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Dragon Age: Inquisition |OT2| Leave the damn Hinterlands!
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WhiskerFrisker
Member
Man the combat in that game was fun. The Magik Archer class was great.
True, but then you would end up with an underpowered character on both fronts.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
I was perusing the BioWare forums and it seems pretty benign. The biggest thing people are saying is that the walking toggle on PC isn't as good as the community made mod thats been out that also allowed jogging and that it seems the patch screws up the armor rating on crafted shields. And I guess if you're using the 60 FPS command line, the walking toggle can screw up and make it so you're stuck walking.
NobleXenon
Member
I'm kinda happy that I completed the game before patch 3. Until more mods/trainers/save editors come out, I won't put myself through a second run that lacks item duping and infinite inquisition points. I'm not sure if they fixed the chest infinite re-spawn exploit. Can anyone confirm?
HarryHengst
Member
Just use cheat engine and you have unlimited items and money and thus unlimited power once you reach that merchant in Skyhold.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
I do that with my Warriors now that they're Lv23 or so... Gave all the DPS one shield attack and all the tanks one 2H attack.
Can't switch weapons mid-combat though so I can understand what he means... letting loose with a bow and then taking out the daggers up close, etc.
It is but there is one plus side that qunari warrior Inqs look the coolest in cutscenes maybe... everyone else is helmet-less where as your qunari has cool (or at least unique) face paint, and potentially big gold or silver armor on his horns that matches his armor. Between the gold armor on my Inquistor's horns, and the face paint, I thought he looked much more 'Kingly' than any of the other Warriors in cutscenes. The face paint, too, made him appear especially 'Herald-esque' (in a weird curious sort of way).
Patch did not fix this, but found a workaround, Fasttravel away and fasttravel back and you can now continue on the quest without having to load an older save.
Thought I'd mention it incase someone else got the same bug.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Wow, still can't believe I've racked up 60 hours in this and I've cleared out most of the beginning Hinterlands quests, did some sidequests in the Swamps and Storm Coast but had to go level up some more because I kept getting wiped by the rifts and demons. Feels like I barely know anything really going on story wise and like I've barely scratched the surface.
I saw nothing in the patch notes in regards to the texture flickering/problems with SLI, so I suppose this is on Nvidia's end and the only thing that will fix it is a new driver? Bioware seems to refuse to comment on it ever since release.
I won't do my replay of this game until they've fixed it so it would be good to know when there's finally a solution.
I won't do my replay of this game until they've fixed it so it would be good to know when there's finally a solution.
backflip10019
Member
At the rate you're going at, you're probably looking at another 100 hours or so. Dang.
thechristoph
Sir!
No weapon switching is an odd choice. I don't get why they took that out.
Hm, kinda sounds like Game Genie for PC games... might make a second run a little more interesting.
anexanhume
Member
Not at higher levels. Past 20, especially if you get all of the amulets of power, you'll end up investing in trees just to get the passives.
This game is much more fun to play on Nightmare than on Normal. I actually use the Tac Cam now and it allows me to win fights that I otherwise wouldn't (like killing the level 12 Elite Apostate Widris in Fallow Mire at level 8)
Also using potions a lot more and it's opened up a new element to the game. Jar of Bees is super good but went completely unused in my first run through on Normal.
Wish they'd patch in a way to modify your character appearance before I end up beating this run because I totally fucked up my skin color choice. Doubt it'll get put in soon enough though, at the rate I'm going.
Also using potions a lot more and it's opened up a new element to the game. Jar of Bees is super good but went completely unused in my first run through on Normal.
Wish they'd patch in a way to modify your character appearance before I end up beating this run because I totally fucked up my skin color choice. Doubt it'll get put in soon enough though, at the rate I'm going.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
I think the problem with Normal is that the level scaling can be rather low, and so, similar to a game like Final Fantasy XII, you can so easily out-level the story. Normal can still be pretty challenging if you're correctly leveled, maybe a little under-leveled... I remember going into south western Hinterlands or also south western Emprise du Lion, maybe 2-3 levels lower than the mobs (and also only using the potions I left camp with), and it was pretty damn challenging with my non-mage party makeup.
