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Doctor Who Series 2011 |OT| Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff
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JonathanEx
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WELL I DON'T WANT TO WAITBurai said:
But that's how it feels. Although cliffhung, it was like wait what it's done!?
killer_clank
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Look at around 7 minutes into this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwfhtSYSLiM&feature=player_embedded#at=430
And around 5:12 in this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyj4u9LDw18&feature=player_embedded#at=111
The second one is a lot more questionable, but it's kinda odd either way.
Silence in old episodes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwfhtSYSLiM&feature=player_embedded#at=430
And around 5:12 in this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyj4u9LDw18&feature=player_embedded#at=111
The second one is a lot more questionable, but it's kinda odd either way.
Silence in old episodes?
captain wow
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Fudge it. The whole amy pregnant thing struck me as a bit odd.
All a very long shot I must admit.
The fact that for 40 minutes of the programme it wasnt mentioned at all, amy so desperate to find the doctor again, rory not really seeming to aware that she was pregnant, the only time she tries to tell the Doctor is when shes alone with him. Why did the doctor look so shocked and the fact when he reacted like that Amy gave a little knowing nod to him (watched it back). Doctors baby!
Eteric Rice
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Also, I bet that
The astronaut is young River Song.
captain wow
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Eteric Rice said:
Totally
I really hope it isn't an effect of the Silent unles it's some sort of mind control making her think and say that.Sheppard said:
I find it really unrealistic that Amy would
feel sick and have a stomach ache 2 or 3 times in a couple of hours and instantly think "Well that means I'm pregnant. Better tell the Doctor."
Eteric Rice
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I just realized. If
It's like coming full circle or something.
the little girl is River Song. Then it means this.
In silence of the library, the Doctor first meets River Song (in her dying day) in a space suit.
If the little girl is River Song, then she first meets the Doctor while in a space suit.
It also means that the first day the Doctor meets River, she dies. The first time River meets the Doctor, he dies.
In silence of the library, the Doctor first meets River Song (in her dying day) in a space suit.
If the little girl is River Song, then she first meets the Doctor while in a space suit.
It also means that the first day the Doctor meets River, she dies. The first time River meets the Doctor, he dies.
TabletopTictacs
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The Elite
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A lot of people are claiming
Then again, there is an episode later this season that deals with (FUTURE EPISODE SPOILERS!):
The Doctor at the beginning of the episode is a clone of some sorts. I highly doubt that a clone would be able to start regenerating like the real Doctor would.
Then again, there is an episode later this season that deals with (FUTURE EPISODE SPOILERS!):
Dopplegangers
TabletopTictacs
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Ark said:
Their reaction is the same we when they see the Silent, act scared before turning away like everything is normal.
Dark Knight
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Dizzy said:
I'd like to think it's not as simple as a pregnancy.
Okay this sucks a little. I can finally talk to you guys about spoilers, but only half of the spoilers and it doesn't air here for another 5 hours so I'm trying to go over again in my head which part was revealed when.
But in response to things already being discussed in the thread:
Also just watched Karen's appearance on the Late Late Show and my god she was adorably nervous.
But in response to things already being discussed in the thread:
The idea of River and the Doctor moving in opposite directions really does seem to point to the astronaut being River, I agree, but in the library she said that he came to see her and they went on their romantic evening where he gave her the sonic. The Doctor has to remember this and know that since it hasn't happened yet, somehow he's getting out of his own death. Somehow.
Also just watched Karen's appearance on the Late Late Show and my god she was adorably nervous.
Android18a
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Wow, what an ep. Great start, and definitely not one for the young kids.
Eteric Rice
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Zenith said:
Oh, okay. just being cautious. :O
The Elite
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Thinking from a writer's point of view:
Remember, a writer is always trying to point your mind, either subconsciously or otherwise, in a certain direction. This can either be meant to set you up for a big swerve or to make sure you stay on the right track.
It's fun messing with perception.
