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Dragon Age: Inquisition |OT2| Leave the damn Hinterlands!

It's pretty much permanent for me. It's been like that for the past 35 hours of play or so, PC version. I don't mind because I really don't like her anyway.

I want a patch to repair the tactical camera. I want to be able to pull the camera way more. I also want more than 8 quick slot for skills, I'm on a PC and not using a controller. Don't gimp the game please.

Can't speak to the quality but there is a link in the thread somewhere to a mod that lets you pull the tactical camera way back.
 

Zafir

Member
It's pretty much permanent for me. It's been like that for the past 35 hours of play or so, PC version. I don't mind because I really don't like her anyway.

I want a patch to repair the tactical camera. I want to be able to pull the camera way more. I also want more than 8 quick slot for skills, I'm on a PC and not using a controller. Don't gimp the game please.

Save in front of where the NPC should be. Completely shut the game, and then launch and load that save. I sometimes had to do that to get Cassandra to appear, for me she was the one who I had the most problems with.
 

jasonng

Member
It's pretty much permanent for me. It's been like that for the past 35 hours of play or so, PC version. I don't mind because I really don't like her anyway.

I want a patch to repair the tactical camera. I want to be able to pull the camera way more. I also want more than 8 quick slot for skills, I'm on a PC and not using a controller. Don't gimp the game please.

Silly question but have you tried checking the second floor in the tavern? She initial starts outside when you first arrive in Skyhold and the map is not good at signifying which floor npcs are on.
 

X-Frame

Member
That's a shame. Well good luck.

Same thing happened to me with Varric's "visitor" to Skyhold. Had to reload an autosave from 45mins earlier.

Yeah, that happens every time if you choose to customize and have the American voice for your inquisitor.

Been waiting a week and a half or so for Bioware to patch it out so I can have my experience the way i want to have it.

I'm starting to lose patience though, and I'll probably just deal with it if it doesn't they don't fix it this upcoming week.

Thanks everyone, now I know it's a known issue.

I tried to forge on ahead, but the difference voice messed with me too much, very immersion breaking.

I ended up reloading the save that was almost an hour prior and just skipped as much of the dialogue and scenes as I could and only lost about 25 minutes or so, not bad but worth it.

Not to mention, another bug/issue that happened (RE: Varric's Guest)
My Hawke was a female and I even imported it to the Keep and yet the one that showed up was a Male .. another bug?
 

SmoothCB

Member
Silly question but have you tried checking the second floor in the tavern? She initial starts outside when you first arrive in Skyhold and the map is not good at signifying which floor npcs are on.

I feel silly for this but yeah, I found her on the 2nd floor after much fretting.
 
Not sure if I've encountered a bug or not, but the specialist classes are only available to the NPCs I had with me
during the battle at Haven (pre-Skyhold)

...........is something else that will trigger the specialization trees in my other companions? I am yet to complete the
mini-quests to unlock these trees for my own character.

Just seems odd they've only unlocked for those select party members :|
 
Said fuck it and restarted. Goodbye, thirty hours of gametime.

Adjusted the Dragon Age keep stuff as necessary - actually paid attention to the settings for DA2 this time - and I'll stick with the mages this time. Also getting a bunch of banter that I didn't before, a sad reminder of the bug's existence and a nagging source of worry that you'll never know it's not working or that you can never be sure it's working. That said actually having Varric, Solas, and Blackwall all chatting amiably is a really nice change.
So restarting seems to help with the banter? How far are you in your new game and when did you notice that the banter is more frequent?

I'm maybe 19-20 hours in, and I hardly hear any banter. Still thinking about restarting (and still sad I'll probably never be able to recreate my lovely female Qunari mage with British accent). I'll probably wait for the first patch, and then just start again, hoping that restart+patch will help with the banter.
 

Ralemont

not me
Not sure if I've encountered a bug or not, but the specialist classes are only available to the NPCs I had with me
during the battle at Haven (pre-Skyhold)

...........is something else that will trigger the specialization trees in my other companions? I am yet to complete the
mini-quests to unlock these trees for my own character.

Just seems odd they've only unlocked for those select party members :|

You need to take them out into the field for their specs to unlock.
 

kanuuna

Member
Does choosing to 'kindle' a romance with a character shut one out from trying to approach other romance options?
I completed a quest for Josephine and some conversations later, I was put in a scene where I had to make a choice. Will accepting this eliminate all other paths for the playthrough, or will there time to make a final decision later on?
 