But by about Lv10-15 the story, even when I was within (barely) the recommend level bracket, was pretty easy. And by Lv20, I basically wasted the dragons with my eyes closed (the last 2 in Empise du Lion offering a bit of challenge but mostly because I ran out of resistance/regen potions lol). Dragonrage Reaver spam was just chaining constant 5000-10000 crits sometimes lol... once you get around 18-19, itemization scales so fast. Some of the dragons would have taken 2-3 minutes if they had stood still.
So I think Normal could have worked if they way to scaled Lv1-10 was kept. I've been trying Nightmare and I'm not sure if I like it more because unlike just keeping yourself undereleveled (so mobs mostly just have better raw stats like HP, armour, etc), Nightmare really seems to scale up their ability use, too, and that extra scaling variable puts a lot more importance on your specs. Which is great, on one hand, but it also limits your freedom more... I really like pure melee parties (and also AOE DPS Warriors) but so far in Nightmare I've felt pigeonholed into certain specs, notable Barrier and single-target DPS.
Which, again, is not bad! It's a great option to have. I think I enjoyed my pure melee party more on Normal though, and just fighting mobs 2-4 levels higher than me more than equal level mobs on Nightmare. This is postLv10 though so I'm sure just like on other modes, postLv10 will also scale differently.
In any case, no matter how how you achieve your 'difficulty' (via the Difficulty setting, keeping yourself undereleveled, using underpowered specs, giving yourself rules for using potions to increase scarcity, etc), the game is soooooo much more fun with a sense of difficulty and scarcity, and general survival. All my favorite moments from Hinterlands to Emprise du Lion were when I was outleveled, empty of potions, deep away from a camp and refusing to turn back to restock, and just hanging onto dear life with hoping your Parry or Shield Block aren't broken haha
I've read in some other threads that people have shit on the combat or content of this game, but I dunno... I just absolutely love the raw combat and 'war effort' progression mechanics. 150 hours in and I'm still enjoying finding new camps or shutting demon gates (though granted, I think after today I will have all of them done). I've never had so much fun doing "repetitive filler content" haha. Such a fun game.
But by about Lv10-15 the story, even when I was within (barely) the recommend level bracket, was pretty easy. And by Lv20, I basically wasted the dragons with my eyes closed (the last 2 in Empise du Lion offering a bit of challenge but mostly because I ran out of resistance/regen potions lol). Dragonrage Reaver spam was just chaining constant 5000-10000 crits sometimes lol... once you get around 18-19, itemization scales so fast. Some of the dragons would have taken 2-3 minutes if they had stood still.
So I think Normal could have worked if they way to scaled Lv1-10 was kept. I've been trying Nightmare and I'm not sure if I like it more because unlike just keeping yourself undereleveled (so mobs mostly just have better raw stats like HP, armour, etc), Nightmare really seems to scale up their ability use, too, and that extra scaling variable puts a lot more importance on your specs. Which is great, on one hand, but it also limits your freedom more... I really like pure melee parties (and also AOE DPS Warriors) but so far in Nightmare I've felt pigeonholed into certain specs, notable Barrier and single-target DPS.
Which, again, is not bad! It's a great option to have. I think I enjoyed my pure melee party more on Normal though, and just fighting mobs 2-4 levels higher than me more than equal level mobs on Nightmare. This is postLv10 though so I'm sure just like on other modes, postLv10 will also scale differently.
