I wouldn't mind another regular on board, but I think more than that would be pushing it for the new show. The old one could do it since the different format allowed for it better, but I think the Doctor and two companions at a time is pretty much ideal.
 
You're probably right about the old format allowing for that more.

It would be a hell of a challenge to create well-written, compelling characters. Especially for Moffat who can't seem write Clara well.

I wasn't thinking Moffat could do it, no. :p

Well you could cheat and have a couple existing companions in there
bring back Ace
, and a Captain Jack-type who gets by mostly on gung-ho charisma.

At once? As in at any one time?

Because I think the end of Journey's End has that beat. The Doctor, Rose, Martha, Jack, Donna, Sarah Jane, Mickey, Clone Doctor and Jackie all fly with him in the TARDIS.

Nah, I mean like for a whole series, not a two minute scene.
 

Jintor

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There's obvious problems of increasing complexity meaning having to write enough characters out of the way for problems to emerge/not be solved instantly/other stuff, or to have every episode deal with every character etc... especially without having multi-part serials every time...

I think 3 regular companions might be a good idea, maybe 4 as an upper limit. I really liked Rory and Amy zooming around with the occasional River appearance, that was pretty fun. Hell, I just liked Amy and Rory. The couple thing + Doctor really worked for me, at least for the episodes where I didn't think the story was just being dumb (GANGERS)
 

mclem

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I wouldn't mind them introducing a larger TARDIS cast for once. What's the most amount of companions the Doctor's travelled with at once? He started out with 3, has it ever gone higher?

There was the era of Nyssa, Tegan and Adric; that's another long-lasting group of three. There's a few briefer instances of three (Peri, Kamelion and Turlough in Planet of Fire, for instance), but it's probably strictly fairer to not count single-serial 'passing the torch' situations.

Can't think of any examples of four.
 
I wouldn't mind them introducing a larger TARDIS cast for once. What's the most amount of companions the Doctor's travelled with at once? He started out with 3, has it ever gone higher?

One of my crazy ambitions if I was showrunner would be to see what things were like with about 5 or 6 companions in the TARDIS on the regular.

One thing you very quickly learn about Doctor Who is that larger core casts simply do not work. Even three companions hasn't traditionally worked- It worked with the original crew, with its initially more antagonistic Doctor and more educational slant, but the second attempt in the 80s was horrifically bad- poor Nyssa spent every other week doing equations or being asleep in the TARDIS, and the less said about Adric the better.

Doctor and two companions is the sweet spot, to be honest. The show's format doesn't really give other regulars anything to do beyond that. The Chase is, I believe, the only serial to have four companions in it, but Steven doesn't properly join, and that sees Ian and Barbara leaving anyway.
 
About the
new companion rumour being the teacher that alerts Clara...
Couldnt that mean that Moffats is going for exactly the
Barbara/Ian with Clara and Tom relationship, and Capaldi doing as Hartnell, seeing now that Clara is a teatcher of the same school of an Unearthly Child making the whole 50 years a whole circle?
Could be cool, maybe even we see Susan again?

Sometime in the future I need a full companion that is not from Earth. Dont know if that would work though (maybe more expensive costume and they think people cant relate to som eone out of earth?).
 
One thing you very quickly learn about Doctor Who is that larger core casts simply do not work. Even three companions hasn't traditionally worked- It worked with the original crew, with its initially more antagonistic Doctor and more educational slant, but the second attempt in the 80s was horrifically bad- poor Nyssa spent every other week doing equations or being asleep in the TARDIS, and the less said about Adric the better.

Doctor and two companions is the sweet spot, to be honest. The show's format doesn't really give other regulars anything to do beyond that. The Chase is, I believe, the only serial to have four companions in it, but Steven doesn't properly join, and that sees Ian and Barbara leaving anyway.

Eh, you could say that about the 80s but I'd probably lump in issues like Nyssa having nothing to do as another problem stemming from the writers being bloody terrible.

Given that both showrunners so far have had experience on sitcoms, and the next few likely will as well, there's nothing that means Doctor Who couldn't have a more ensemble cast... The obvious downside would be less room for guest characters, of course. I don't think there's anything in the show's DNA nor the previous experiments that mean upwards of 2 companions is a no-go. The only problem is that blasted 45 minutes runtime.
 

bengraven

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I would really like to see how sexually aggressive a female Doctor would be.

So everyone thinks that the boyfriend thing is just a clever lie for Clara's family, right?

Yeah, that was pretty obvious to me.

Though to be honest, the way she looks at him this last season and during their solo interactions during the DotD, I swear she's gotta have a thing for him.

Besides, didn't one commercial for the season finale last year have her say something like "what if you fall in love with..."?
 
I think 3 regular companions might be a good idea, maybe 4 as an upper limit. I really liked Rory and Amy zooming around with the occasional River appearance, that was pretty fun. Hell, I just liked Amy and Rory. The couple thing + Doctor really worked for me, at least for the episodes where I didn't think the story was just being dumb (GANGERS)

Yeah I think it was actually really interesting to play with the idea of having the companions be closer to each other than they were to the Doctor. The whole Amy/Doctor/Rory saga was basically the age old tale of your best friend dating someone and then slowly ditching you.

I think it'd be cool to have two companions who are related; a brother and sister for instance. A sibling relationship is a lot more malleable, and has more potential for them to hate each other one minute and then team up against the Doctor the next.
 

RetroMG

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Yeah, that was pretty obvious to me.

Though to be honest, the way she looks at him this last season and during their solo interactions during the DotD, I swear she's gotta have a thing for him.

Besides, didn't one commercial for the season finale last year have her say something like "what if you fall in love with..."?

I think you're thinking of the She Said, He Said Prequel. She says something to the effect of, "The trick to traveling with the Doctor is to not fall in love. I do that trick a lot, sometimes twice a day."

But yeah, my wife and were talking about the last scene where she leaves him alone in the gallery to meet the Curator. There's something oddly intimate about that last scene. My wife chimed in as being similar to how she would talk to me.
 

Mariolee

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I think you're thinking of the She Said, He Said Prequel. She says something to the effect of, "The trick to traveling with the Doctor is to not fall in love. I do that trick a lot, sometimes twice a day."

But yeah, my wife and were talking about the last scene where she leaves him alone in the gallery to meet the Curator. There's something oddly intimate about that last scene. My wife chimed in as being similar to how she would talk to me.

Maybe your wife is friendzoning you.
 

Zeppu

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More importantly - how does she manage to click her fingers with leather gloves on?

More importantly, why didn't the Doctor go pick her up normally, why did have to ride the bike inside, why can she close the Tardis door with a finger snap and when will she stop being so useless?

I mean seriously Clara, don't wait for the Doctor to ask you what's wrong when he's about to blow up his planet. Feel free to interrupt him with something other than a sad face and half a tear.
 
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