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[Hot Coldman]

Matt has this weariness he often employs in his performance. Most recent example I can remember is in Closing Time, when he's telling Craig he dies tomorrow, as Craig and Stormy nod off. It's something Tennant, at least, lacks. But I think that has less to do with him trying to portray the Doctor's age and more to do with that plot involving the Doctor coming to terms with his impending doom.

Matt doesn't play an old Doctor, he plays a Doctor for whom the nature of his age is far more ambiguous. I'd argue they all did this in their own way- the youthfulness of some of the "older" Doctors, Tennant's ridiculous energy and faith, Eccleston's excitement and anger that flipped between that of a young man and that of one whose seen the world burn and is pissed off with it all. But Smith's style of weariness and a sense that he's only just holding on to the youthful manner his past incarnations called upon so much definitely invokes the vibe of an older man more than most regenerations.

 

[GameplayWhore]

It definitely helps that he's frequently looking for acceptance from others by asking them if what he's doing is "cool".

 

[PhoncipleBone]

It definitely helps that he's frequently looking for acceptance from others by asking them if what he's doing is "cool".

He spends more time telling them that what he is doing is cool. And that is what makes him cool.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

He spends more time telling them that what he is doing is cool. And that is what makes him cool.

"Cool aliens??"
"Well what would you call me?"
"An alien."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3M2GA_314k

 

[judhudson]

Got bored, came up with the ‎11th Doctor's Sonic Cane - based on the one from Let's Kill Hitler. Not the best, but I tried. Went with a little different approach due to what I could handle in terms of skills.

Used a pool cue, Sonic Screwdriver, and a foam ball.



More pics here: http://judhudson.tumblr.com/post/27533978070/11th-doctors-sonic-cane-based-on-the-one-from

 

[gabbo]

Got bored, came up with the ‎11th Doctor's Sonic Cane - based on the one from Let's Kill Hitler. Not the best, but I tried. Went with a little different approach due to what I could handle in terms of skills.

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/200/2/3/11th_doctor_sonic_cane_by_judhudson-d57wdji.png[IMG]

Used a pool cue, Sonic Screwdriver, and a foam ball.



More pics here: [url]http://judhudson.tumblr.com/post/27533978070/11th-doctors-sonic-cane-based-on-the-one-from[/url][/QUOTE]

Holy crap, that's really good.

[quote="PhoncipleBone, post: 40015575"]He spends more time telling them that what he is doing is cool. And that is what makes him cool.[/QUOTE]
But he says it like he needs to convince Amy/River in order for it to be cool. Except the stetson

 

[Quick]

Are you planning on repainting the gold to silver? Either way, fucking awesome.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

But he says it like he needs to convince Amy/River in order for it to be cool. Except the stetson

He is just trying to bring Amy/River around to why it is cool. He can't help that he is ahead of the curve with style.

 

[judhudson]

Are you planning on repainting the gold to silver? Either way, fucking awesome.

Decided to go with gold as that's all I had for colors Was thinking about silver - but then I'd have to paint the gold on the actual screwdriver silver, and I have no luck painting plastic pieces.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Nicely done on the Sonic Cane-I bet you could go into production selling those and make a pretty penny!

 

[brucewaynegretzky]

So I just found out the creator of Luther wrote a Series 7 episode.... HYPE!!!!!!!!

 

[gabbo]

So I just found out the creator of Luther wrote a Series 7 episode.... HYPE!!!!!!!!

Now if they could only get the man himself into the Doctor role.

 

[Acid08]

Finished season 4 last night, I honestly loved it.

 

[Error]

Finished season 4 last night, I honestly loved it.

Series 5 is when it gets real good IMO, the seasons got better arcs and the production values shot up.

I still love series 1-4, though.

when can we expect series 7?

 

[googleplex]

Now if they could only get the man himself into the Doctor role.

There would be Blood in the streets if the next Doctor were black, or female.

 

[Error]

There would be Blood in the streets if the next Doctor were black, or female.

Seriously? a black or female doctor would be a nice change.