Dante316

Member
Started the game, played about 30 min so far. Onw question I have is when do you start specializing a class. Im a qunari mage., and oh love the tactical camera, soo handy at times.
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
Yeah, that happens every time if you choose to customize and have the American voice for your inquisitor.

Been waiting a week and a half or so for Bioware to patch it out so I can have my experience the way i want to have it.

I'm starting to lose patience though, and I'll probably just deal with it if it doesn't they don't fix it this upcoming week.
So it's a known issue, huh? Guess this is where I park up and wait for the patch then. At least I still have the MP and Destiny to play.
 

samn

Member
Started the game, played about 30 min so far. Onw question I have is when do you start specializing a class. Im a qunari mage., and oh love the tactical camera, soo handy at times.

You stat to specialise
about 10-20 hours in
when you
reach Skyhold
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
Started the game, played about 30 min so far. Onw question I have is when do you start specializing a class. Im a qunari mage., and oh love the tactical camera, soo handy at times.
Gotta reach Skyhold first. Dunno if there's a level requirement to it, I'm level 12 and I'm just about to go and do that mission.
 

Xevren

Member
Thanks everyone, now I know it's a known issue.

I tried to forge on ahead, but the difference voice messed with me too much, very immersion breaking.

I ended up reloading the save that was almost an hour prior and just skipped as much of the dialogue and scenes as I could and only lost about 25 minutes or so, not bad but worth it.

Not to mention, another bug/issue that happened (RE: Varric's Guest)
My Hawke was a female and I even imported it to the Keep and yet the one that showed up was a Male .. another bug?

Yea, another bug. I had that happen to me on my first playthrough.
 
Dunno if this is the right place, since this post will be one giant spoiler, but I'm not finished the game so the spoiler thread is a no-go for me at the moment. But basically: I have questions about Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts.

Is it just me or is the quest partially incoherent? I'm pretty sure I'm close to the end because I've been asked to make a decision as to who I will back. But the game and the characters within seem to already know things that weren't clear to me, and I'm not sure if I just wasn't paying attention or if they're really not supposed to be clear.

What I think I know:
- Our players: Celine, Gaspard, Briala
- First, Celine's occult advisor. There's a note in the Grand Library referring to a "Lady M" as the only person Celine can trust. There's also a list of descendants from one of Orlais' previous emperors; Celine, Gaspard and the third woman whose name escapes me but is in Celine's coterie are all on the list.
- Next to the library is a room that takes a Halla sculpture; opening it reveals two dead people and a note from Gaspard, ostensibly for Celine, saying Briala is the real threat and she has some crazy weapon (figuratively or literally). I assume Celine never got this message. Based on the Halla key, I also assume Briala murdered the negotiators (which only just came to mind now--I had the chance to tell Celine's ladies this but at the time I didn't think I had evidence of WHO was responsible).
- The occult advisor, who we originally targeted as a potential assassin, is Morrigan; she gave us a key off a supposed Venatori agent and asked us to help investigate. That key leads to the servants' quarters.
- Speaking of which, Briala has agents at the Winter Palace, but they've been heading into the servants' quarters to investigate something--and then never coming back out.
- Investigating the quarters, you find a ton of dead elves and a bunch of Venatori agents. You kill a bunch of them, and then Briala shows up. By this point, everyone is convinced Gaspard is working with the Venatori. Briala tries to broker an informal deal. I said sure, maybe.
- Back to the ballroom, and now it's time to talk to your crew. Everyone here also seems convinced Gaspard is working with the Venatori; your character says she found Venatori agents and Gaspard's dagger (she did? where? how come I didn't know about it?). But Cullen says it actually doesn't matter WHO is in charge, as long as someone is; Corypheus wants chaos, and having a strong leader will somehow prevent this.
- At this point, I have the option to pick: Celine, Gaspard, Briala, or no one. Having not yet figured out that Briala is responsible for the murdered negotiators, I pick Briala, thinking that she opposes Gaspard based on what she said to me earlier. Cullen then says Briala would have to be the puppeteer for GASPARD.

