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Dragon Quest 7: Fragments of the Forgotten Past |OT| Roman numerals are hard
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Tizoc
Member
The. I hadnt learned it yet
Must be a tier 2 or 3 class spell
Daria Morgendorffer
Member
So how do monster classes work, I think they use those hearts and I have a healslime heart but how do I use it? Do I use it at alltrades abbey or somewhere else?
KittenMaster
Member
Yeah, it's Alltrades. Just have the monster heart in that character's inventory and it'll allow the option to change to that monster class. It will show the character as their default costume for dungeons and towns but use a monster 3D model for world map and battles.
Yup, so much more satisfying then watching a Tv show or anime before bed.
Love it.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha I was actually going to watch a few episode of the new luke cage show and....instead i find myself playing a few islands of DQ haha
I had massive burnout with this game after 30 hours, but now I feel like diving back in.
I wish I could pace myself better, since I really think DQ works best as a "short bursts each day" kinda game.
I think a lot of the design decisions are amplified if I rush through these games, but when I play them at a more relaxed pace, I can more easily enjoy the many great elements they have.
Especially since the posters above me already pointed out how well the episodic nature of the game lends itself for shorter but frequent play sessions.
In a weird way, it reminds me quite a lot of Animal Crossing - charming games with often slow paced mechanics. The guy in the shop in AC greeting you and saying goodbye every single time you enter and leave is not a problem at all if you play it only once in a while, but if you're trying to steamroll your way through the game you're going to get frustrated by it very soon.
I wish I could pace myself better, since I really think DQ works best as a "short bursts each day" kinda game.
I think a lot of the design decisions are amplified if I rush through these games, but when I play them at a more relaxed pace, I can more easily enjoy the many great elements they have.
Especially since the posters above me already pointed out how well the episodic nature of the game lends itself for shorter but frequent play sessions.
In a weird way, it reminds me quite a lot of Animal Crossing - charming games with often slow paced mechanics. The guy in the shop in AC greeting you and saying goodbye every single time you enter and leave is not a problem at all if you play it only once in a while, but if you're trying to steamroll your way through the game you're going to get frustrated by it very soon.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Oh Fuuuuuck you, game. Just spent about 20 minutes fighting
during the hubble scenario....pulled out every last trick I could think of, used tons of items and
. God damn.
hybris as a demon
unwinnable isn't it. Wiped and story scene kicks in...
Great comparison. 100% Agree. In AC that stuff is charming, assuming you aren't trying to grind out a 3-5 hour session, in that case it can be VERY annoying. Haha
I agree with that too. If you're playing a marathon session then a short conversation every time you save is annoying, but if you're only playing for an hour or so, it's not so bad. I generally only save when I'm ending the session as the penalty for death is so light.
Chugging along... probably 40 hours in at this point. Just got
and the end of the story seems to be looming closer than I thought. It used to feel like there were so many islands left to explore, this game will last forever! Now there are only a few places left to see. :'(
Also, I hit the cap in a few tier 2 jobs and had to demote those characters back to tier 1s so they can get new tier 2 jobs later. Now I'm rolling with 3 tier 1 guys and a paladin. Suddenly the game feels a lot harder again.
Aishe
Also, I hit the cap in a few tier 2 jobs and had to demote those characters back to tier 1s so they can get new tier 2 jobs later. Now I'm rolling with 3 tier 1 guys and a paladin. Suddenly the game feels a lot harder again.
If it makes you feel better, I did the same thing. Only used one item though (a leaf). Still annoyed me.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha I used a bunch of Ygg leafs.
I pretty much only *lost* by attrition once my mp ran out
BossDarkseid
Member
Ok, i think i'm stuck.
I've done everything available to me at this point (most recent island was
) and i have used every fragment I have and when I use Check Next Fragment it just talks about King Maximo/Mini Medal stuff.
The Imp in the Shrine talks about a new island north of the desert town (is this not the one I previously mentioned?) but I have been there and can't find any fragments, nor do any show up on the radar.
I have the
and have no idea what to do :/
I've done everything available to me at this point (most recent island was
a young king deciding to use the Incantation to unleash some terrible evil, i finished all that stuff and visited the QUeen in the present
The Imp in the Shrine talks about a new island north of the desert town (is this not the one I previously mentioned?) but I have been there and can't find any fragments, nor do any show up on the radar.
I have the
Hero, Mervyn
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Literally just about here so if your still stuck in 20 minutes I'll reply again haha. It's nothing to do with the maximo fragment though, that's for bonus stuff.
BossDarkseid
Member
Ha, ok.
I'll search that town again but if you could post what you do, that'd be super helpful and appreciated.-
Donniewahlberg
Banned
No bother haha I just returned to the present from hubble
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Okay I think I got it.
when you leave maribel at home, someone mentions visiting your parents. Your dad gives tells a story about the roamers appearing in the north west, just arrived at their camp
what the hell is this cloud boss at the vale doing
130 damage to everyone in my party :|
I'd be fine if I still had Maribel since she was a great healer along with my main. But now I'm stuck with that new girl who knows no healing, ruff who knows no healing, and Mervyn who only knows midheal.