In any case, no matter how how you achieve your 'difficulty' (via the Difficulty setting, keeping yourself undereleveled, using underpowered specs, giving yourself rules for using potions to increase scarcity, etc), the game is soooooo much more fun with a sense of difficulty and scarcity, and general survival. All my favorite moments from Hinterlands to Emprise du Lion were when I was outleveled, empty of potions, deep away from a camp and refusing to turn back to restock, and just hanging onto dear life with hoping your Parry or Shield Block aren't broken haha
I've read in some other threads that people have shit on the combat or content of this game, but I dunno... I just absolutely love the raw combat and 'war effort' progression mechanics. 150 hours in and I'm still enjoying finding new camps or shutting demon gates (though granted, I think after today I will have all of them done). I've never had so much fun doing "repetitive filler content" haha. Such a fun game.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
How do you use focus in this game? I've tried looking it up but people just say turn it on. I've looked everywhere but there's no place to 'turn it on'. And how do you build it when it's 'turned on' and which button do you press? (PS4). This game is far too complicated for its own good and ALL THAT FRIGIN' talking is driving me nuts. I just want to PLAY! I keep switching from enjoying it to hating it and turning it off. What about the areas? I played The Hinterlands and was really looking forward to playing and competing other areas but since then the areas have been a quarter of the size of The Hinterlands and some are only inside cities (which I find mind numbing boring).
First in order to even get a Focus bar you need to take a Focus ability in the character's specialization tree; it's outlined in Yellow. So Knight Enchanter's focus ability is Resurgence, for example. It's always in the middle of the tree.
Once you take the ability you'll unlock the Focus bar, which builds when you use combos, and to a lesser extent when you do damage in general. Once you get a solid yellow line above your ability bar you know your Focus bar is full and you can use the Focus ability. Simply select the ability on your hotbar like any other ability.
There are plenty of big areas in the game, such as the Western Approach, Hissing Wastes, etc. Once you get to Skyhold you can unlock a bunch of them.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Using a focus ability requires it to be mapped to to your battle menu. The default focus ability for your inquisitor looks like a special symbol. For other focus abilities, they're in the specialization section and are in the middle of that section. To know when you can use focus, there is a bar on the right side, outside the area where your current equipped abilities are shown. If you want bigger areas, just wait until later in the game. You'll see it.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Thanks but I think I'm going to be selling this soon. I find it overly complicated and clunky. I enjoyed the first 20 hours but the last 13 hours have felt really boring I don't like crafting at all. You are basically crafting in the dark unless you jot down what you crafted before, and I'm not prepared to do that. What's even worse is you can end up using something rare and that's that. Everything is so spaced out too. Walk there, walk here, walk over there again, climb stairs (and hope to GOD you can avoid conversations) just to do the simplest things. There's no exploration either. I really thought The Hinterlands was a preview of better to come but since then there's been no exploration at all. The areas are too small to even consider exploring.
Yeah it's safe to say that if you don't enjoy talking to people then you should probably sell it. The game is quite dialogue-heavy.
Is there a list of GAFfers on PC/Origin playing the DAI mp? I like the mp, but I really miss the huge mp community for Mass Effect 3 on Live - it made the mp so much more fun to play. Origin mp for the PC version is such a wasteland for me - just randoms who rush through. 
Here's my Origin nick if you'd like to play PC mp - feel free to add: *****loi
EDIT: man, I hate the Neogaf automasking thing sometimes. My Origin nick: K omboloi (remove the space between the K and "omboloi").
Here's my Origin nick if you'd like to play PC mp - feel free to add: *****loi
EDIT: man, I hate the Neogaf automasking thing sometimes. My Origin nick: K omboloi (remove the space between the K and "omboloi").
WhiskerFrisker
Member
I don't understand why you bought a Dragon Age game and expected little conversations. And using something rare isn't that big of a deal because you can get more later. It also increases your stats anyway. Walking is a fair complaint. You were asking for larger area and once you get to the biggest one in the game, you'll feel like you've been walking for an eternity.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Is there an area bigger than The Hinterlands? I keep liking the game and then hating the game. I just played a section where you have to talk to guests at a ball (can't remember what it was called) but Christ my toes were literally curling.
Lalalandia
Member
It's hard to say actually as my reasons for feeling disappointed with the game are almost polar opposite to yours (way too much combat & fetch quests, not enough gabbing). You have just passed what I feel is the last really good dialogue bit in the game and there are I think a handful of
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I think the Hissing Wastes is larger. It's a TON of sand.
anexanhume
Member
I think the developers said Hinterlands is largest, but Hissing Wastes is close. Thankfully it doesn't have a lot of useless zones.