So here's what I don't get: Gaspard is working with the Venatori. Briala is up to some nefarious stuff herself, and is at the very least unlikely to negotiate in good faith. Neither of these things sound like good ideas. Having told all of this to my crew, everyone jumps immediately to a plan where I blackmail both Briala and Gaspard so that Briala can hold the reins of power and Gaspard can act as figurehead. But GASPARD IS WORKING WITH THE VENATORI and no one thinks this is a bad thing. Even stranger, Leliana is all for Briala because I guess she likes elves? Because there's precious little justification otherwise, my stupid decision to back Briala aside.

Did I miss something? Like, are there entire plot points I simply bypassed because I missed a mission trigger? I still have a few apparent missions like "Speak to Ambassador Briala" and I did leave Celine's ladies in the dark regarding evidence I supposedly had to give them. Basically, none of this makes any sense to me and I feel a lot less sure than when I had to decide who to make the ruler of Ferelden in DA:O, which was itself kind of a shaky decision.

What you must bear in mind is that nobody here is clean; everyone have lied, cheated and killed innocents to get where they are now. That said...
- Nobody is actually convinced yet that Gaspard is working for the Venatori. Even Briala commented that it's too far for him. All they are saying that if it's true, then the Inquisitor needs better evidence to use as a leverage. And the knife isn't enough; it's the Grand Game, after all.
- Yes, the Inquisitor actually found Gaspard's knife in the Servant's Quarter. It's an unmissable cutscene where they inspect an ambassador with a knife sticking out of his back and the Inquisitor's companions comment that it bears the mark of House de Chalons.
- Briala, being an elf, could never rule. She must work together with either Gaspard or Celene. Everybody is working on the assumption that Celene+Briala would never work due to the personal bad blood between them, not to mention that Celene is too great a player to be just a puppet of Briala, so they default to suggesting Gaspard+Briala. But it's not like it's your only choice.
- You still have some time to find more evidence and reach a more concrete opinion.
- Ya, Leliana is kinda a naive hippie like that.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Any word when there will be a patch (on PS4)?
I got this annoying dialogue bug where it seems the only way i can continue the dialogue is to skip lines. *sigh* I reckon i need to wait.
 

Zafir

Member
Does choosing to 'kindle' a romance with a character shut one out from trying to approach other romance options?
I completed a quest for Josephine and some conversations later, I was put in a scene where I had to make a choice. Will accepting this eliminate all other paths for the playthrough, or will there time to make a final decision later on?

Well, you still have the opportunity to get out of her relationship until the choice says "commit to this relationship". You have to get out of her relationship to start another though.
I know Dorien will ask you to end your current one, others just stop giving you the flirt option that will push you down the route.
I would be a bit worried though. Sometimes it seemes like selecting specific flirt options, flirt options that disappear if you're in a relationship, may actually put you on the right path to start their relationship. I've noticed this with
Blackwall, Solas and Iron Bull.
 

adj_noun

Member
Any word when there will be a patch (on PS4)?
I got this annoying dialogue bug where it seems the only way i can continue the dialogue is to skip lines. *sigh* I reckon i need to wait.

Don't skip; wait until the dialogue resumes on its own. Should take a minute or two (at least it did for me)
 

Woorloog

Banned
Don't skip; wait until the dialogue resumes on its own. Should take a minute or two (at least it did for me)

A minute or two...? Ugh.
Right, i'll try that.

My question still stands though.

Figures i continued my save too early, i had nice 12 day break, could have gone for some days more easily...
 

Laekon

Member
Spent a lot of time this weekend playing this game but got a few questions.

1. Are the shards worth collecting?

2. Schematics don't have any information telling you about the item level. Does the level just depend on the materials used?

I'm liking the game so far but there are a lot of little bugs and weird design decisions that keep it from being great. Like why are there level 12 mobs in the middle of the Hinterlands? Why did I get a level 6 armor drop in the intro?
 
What you must bear in mind is that nobody here is clean; everyone have lied, cheated and killed innocents to get where they are now. That said...
- Nobody is actually convinced yet that Gaspard is working for the Venatori. Even Briala commented that it's too far for him. All they are saying that if it's true, then the Inquisitor needs better evidence to use as a leverage. And the knife isn't enough; it's the Grand Game, after all.
- Yes, the Inquisitor actually found Gaspard's knife in the Servant's Quarter. It's an unmissable cutscene where they inspect an ambassador with a knife sticking out of his back and the Inquisitor's companions comment that it bears the mark of House de Chalons.
- Briala, being an elf, could never rule. She must work together with either Gaspard or Celene. Everybody is working on the assumption that Celene+Briala would never work due to the personal bad blood between them, not to mention that Celene is too great a player to be just a puppet of Briala, so they default to suggesting Gaspard+Briala. But it's not like it's your only choice.
- You still have some time to find more evidence and reach a more concrete opinion.
- Ya, Leliana is kinda a naive hippie like that.

