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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them

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Unfortunate that they're not going to do another simulcast. Though, I imagine there's a lot more work involved in it then just flipping a few switches.

Simulcasting another episode ad-free probably means more money paid to international channels to cover ad space costs.

Could be too pricey for the BBC to cover for two simulcasts. Three if you count the Peter Capaldi reveal.
 

M.Bluth

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Apparently the Mystery of who was in 11's room in "The God Complex" will be resolved in the Christmas special.
I thought that room had 11's understanding, at that point, of what the War Doctor did... At least I think that what was in the room was referred to at the time as "The Doctor's Secret," so...

The more I see that outfit, the more I really don't like it, why couldn't they have just left 11 in his original outfit, it just worked so well for him, that looks overdone as heck :(
I don't like it either. But it's the exact same outfit from last year's Christmas special. I guess the lighting in that episode masked how hideous those pants look.
 
The more I see that outfit, the more I really don't like it, why couldn't they have just left 11 in his original outfit, it just worked so well for him, that looks overdone as heck :(

He's in his normal outfit for at least part of the episode, I believe. After all, he is
on this planet for 900 years, so it makes sense he'd change.
 
Unfortunate that they're not going to do another simulcast. Though, I imagine there's a lot more work involved in it then just flipping a few switches.

It wouldn't really make sense to simulcast the episode on Christmas. Most people will probably be in the middle of doing things with their family at that point. Airing it later in the evening seems like the smartest decision to make for this case.
 

thefil

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Just finished up the Time Meddler. The only Hartnell serial I have left is the Dalek Invasion of Earth.

Question: how do people track down the old serials? I can get "The Daleks" on iTunes, but not much else from the first doctor. I can buy a "The Rescue"/"The Romans" combo DVD from Amazon.ca... for $250. Or I can order it on eBay from Australia... for $60 with shipping included.

Am I doomed to just skip everything from this wonderful list that was made up for me?

Unearthly Child(just episode 1)
The Daleks
The Edge of Destruction
The Aztecs
Planet of Giants
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Rescue
The Romans
The Chase
The Time Meddler
The War Machines
The Tenth Planet

*edit* Feels like Doctor Who serials are lost in a pre-Internet ether. Could be fun/mysterious to try and track them down.
 

thefil

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I'm Canadian. While normally a great thing, in this case it means that Netflix streaming has only 6 classic serials, and there is no such thing as Netflix DVD rentals. :(
 

maharg

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It wouldn't really make sense to simulcast the episode on Christmas. Most people will probably be in the middle of doing things with their family at that point. Airing it later in the evening seems like the smartest decision to make for this case.

I'm pretty sure Christmas day, including and especially matinees, is actually a gangbuster day for movie theatres in general. It'd probably do pretty well.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/?view=month&yr=2012&p=.htm
 

munchie64

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Just finished up the Time Meddler. The only Hartnell serial I have left is the Dalek Invasion of Earth.

Question: how do people track down the old serials? I can get "The Daleks" on iTunes, but not much else from the first doctor. I can buy a "The Rescue"/"The Romans" combo DVD from Amazon.ca... for $250. Or I can order it on eBay from Australia... for $60 with shipping included.
Wow it seems most first Doctor Stuff is out of print in the Americas. For Australia and the UK it seems better. For example The Rescue and The Romans is available for 20 bucks off the ABC shop and 10 Pounds off Amazon UK.
 

Zen

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Promo Pics:

http://blogtorwho.blogspot.co.uk/

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Going out in style.

Really going to miss him, probably my favorite Doctor hands down, it's a shame that the show runners put him in the awkward position of their reach exceeding their grasp far too often. Tennant had a much easier time as Russell T Davies was far less ambitious.
 
So why didn't they say earlier that this is his final life? Would've made a lot more episodes more dramatic....
The drama's not really in the fact that he's going to die- we know he isn't, so it's pointless building it up.

The drama comes afterwards when he's prepared for death but doesn't die. What does that do to a character?
 

Zen

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The Doctor has been seemingly slipping for some time, especially with 11th, based on the dialogue during the 50th, 'the one who forgets' seemed to be about more than just not wanting to think about the atrocity, he forgot apparently very important things from 10 even. He has live a long time in this form, but he seems to truly feel lost and aimless. Sure he 'has a purpose' now, but that really seems like a patchwork for his own issues.

It makes sense to me that he'd be ready just to lay down and die, at least with this current incarnation. It's probably why he looks so old and cantankerous with our newest Doctor, the look on the outside reflecting the mindset that has been eating away at him the older he gets.