I'd be fine if I still had Maribel since she was a great healer along with my main. But now I'm stuck with that new girl who knows no healing, ruff who knows no healing, and Mervyn who only knows midheal.
BossDarkseid
Member
Hmm, ok. I'll visit and see if anything happens.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
BossDarkseid
Member
Pretty confident this is right
Ok, this is weird. Went back home and they said my Dad had just left to go out to sea.
So I went back to the Shrine of Mysteries.
In the Yellow Pillars I have all but the top right map filled in. Top right map is missing two shards.
In the Red Pillars, I have everything.
In the Blue Pillars I'm missing one or two fragments in the Bottom Right.
In the Green Pillars I'm missing three fragments in the Bottom Right.
This is so annoying
Edit: Just realised the top right of the Green Pillars had no locations listed so i may have put the fragments in but never visited. God damnit
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Right I'm guessing you still have a location to do. Before hubble I did providence and Nottagen, have you visited those?
Edit: haha just saw your update. Well sorry for the slight preview into the future there haha! I thought I was safe since you'd applied all the fragments
2nd edit: Awesome. Arrived at aeolus Vale and found a diary mentioning
Felixstowe visiting and warning them about the grey rain
KittenMaster
Member
I love how the game (about 60-70% of the world map explored so far)
I have the M
C
now and
doesn't just have two time periods or world states, later visits in the past have you seeing familiar characters as older than they were and how their life has progressed since you last saw them.
I have the M
agic
arpet
it is great seeing the world so far put together and exploring it as one big world map, and they give you several new locations to visit, which is nice.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
This is why you always grind jobs for heals just in case someone leaves.
About to get
.
I envy the people who have enough free time to have beaten this game already. Also envy people with enough strength in their hands to hold a 3DS in their hands for that long without them cramping up. The 3DS has been murder on my hands when playing for long periods straight.
Mervyn
I envy the people who have enough free time to have beaten this game already. Also envy people with enough strength in their hands to hold a 3DS in their hands for that long without them cramping up. The 3DS has been murder on my hands when playing for long periods straight.
Stratosphere
Member
Wew lad, 18 hours in still no job system. Dragon Quest pls.
GreenMonkey
Member
Got the download bar up for Haven at about 12:45 eastern time but looks like I missed the promo downloads I figured the cutoff would be 12:00 pst.
I figured the cutoff would be 12:00 pst.There are some chests you can open with it.
Stratosphere
Member
Am I supposed to come back later for the tablet shard at the excavation site in
?
Roamer Encampment present
Teriyaki Blues
Member
You must clear Nottagen and hand over Monster Enclosure Plans to the NPC that will then appear in Monster Meadows. You must wait until the Monster Enclosures are built to visit your Monster Pals. Once Nottagen appears in the Present you may create a team to fish up a custom Travelers Tablet without waiting for an Enclosure to be built.
Monsters in this game do not join your party in a traditional sense. Your party members can change into Monsters via the Monster Hearts instead, however very few Monsters drop Hearts.
protonion
Member
Thanks! Now I just got to the casino so I guess it'll have to wait a bit.
BossDarkseid
Member
Well I did the Providence stuff and went back to the Present. Dad is still out at sea, no fragments available so...-shrug- maybe i'm going to have to go back into the past of each area and see if the radar pops. So annoying
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Have you did Nottagen?
BossDarkseid
Member
Yep. Don't have my 3ds to hand but that's the area with a
Dark Dragon Tower?
The n00b Avenger
Member
Just to make sure,
Maribel has left your party right?
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Damn, i'm stumped ha. If you've completed Hubble, Nottagen & Providence, there should be a scene that moves the story on. I'm not even sure shard gathering in the present woulds affect that, since it activates as soon as you return to the present, there must be something left incomplete from those three in the past.
I think this is the issue, I believe thats a no.
There is some repeat stuff
between the past and present of nottagen where you have to go back and forth
The n00b Avenger
Member
Yeah, it's possible you just did one event in Nottagen and then ignored the rest but the game blatantly tells you to go back and finish it so that doesn't seem very likely.
BossDarkseid
Member
Yeah, party is still full.
I've popped back to Nottagen's Past and nothing left for me to do there so just going to zoom to them in the present, chat to people and see if there's anything I've missed.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
okay so in the story so far, for hubble
the last chaper is "a reckless king repents"
"a great debt of gratitude in the past, then "at long last" in the present
"providence regained"
Also, for hubble
present, it's "sh shall be best friends"
involving the mayor's descendents now looknig after the church, and a wooden statue
The n00b Avenger
Member
IIRC the event automatically happened for me the moment I left Hubble and came back to the present so theoretically I don't even think present events should matter since it triggered before I even had the chance to visit present Hubble.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
I think that's why my hubble present chapter is a few down form the end of that scenario ha. Just trying to make sure he has all those resolution points in the chapter list, was the best way i could think to find out what the problem is without any actual spoilers
Ah wait, if
maribel hasn't left
queen in hubble yet right?
speak to the king in his bed?
Donniewahlberg
Banned
You just click it, and if there's a fragment out there that's available at the moment, it'll give you a hint as to where it is
For some reason nothing happens when i click it.