BoxManLocke
Member
Just came across a bug during the dancing scene in Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, where whatever I replied to the Duchess resulted in negative court reputation (I used the same replies as my first playthrough, the "good" ones).
I lost like 40/50 reputation points, and wasn't able to get enough back to unlock the ending I wanted for this quest.
Btw, anyone ever unlock the doors in the "La Serrure" room right before the end of the quest ? I never got enough statuettes to do that and I wonder if there's anything of value behind those doors.
I lost like 40/50 reputation points, and wasn't able to get enough back to unlock the ending I wanted for this quest.
Btw, anyone ever unlock the doors in the "La Serrure" room right before the end of the quest ? I never got enough statuettes to do that and I wonder if there's anything of value behind those doors.
wolfhowwl
Banned
"I remember when I first booted up Dragon Age: Inquisition on my (not exactly wimpy) PC. The framerate was unexpectedly low, and there were stutters and crashes. Moreover, the controls were awkward as all get-out. Months later, some problems have been solved, but many still linger. PC players are getting fed up.
Over the course of the past few weeks, Kotaku's gotten numerous emails about what PC players find to be the sorry state of Dragon Age: Inquisition on their platform of choice. Moreover, there's a PC community concerns thread on BioWare's forums that spans nearly 500 pages. As you might expect from something that hundreds of people have dedicated thousands upon thousands of words to, the outrage stems from, let us say, a few factors."
http://kotaku.com/months-later-dragon-ages-pc-version-is-still-disappoin-1681031116
Over the course of the past few weeks, Kotaku's gotten numerous emails about what PC players find to be the sorry state of Dragon Age: Inquisition on their platform of choice. Moreover, there's a PC community concerns thread on BioWare's forums that spans nearly 500 pages. As you might expect from something that hundreds of people have dedicated thousands upon thousands of words to, the outrage stems from, let us say, a few factors."
http://kotaku.com/months-later-dragon-ages-pc-version-is-still-disappoin-1681031116
Craft all your stuff, put demon runes on your weapons if you have the mats. On Rifts use Cassandra with Wrath of Heaven + Spell Purge combo to clear groups of demons quickly. Dispel and Spell Purge will also disrupt demons from being summoned for the second Rift Wave if you use it near the summoning spots. Focus fire Terror demons first as they can be knocked down which disrupts their warping and screaming, then take out ranged spirits, then Despair demons last. Don't forget your Inqisitor's Focus ability if you have it.
I'm still super early in the game (level 3 or 4) and will be getting Dispel on the next level up.
I've already started crafting armor for my team and find the rest of the game hard but manageable. It's just that the rifts are already a huge difficulty spike every time and I feel like I'm missing something.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Well at least some member of the gaming media is shining a light on how poorly BioWare has handled the PC version of the game. Which considering how nice Origins was on PC, should make BioWare feel straight up embarrassed.
Not saying lots of people don't have issues or anything, they clearly do, but Origins ran horribly for me on PC, right from the start. Crashes, corrupted saves, texture glitches, a memory leak problem that I tried to fix with a large address aware patch, but after a while the problem came back. Origins is literally unfinishable for me because it crashes constantly in Denerim. Meanwhile Inquisition runs beautifully, I've had no frustrations at all with the technical side of things.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Turn off party AI and do everything yourself.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Man I thought I was going through speedy lol, I guess not judging by some of the posts in this thread.
It w0uld have been such a mindfuck, though appropriate, if they had saved the "Dragon Age Inquisition" title flash for when you get to Skyhold. "Wtf I'm 20 hours in and it was the intro?!:
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Blackwall is an absolute beast. He rarely dies and he usually saves me from sticky situation. I can't do the same with Cassandra. She dies fast even though she has nearly identical abilities.
thechristoph
Sir!
My Blackwall is super squishy. Did you guys spec him for sword and shield? He's 2hand in my game.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
Both my Cass and Blackwall are absolute tanks that basically just never die and revive my 2 Reavers when they spam too much Dragonrage lol
They revive up and can go back to spamming 5-10K crits while my 2 tanks try to get them bodyguarded and at the mob's flank haha and if they both die I'm still good cuz the two tanks never die