He has been through so many incarnations, I wouldn't mind if they played with that a bit. How can anyone really retain their 'self' after so much and so long?

One thing I don't get, but maybe this comes down to Moffat now always executing well on his concepts, particularly the grandiose ones; If this is the battle of his 'final life', that would make it Trenzalore that he falls on, yet we haven't really seen anything close to the scope that the great intelligence mentions in 'Name of the Doctor'. Unless he goes on one heck of a RAMPAGGEEEE in 'The Time of the Doctor'. Maybe something happens and he has little time left for what he believes will be his final moments. In taht scenario he would probably resolve to solve the universes problems 'once and for all' when it comes to the Daleks, etc. I could see him going full tilt in the name of the greater good, knowing he doesn't have to live with himself afterwards, except he will.

Granted this kind of character development would seemingly undo and fly in the face of how he just saved himself (and the Timelords) with The 50th, but what can you do. Or the Great Intelligence could have been referencing events done by incarnations after 11, and simply he, or no one, was aware that they occurred with future incarnations after the Doctors 'death' on Trenzalore.
 

Blader

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So why didn't they say earlier that this is his final life? Would've made a lot more episodes more dramatic....

Probably because the War Doctor was a relatively recent invention. Without him, there'd still be another regeneration left. Two, if they decided not to count Metacrisis (which I'm guessing was also decided around the same time as thinking up War).
 
Thanks for the links guys. I love how the Sherlock clips tell you fucking nothing, yet the Doctor Who clips are rather revealing :lol

It takes a rare talent to pull off a cape. I can't tell whether it looks amazing or he just looks like he should be teaching Dark Arts.

Why can't it be both? :p
 

Mariolee

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The drama's not really in the fact that he's going to die- we know he isn't, so it's pointless building it up.

The drama comes afterwards when he's prepared for death but doesn't die. What does that do to a character?

I dunno. Why don't you look at The Wedding of River Song?
 
I do find it slightly annoying how
so many of the creepier/grosser Doctor Who monsters have been neutered thanks to a face-turn. Hopefully the Silence don't lose any horror-appeal in their alliance with the Doctor.

I swear one of them is about to attack Clara, anyway, so it's probably not all sunshines and rainbow on Trenzalore.
 

wetflame

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I'm not even going to lie, I'm probably going to cry buckets when its time for Smith to go.

I'll certainly miss him. I do feel though that there's going to be this huge sense of anticipation for Capaldi that'll power me through, much more so than when Tennant left. I was wary of the change to (the relatively unknown) Smith, and even though he definitely won me over and I feel the show's continued to improve, at the time the overwhelming feeling was more of a "it's a shame Tennant's leaving" rather than a "can't wait for Smith to start". This time around I'm pretty hyped about Capaldi taking the role, and wondering how he's going to play it just makes me even more excited. It's going to be awesome. Even that shot of his eyes in the 50th got me hyped.
 
I won't really miss smith so much since I haven't been a great fan of moffat's time as showrunner, and smith suffers from being the doctor under his tenure. I LOVED him at the end of The Beast Below though.

I do hope when moffat eventually steps down he stays on as a writer though, because he's brilliant when it comes to stories, and in the silence and the angels he's created the best aliens since the cybermen which was in...the sixties.

Just finished up the Time Meddler. The only Hartnell serial I have left is the Dalek Invasion of Earth.

Question: how do people track down the old serials? I can get "The Daleks" on iTunes, but not much else from the first doctor. I can buy a "The Rescue"/"The Romans" combo DVD from Amazon.ca... for $250. Or I can order it on eBay from Australia... for $60 with shipping included.

Well that sucks :/

They're super cheap on amazon uk (£6 for dalek invasion; £10 for rescue & romans), but I'm guessing the shipping is going to make that less cost-effective.

Surprised BBC don't have everything up on some kind of streaming service in this day and age, they've already done all the heavy lifitng of restoration
 

cackhyena

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I'm only about 4 episodes into Smith's run but I have to admit, he's already won me over. I can't see him topping Tennant, though. I was genuinely sad when he started regenerating.
 

RedShift

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Smith is my favourite of the Doctors since the reboot. But weirdly even though Ecclestone was my first and Smith is my favourite, Tennant will probably always be 'The Doctor' for me.

Smith deserves to go into the 'old favourites' category Doctor Baker mk2 was talking about. 4, 5, 10 and 11.
 