The visual imagery of the astronaut suit alone is meant to make the audience recall Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead. It's fitting that both the Doctor's first meeting with River and vice versa would both involve a "space suit" of some kind.
Remember, a writer is always trying to point your mind, either subconsciously or otherwise, in a certain direction. This can either be meant to set you up for a big swerve or to make sure you stay on the right track.
It's fun messing with perception.
So the the child astronaut is Amy's daughter? Or River Song? Or both? And did anyone else think that the Doctor putting on the astronaut helmet foreshadowed him being the astronaut from the beach - i.e. he kills himself? Although Eteric's point about the 'full circle' imagery is equally compelling.
Napoleonthechimp
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The Silents remind me of the the slender man myth lurking on the internet.
Also: Doctor Who... so good.
Also: Doctor Who... so good.
Kuraudo said:
But River says the last time I saw you when she refers to the time the Doctor gave her the sonic. If he actually dies here, that is the last time she saw him and it changes the entire dynamic of the meeting in the library. I just don't see Moffat retconning his own stuff to that degree.
8bit said:
Writing for this show has to be the best experience ever. Where any other show would have to have a character suggesting Matt/the Doctor looks like that as a punchline, with Who he becomes the statue. They get to skip right past reference and make it total revision.
Jinfash
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Well that was a great episode. I wasn't following the Who's news closely, but I had no idea that 70% of season's teaser trailer would come from the premier.
But again, omg so good.
But again, omg so good.
That's an interesting and fair point, but this wasn'tDoctorWho said:
River's first meeting with the doctor 
Jex
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Damn that was a good season opener. As we already know from River Song, Moffat really loves messing around with time travel plots in a serious way and this was one particularly dramatic way to do that.
It's really hard to speculate about future events because the possibility for misdirection is extremely high. It's sure going to be fun to find out though.
It's really hard to speculate about future events because the possibility for misdirection is extremely high. It's sure going to be fun to find out though.
The Elite
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Jinfash said:Well that was a great episode. I wasn't following the Who's news closely, but I had no idea that 70% of season's teaser trailer would come from the premier.
But again, omg so good.
That's an interesting and fair point, but this wasn'tRiver's first meeting with the doctor
We don't know that for sure. Just to be clear
we're talking about the potential of the child being River and not the adult.
stupei said:
Oh, good point.
Internet Celebrity
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Fuck me, that was a brilliant ending. Genuinely made my spine tingle.
Amy is definitely hotter this season.
Amy is definitely hotter this season.
Jinfash
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*ANEURYSM*DoctorWho said:
This is what I get for not following speculation threads, that and lacking some common sense. It all make sense now, especially considering what River was telling Rory. Horii shit.
How long have you guys known, or theorized this? anything else I need to know?
Also:
If someone is going to suggest that Amy's pregnancy, or child, is somehow going to be tied with River's origin story (ie: something as crazy as "River is Amy's daughter!!"), and provide something giving weight to it: I'm going to literally hang myself.
Either way:
wind_steaker
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I can't put into words how great this was, and the camera work/general quality of the production was just through the roof!
Gamer @ Heart
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Whoa.
Im with the main theory in this thread. This season will be crazy.
The first half is seven episodes right? Which means the reveal will probably be the cliffhanger. Awesome.
Im with the main theory in this thread. This season will be crazy.
The first half is seven episodes right? Which means the reveal will probably be the cliffhanger. Awesome.
The Elite
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Jinfash said:*ANEURYSM*
This is what I get for not following speculation threads, that and lacking some common sense. It all make sense now, especially considering what River was telling Rory. Horii shit.
How long have you guys known, or theorized this? anything else I need to know?
Also:If someone is going to suggest that Amy's pregnancy, or child, is somehow going to be tied with River's origin story (ie: something as crazy as "River is Amy's daughter!!"), and provide something giving weight to it: I'm going to literally hang myself.
Either way:
Moffat
We only started speculating about it at the end of this episode so you are completely in the loop. You can laugh along with us at all the people who don't know what the hell is going on.
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