 

[googleplex]

Seriously? a black or female doctor would be a nice change.

I think it would be awesome but it'll never happen.

Amy gets killed, the 12th Doctor is a female, Rory is her companion.

 

[Error]

I hope he gets a new companion in series7 getting a bit tired of Amy and Rory.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

I hope he gets a new companion in series7 getting a bit tired of Amy and Rory.

He does brah and she is gorgeous, Jenna Louise Coleman.

 

[Prophet Steve]

I hope he gets a new companion in series7 getting a bit tired of Amy and Rory.

That has been announced for a long while now, it even is know which companion and there are already photos.

 

[Error]

He does brah and she is gorgeous, Jenna Louise Coleman.

Sweet. Amy is hot but her arc is pretty much done for and it's time for a new face.

That has been announced for a long while now, it even is know which companion and there are already photos.

I didnt frequent this thread much for fear of spoilers but since I finished series 6 I'll participate more time to join who-gaf.

 

[lunarworks]

Smith vs Tennant?

Smith. For sure.

Tennant played the Doctor very well, one of the best, but the problem is he overplayed him. He was cartoony at times. I don't recall there being much subtlety in his acting.

Smith? He can do way more with a moment of awkward silence than any of Tennant's raised eyebrows.

That said, I wish we got more Eccelstone.

 

[Error]

Best episode of series 6 was the doctor's wife

absolutely fantastic, one of the best in the show. top 3 at the very least.

1. Blink
2. Eleventh Hour
3. The Doctor's Wife

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Best episode of series 6 was the doctor's wife

absolutely fantastic, one of the best in the show. top 3 at the very least.

1. Blink
2. Eleventh Hour
3. The Doctor's Wife

Best episode of Moffats run has been The Doctor's wife. Its brilliant, outshines everything from the past 2 series. Gaiman is really a talented man.

Personal Top 6

1.Midnight
2.The Doctors Wife.
3.Stolen Earth/Journeys End
4.The Next Doctor
5.End of Time
6.Doomsday.

 

[gabbo]

There would be Blood in the streets if the next Doctor were black, or female.

Let London/Cardiff bleed.

 

[Diablos54]

So during my rewatch of the whole of new Who, something during season 2 really stuck out to me. During 'The Girl in the Fireplace' Madame Pompadour said this little line, 'Doctor Who, more than just a secret isn't it?' While it most likely wasn't intentional, I still have to say, Moffat is a God!

 

[Tizoc]

What are some good Doctor Who comic series? I recently read the 100 Page comic which featured a 6th Doctor story by Grant Morrison (which I liked, then again I'm a Morrison fan so that's a plus =P)
Other stories weren't that bad either, altho I really liked the art for the 1st 4th Doctor story.

 

[CorrisD]

The Doctor Who experience thing is open here in Cardiff now, apparently it is like £15 per person or something, can't decide if I actually want to go or not.

Let London/Cardiff bleed.

Bleed from the paper cuts from all the angry letters!

 

[gblues]

Whoo, what a marathon--both finishing up S6 and powering through this thread. My thoughts:

First, all of the new-Who doctors have been great. Eccleston's performance made up for a lot of budgetary/VFX shortcomings. I wish he'd gotten a second series. As I said in my previous post on this thread, Tennant is a very boyish take on the Doctor, and I think it works. Eccleston's Doctor had just committed genocide on his own people and was battle-worn. The regeneration rebooted not just his body but his heart as well, and Tennant brought that to life brilliantly. Matt Smith is the natural evolution, and in many ways Tennant's transformation into Smith represents a sort of puberty for the Doctor.

Now, for the RTD-vs-Moffat discussion: I am incredibly easy to please, so I have a pretty high tolerance for bullshit. I really enjoyed some of the alleged stinkers of the series, like "The Idiot Lantern" and "Victory of the Daleks." With that said, even I was disappointed with the S3 closer. It's like RTD fell asleep watching the Disney channel while Peter Pan was playing and woke up right when they were reviving Tinkerbell and had an epiphany.