Smith is my favourite of the Doctors since the reboot. But weirdly even though Ecclestone was my first and Smith is my favourite, Tennant will probably always be 'The Doctor' for me.

Smith deserves to go into the 'old favourites' category Doctor Baker mk2 was talking about. 4, 5, 10 and 11.

I think in many ways Smith & Tennant will occupy the same spaces as Davison and Baker - Davison I think is remembered a bit more fondly by the fandom as a just excellent take on the character, but in terms of the wider public of a particular age Tennant will be THE Doctor for a very long time, if not forever.
 

mclem

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I think in many ways Smith & Tennant will occupy the same spaces as Davison and Baker - Davison I think is remembered a bit more fondly by the fandom as a just excellent take on the character, but in terms of the wider public of a particular age Tennant will be THE Doctor for a very long time, if not forever.

Wait, doesn't that make Capaldi the Colin? Oh dear.

Then again, maybe this'll be a Colin where the TV series actually does him justice.
 
Hopefully capaldi will skip straight to being the mccoy of nuwho - dark, manipulative and prepared.

Could do without the side order of cancellation though
 
Wait, doesn't that make Capaldi the Colin? Oh dear.

Then again, maybe this'll be a Colin where the TV series actually does him justice.

Ironically with the way Moffat is talking about a moody, snappy Doctor - saying things like imagine a Doctor who is in that state where he's livid with humans in The Beast Below but almost constantly, he might well be! But good, and without the technicolour dreamcoat.
 
I think in many ways Smith & Tennant will occupy the same spaces as Davison and Baker - Davison I think is remembered a bit more fondly by the fandom as a just excellent take on the character, but in terms of the wider public of a particular age Tennant will be THE Doctor for a very long time, if not forever.

That makes a lot of sense. Even in the ways Matt and Peter were cast: the youngest Doctors ever (to that point), following up a massively successful and popular run by their direct predecessors.

If this turns out right, then it means Matt's gonna have one hell of a final episode.
 

mclem

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That makes a lot of sense. Even in the ways Matt and Peter were cast: the youngest Doctors ever (to that point), following up a massively successful and popular run by their direct predecessors.

If this turns out right, then it means Matt's gonna have one hell of a final episode.

On the other hand, Capaldi's first full episode...
 

Blader

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As much as I want Moffat to wrap up some of his run's long-standing mysteries, I'm worried that The Time of the Doctor is going to be a repeat of The Wedding of River Song: Tons of ideas crammed together and rushed through, with no real breathing room to serve the emotions of it being Matt's final story.

I don't need another protracted goodbye like Tennant's (though that didn't really bother me either), I just hope Moffat respects Matt's goodbye more than running through a checklist of answers.
 
As much as I want Moffat to wrap up some of his run's long-standing mysteries, I'm worried that The Time of the Doctor is going to be a repeat of The Wedding of River Song: Tons of ideas crammed together and rushed through, with no real breathing room to serve the emotions of it being Matt's final story.

I don't need another protracted goodbye like Tennant's (though that didn't really bother me either), I just hope Moffat respects Matt's goodbye more than running through a checklist of answers.

Without the answers matt's goodbye rings hollow anyway, so it's somewhat of a balancing act.
 

Mudcrab

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I dream of having Capaldi travel with a new Romana when the timelords inevitably comeback and Clara departs. Non-Terran companions are cool.
 

Fiktion

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I can already state with confidence that Capaldi will be my Doctor.

As for influences, I would like to see him actually take some from Nine. I rewatched some of series 1 and Nine really was an angry dude. Capaldi could take that hard edge and make it legitimately scary.
 

munchie64

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I was watching the first ever episodes for the first time today (picked up the "Beginnings" boxset for the 50th), and I must say that I'd like a bit of the anger the 1st shows in Capaldi. Not quite as dickish and bordering on horrible, but a bit of pissed of old man would be nice.
 
I was watching the first ever episodes for the first time today (picked up the "Beginnings" boxset for the 50th), and I must say that I'd like a bit of the anger the 1st shows in Capaldi. Not quite as dickish and bordering on horrible, but a bit of pissed of old man would be nice.

The big difference is where the anger is directed- I think a lot of people find the 1st and 6th Doctor's anger horrible because a lot of the time it's directed at their companions, which is a no no. As is always stated the companion is the window for the viewer, so having the Doctor be an asshole to them feels somehow personal.

Have Capaldi come into a room, shout down all the idiots, beat up the bad guy and then give Clara a hug and you're pretty much fine.
 
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