Doesn't matter, Donna was the best Tennant companion, which is the more important thing to discuss.
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Doctor Who Series 2011 |OT| Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff
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I loved Donna. The season 4 ending was heartbreaking as hell.
acheron_xl
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It was certainly a relief having a companion that wasn't all puppy-dog-eyes over the Doctor.
acheron_xl
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That's one area where Catherine Tate has the rest of them beat hands down.
Nose Master
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After watching 6.11, I saw the title again and laughed at the pun.
God Complex
The God Complex has so many amazing links between the Doctor and the Monster. The idea they're both gods, who are addicted to exposing the people who follow them to their worst fears so that these followers fall back on their faith for them. The Doctor cutting off the Monster's food supply out of pity for him, then immediatly cutting off his own food supply by abandoing his own followers back on Earth. The Monster telling the Doctor he's 'so old' even his name has been forgotten, which dovetails into what the main question of the series turns out to be in the finale.
Toby Whithouse for showrunner!
Toby Whithouse for showrunner!
Hot Coldman
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Freema can't act. And Moffat has spoiled us with companions.
It's quite amusing to see people wishing for Rose back after all the shit I see her get from Who fans.
I'll admit she and Donna were tied for my favourite companion thus far, and that I am a little biased towards her (as I have a thing for Bille Piper, and also she was the first companion I followed in Doctor Who), but the hate she gets is often hilariously absurd in its criticisms.
I'll admit she and Donna were tied for my favourite companion thus far, and that I am a little biased towards her (as I have a thing for Bille Piper, and also she was the first companion I followed in Doctor Who), but the hate she gets is often hilariously absurd in its criticisms.
DrForester
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S1 Rose was the best companion. her and Eccleston worked so well together
WanderingWind
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OMG saw rose in season 4my jaw dropped...
what's the explanation!!
Gotta wait and find out!
OMG saw rose in season 4
what's the explanation!!
I'm not going to say it outright, but if you really want to know, spoiler tagged.
You'll have to wait!
I really enjoy Moffat and Smith's Doctor. Frankly, I've loved all the new Doctors and their companions. Maybe I'm just easily impressed? No clue. They're all a bit different and interesting in their individual ways.
To be fair, I still think the best companion - Doctor team was Rose and the Tenth, but I seem to prefer Moffat's stuff over Davies'.
To be fair, I still think the best companion - Doctor team was Rose and the Tenth, but I seem to prefer Moffat's stuff over Davies'.
Must sleep.....
I'm not going to say it outright, but if you really want to know, spoiler tagged.
You'll have to wait!
Sononfabitch!!! hahahaha
DrForester
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OMG saw rose in season 4
what's the explanation!!
Think of the stupidest reason you can for Rose to be back
Then look fondly back on that as an improvement to what does happen...
All off-screen and reset buttoned and at the end of her run. Could have been K-9 doing what she did and we wouldn't know any better. I really tend not to listen to what shows *tell* me about the characters and instead go on what I see them do. I think this is a reason I think Walt in Breaking Bad is a despicable person and has been for almost the entire run of the show while others seem to think he's a working class hero providing for his family. Likewise, they kept *telling* us that Martha was a strong smart capable woman, but mostly she just screamed a lot.
I really disliked Rose by around the end of her run and into Martha and Donna's run, but then I went back and rewatched and liked Rose a lot more than I remembered. I think she was more often an equal participant in the action than Martha and on par with Donna, and that matters a lot to me.
KibblesBits
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Rose was petulant, bossy, fickle and jealous. I cannot stand companions that fall head over heels for the Doctor and treat him like the way she did and with her an awful pattern came into being that I simply could not stand.
If the Doctor is to have romance let it be a one off or someone of his equal like another Time Lord or some other figure who he will not be able to stay with. Companions becoming involved with him just make things less interesting and more tedious for me.
I am with the crowd that thinks Martha was pretty decent but could have been awesome had they not written her as smitten. Hell I may have been able to tolerate Rose if she had been written that way as well. Donna stood out because she was not written that way at all. And she is pretty much my second favorite companion of all after the Ninth Doctor Regeneration.
If the Doctor is to have romance let it be a one off or someone of his equal like another Time Lord or some other figure who he will not be able to stay with. Companions becoming involved with him just make things less interesting and more tedious for me.
I am with the crowd that thinks Martha was pretty decent but could have been awesome had they not written her as smitten. Hell I may have been able to tolerate Rose if she had been written that way as well. Donna stood out because she was not written that way at all. And she is pretty much my second favorite companion of all after the Ninth Doctor Regeneration.
Ten and Rose only got one season together and it was a mixed back of a season, with only about half the episodes as good.
Kinda disappoints me that they didn't get better episodes for their short time together. If Rose had stayed on one more season we'd have had them together for the much improved Series 3 and been spared the underdeveloped Martha (Donna may have had only one season also, but she had more character development in 2 episodes than Martha did in a whole season).
I would wager the already excellent Human Nature/Family of Blood would have been even better with Rose as the companion over Martha (though admittedly you'd lose the race aspect).
wind_steaker
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That's the main theme of S5, have you watched it all yet?
it's all gone down the crack
Nose Master
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I don't really understand the ending of Season 6.