Moffat is an excellent writer, and his episodes are among the best. But, I think S6 has a couple big problems. The first is that it's too arc-heavy. Especially when it's a compelling arc like the apparent death of the Doctor, the non-arc episodes get the shaft. I think "Curse of the Dark Spot" and "Night Terrors" were under-appreciated because they didn't really tie into the arc. Dr. Who is kinda like the X-Files in the sense that both series has a mix of serious/scary episodes and campy/funny episodes. The second big problem is that the "doctor dies" arc should have been saved for S7, because knowing that Matt Smith was on board for 3 years completely took the suspense out of the plot. Instead, we get yet another Jesus Doctor moment where Mary Magdalene River tells Peter and JohnAmy and Rory that Jesus The Doctor is alive and well.

That's hardly the only Jesus->Doctor parallel: Resurrection -> regeneration. "The Great Physician" -> "The Doctor". Day of pentecost -> TARDIS translation circuit. Ascention -> cloaked TARDIS.

A few other random thoughts:

- I liked how "Curse of the Black Spot" called back to S1 where Rose is on that "Weakest Link" parody game show and gets "disintegrated." When I saw the Siren "disintegrate" people I suspected immediately that it was a similar teleport.
- IMO the Weeping Angels kinda got Voyager Borg'd (that is, demystified to the point of being non-scary). We can see them move? They are breaking necks? There's hundreds of them? Some of them are clearly in each other's line-of-sight, so how are they still able to move?
- Last, but not least: If River was conceived in the TARDIS *after* the universe was rebooted, how the hell does she end up at the Library *before* the TARDIS explodes or any cracks in space/time appear? Or is it supposed to be like Terminator, where River's conception is like the birth of SKYNET--something that will eventually happen no matter what, and the reboot of the universe only changes the specifics?

 

[EleventhDoctor]

I think "Curse of the Dark Spot" and "Night Terrors" were under-appreciated because they didn't really tie into the arc. Dr. Who is kinda like the X-Files in the sense that both series has a mix of serious/scary episodes and campy/funny episodes.

I too think Night Terrors is very underrated. That epidode looked gorgeous.

 

[Error]

I agree with the Weeping Angels bit, they shouldn't have brought them back.

 

[DrForester]

In a few days, "Fear Her" will officially be uncannonized and debunked!

 

[EleventhDoctor]

In a few days, "Fear Her" will officially be uncannonized and debunked.!

good riddance

 

[googleplex]

In a few days, "Fear Her" will officially be uncannonized and debunked.!

Huh? would you mind explaining?

 

[DrForester]

Huh? would you mind explaining?

David Tennant won't be lighting the Olympic flame.

 

[gblues]

You get that their timelines are tangled right? Just because the universe was rebooted doesn't mean that stuff that happened in his past/her future didn't happen. If everything that was before Big Bang Two didn't happen then the whole series would be moot. It was rebooted, not wiped.

So, "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" (AKA the MST3K Mantra). Got it.

BTW, your avatar reminds me of another thought. I hope Cumberbatch makes an appearance in Who as either the Master or #12. Heck, his Sherlock is basically Dr. Who with Aspergers, right down to the costume. He would be excellent as either a less-manic Doctor or as an ice-cold Master. Make it happen, Moffat.

On another note (sorry, this is what power-reading through 100+ pages at once will do to you), are we sure that the exploding TARDIS hasn't actually been explained? If the plan was to eliminate the Doctor, and we heard "The Silence will fall" when the explosion occurred.. I suspect that the Silence were in the TARDIS with River and told her to sabotage it in order to erase the Doctor from the universe. In other words, it was another failed assassination attempt.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

David Tennant won't be lighting the Olympic flame.

But how cool would it be if he did.....

 

[Quick]

But how cool would it be if he did.....

David Tennant? You guys mean the Tenth Doctor, right?

Spoiler

 

[DrForester]

But how cool would it be if he did.....

Would not be cool at all. Because it would then validate "Fear Her".

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Would not be cool at all. Because it would then validate "Fear Her".