Having jumped back a tad to an earlier save and replayed that conversation differently, I now see that
none of it really mattered in the end anyways, and I pretty much got what I wanted originally: Celine + Briala. I also see now what you mean by "no one is clean"; I'd forgotten that Celine flushed out the alienages.

Also, I think I DID miss a cutscene, because I totally don't remember the one you described, unless
it's the cutscene you get right after you walk into the servants' quarters, in which case I totally missed the significance of what everyone was saying. This is entirely possible as sometimes my attention wanders.

Anyways. Pretty neat quest in the end! Glad for the change of pace, too.
 

X-Frame

Member
Yea, another bug. I had that happen to me on my first playthrough.

Damn. Well, I think that after I finish my first play through I'll wait to start my 2nd one until after a patch is released on console to fix a lot of these issues. There definitely seems to be a good amount of bugs.
 

Zafir

Member
Having jumped back a tad to an earlier save and replayed that conversation differently, I now see that
none of it really mattered in the end anyways, and I pretty much got what I wanted originally: Celine + Briala. I also see now what you mean by "no one is clean"; I'd forgotten that Celine flushed out the alienages.

Also, I think I DID miss a cutscene, because I totally don't remember the one you described, unless
it's the cutscene you get right after you walk into the servants' quarters, in which case I totally missed the significance of what everyone was saying. This is entirely possible as sometimes my attention wanders.

Anyways. Pretty neat quest in the end! Glad for the change of pace, too.
Celene
also isn't clean for another reason, but you need 5 statues to find that evidence. :I
 
Man, the PC UI really feels cobbled together. You mouse over the abilities on the hotbar and you'd think you'd have a tooltip popup to tell you what the ability does? NOPE. Want to know what that ability is? You have to make about a dozen more mouse clicks to find that.
 

KorrZ

Member
It's a pain in the ass but if you wait about a minute the dialogue keeps going it didn't actually freeze. Spoilers for choices from past games and how they translate to teh bug you are seeing:
Stroud could also be Logain or Alistair so I think that bug occurs because the system is trying to read which character should be in that slot and then which dialogue is supposed to be used/which voice sample goes to it. It will not be the last time you see it with Stroud in your case
It sucks but just wait it out, the dialogue will continue.

Hmm thanks for the tip. I guess I just need to be a little more patient with it.
 
Man, the PC UI really feels cobbled together. You mouse over the abilities on the hotbar and you'd think you'd have a tooltip popup to tell you what the ability does? NOPE. Want to know what that ability is? You have to make about a dozen more mouse clicks to find that.

Press C > clicks on tactics > see each ability's tooltip by hovering the mouse
1 click?
 

Xevren

Member
Man I really love this game but it goes out of it's way to piss me off with bugs, getting corrupt saves or just outright crashes on ps4.
 
Came across this on tumblr, so true; the poor advisors.

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GavinUK86

Member
Press C > clicks on tactics > see each ability's tooltip by hovering the mouse
1 click?

That's 3 moves. Jibbajabba was right, it should give you a tooltip by just hovering over the bar. I prefer m/k but it's unplayable for me. I've just been using a controller for the past 100 hours.
 
That's 3 moves. Jibbajabba was right, it should give you a tooltip by just hovering over the bar. I prefer m/k but it's unplayable for me. I've just been using a controller for the past 100 hours.

Yes, I do agree that there should be tooltips on hovering the skillbar, but it's the same as in consoles, right?
I just a little itched by the "you need dozens of clicks to see each skill & description".
I hope the upcoming patch will cover PC controls.

I believe there can be
Stroud, Alistair and Loghain.

I see.
Alistair is the king and Loghain is dead on my world
, that explains it. I guess I'll make a wholly different world for my next playthrough.
 

Dante316

Member
A stupid question, it says head to war table but it gives no way point lol. Im soo lost staring at the screen for 10 min.., where is it
 
Do these side quests in Hinterlands actually do anything for me? I know the game opens up more but should I care about any sidequest?
 
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