Why is it any different that he survived the way he did, compared to River de-activating her weapons? The end effect is still the same, he lives. Is it that the universe (or "time") witnesses his "death?" If the answer is the standard: "Yo, it's Dr. Who", that's fine. I just would like to hear theories.
wind_steaker
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I'm not sure we need to spoil series 6 stuff now but what the hey:
River shooting the robot was the fixed event that had to happen OR was close enough to what was meant to happen (with everyone thinking he had died) to be acceptable.
SpeedingUptoStop
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It was what always what happened, or if you wanna get timey wimey, it's one of the million possibilities where that exact moment occurred. The important thing is every thought it happened, to maintain the fabric of reality.
I just really enjoyed how Piper and Tennant played off one another. And I completely agree that Martha was poorly developed, but it was still Tennant so I forgave the character's shortcomings for the sake of enjoying myself.
I don't know - I tend to turn off the hyper-critical side of my brain for this show far more than I probably should. Though I did watch this year's Christmas special in a bit of a daze; it didn't do much for me.
EleventhDoctor
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right-again the event that needed to happen was that The Doctor faked his death...not that he needed to die on the beach. And because it was a fixed moment in time-that's what always happens. He didn't cheat time-the fixed event was him tricking everyone (especially The Slience) into thinking he was dead.
I guess though, that the alt-universe where everything existed at once never happened, so that means Madame Kovarian is still out there in our universe working for The Silence.
She want's to hear him say I love you?
Amy, Rory, and River needed to see him die in order for their following adventures to happen accordingly. The difference between this and the "Old Amy" episode is that the former happened in a location where it's easy to create a very fixed point in time.
Leave Martha alone. I love her and Micky, my two favorite companions.
If I had to rate the companions so far as my favorite River Song would be first, next would be Rory and Amy, then Martha and Micky.
EleventhDoctor
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That episode was horrific.
Hot Coldman
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Do I have to break out the arrows? I will!
Amy & Rory >>>>> River >> Wilf > Amy > Ricky > Donna > the rest who gives a fuck
I admit how she was created seemed trivial and terrible, but Jenny as a character could have been great.
EleventhDoctor
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But I even remember the designs of the aliens in that episode looking so stupid, and there was this scene with poor Freema Agyeman having to act against one of them while it was dying...it was cringe worthy.
Don't get me wrong-Georgia Moffet is hot. That's why David Tennant impregnated her.
DrForester
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Said it plenty of times before, but one thing I really liked about Martha was she wasn't running away from a mundane life or some other personal issue to go with the Doctor.
Thinking about Season 6 again, it really wasn't as bad as people claim.
There were some really good episodes, the Silence were great villains, the acting was top-notch (Karen Gillian should have a great career once she leaves Doctor Who), I liked that there were no Daleks other than that five-second appearance, it was good to have the old Cybermen back, they handled the Brigadier's death with amazing dignity, and even River Song was fun to watch.
Yes there were missteps (the pirates, the story arc could have been told A LOT better) but overall it wasn't THAT bad. Even if we never learned who blew up the TARDIS...
I actually enjoy River Song, but I'll agree about some of the annoying bits like making a Dalek surrender and "You leave the parking brake on". The parking brake? Explain why the Master had the same sound coming from his TARDIS then?
Now to continue waiting for Season 7.
There were some really good episodes, the Silence were great villains, the acting was top-notch (Karen Gillian should have a great career once she leaves Doctor Who), I liked that there were no Daleks other than that five-second appearance, it was good to have the old Cybermen back, they handled the Brigadier's death with amazing dignity, and even River Song was fun to watch.
Yes there were missteps (the pirates, the story arc could have been told A LOT better) but overall it wasn't THAT bad. Even if we never learned who blew up the TARDIS...
I actually enjoy River Song, but I'll agree about some of the annoying bits like making a Dalek surrender and "You leave the parking brake on". The parking brake? Explain why the Master had the same sound coming from his TARDIS then?
Now to continue waiting for Season 7.
Ricky?
Hot Coldman
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Maybe he liked the bizarro world counterpart better than Mickey.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
I'm just sayin, Mickey got fucked.
Just got around to the Xmas special.
For some reason, when it comes to Doctor Who, no amount of deus ex machina and repeated themes is too much for me. I *love* to hear about the special qualities of human beings (i.e. love) triumphing over all else with some fairy magic sprinkled in. I can't be the only one who will take "it didn't count because I was (S6)
" so long as it has that splendid 11 themesong building up behind it.
For some reason, when it comes to Doctor Who, no amount of deus ex machina and repeated themes is too much for me. I *love* to hear about the special qualities of human beings (i.e. love) triumphing over all else with some fairy magic sprinkled in. I can't be the only one who will take "it didn't count because I was (S6)
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It doesn't help that Freema had just played a completely unrelated character like two episodes prior to coming in as Martha (granted, in the real run there was a break between those episodes because of the new series, but when you're watching the whole show in one go it's somewhat annoying).
I think Rose's relationship with the Doctor worked since it was obvious it was a mutual feeling, Donna and him were obviously just argumentative friends and I do think it was very sad what happened to Donna in the end.
How so? He moved on from Rose, thank goodness.
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