But at the same time, it would be totally awesome to have The Doctor light the flame.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

But at the same time, it would be totally awesome to have The Doctor light the flame.

What would be REALLY cool is if Christopher Eccelston passed the torch to David Tennant who then passed it to Matt Smith. Literally and figuratively.

 

[Future Foundation]

Would not be cool at all. Because it would then validate "Fear Her".

Heh, I remember the brief mini-uproar on Tumblr when Matt Smith got to carry the torch in Cardiff. Basically, they "got the wrong Doctor!!!".

EDIT: Also, if Series 7 is starting in August, when do we get a new OT?

 

[Acid08]

About to jump into the last two episodes of 4.5....then it's new Doctor time

 

[EleventhDoctor]

About to jump into the last two episodes of 4.5....then it's new Doctor time

I envy you. It really becomes a new show.

 

[Acid08]

I envy you. It really becomes a new show.

Yeah that's what's worrying me a little. I love Tennant and the tone the show took with his portrayal.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Yeah that's what's worrying me a little. I love Tennant and the tone the show took with his portrayal.

Just wait. The overall quality of everything jumps in series 5. Sure, Matt Smith is a different beast than Tennant, but everything else took a big step forward in series 5.

 

[Zhengi]

So I never watched the original Doctor Who, but finished watching the new Doctor Who about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure where all this Matt Smith love comes from. I definitely thought Tennant was the better doctor. It took a while for Smith to grow on me and I definitely enjoy his portrayal, but definitely not more than Tennant who seemed more lively to me.

 

[Acid08]

I love the Ood, little Cthulhu people.

 

[Quick]

About to jump into the last two episodes of 4.5....then it's new Doctor time

Acid! My man!

Yeah that's what's worrying me a little. I love Tennant and the tone the show took with his portrayal.

Don't you worry. Matt Smith is amazing, and the moment he popped out of the TARDIS for the first time in The Eleventh Hour, I was sold. He took control of the role and really made it a unique portrayal.

 

[gblues]

Before I head off to bed, I'll do the obligatory companion rankings. Not gonna order them, just give them a grade:

Rose: B+. Has a few stupid moments, but also has a lot of brilliant moments too.

Mickey: C. He's the tin dog! He gets 100x better once he's not travelling with the Doctor and Rose. He gets a backbone in "Rise of the Cybermen" and remains a badass the rest of the times he appears. Still, at least did a few useful things so he gets a passing grade.

Martha: D. Didn't help that I'm pretty sure she's the same actress who played the girl with the door in her forehead in S1. But she was always just.. there. You get the impression that the stories she's involved in would've ended up the same if she hadn't been there at all, except in "Last of the Time Lords" which would've been better if it had been like every other Martha episode.

Donna: A+. Saves the Doctor's life, and doesn't put up with the Doctor's shit. Also isn't all doe-eyed about the Doctor. The banter between Donna and the Doctor was brilliant and usually hilarious. It's a same she doesn't get a proper send-off.

Amy: A+. She's smart, gorgeous, and Scottish. There aren't any cringeworthy scenes (that are her fault, anyway..).

Rory: A+. The development of Rory is really one of the understated accomplishments of new-new-Who. He starts off as this background character and you think, "Oh, it's Mickey all over again." But he grows, he gets a backbone, he becomes a badass. He's died almost as many times a the Doctor, and now he's technically older than the Doctor. He's still soft-spoken and a little shy, but he's not "that guy that hangs out with Amy sometimes" anymore.

Bonus old-Who companion: Adric! F--. Cought part of a 5th-doctor series on Netflix (don't recall the title, but it looked like they borrowed the set of Black Adder). Adric is the most useless companion I've ever seen, dressed in what looks like a McDonalds uniform.

Last thought before bed: I hope S7 doesn't have the narration in it. God, that got annoying. Imagine if Jerry Bruckheimer added a narration to CSI: Miami right between Caruso's quip and "YEAAAAHHHHH!" Same effect. Plus the narration didn't even make sense for ep 11+12 where the Ponds were mostly absent.