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Fall Anime 2014 |OT2| Idly waiting for the Dog Days of Sabre
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NaDannMaGoGo
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Aldnoah was garbage but...to me not quite on the level as Sidonia, which needs to be taken behind the shed.
Well yes. But I just meant that they rarely bother to explain or give reason for anything in this show.
Rewatching the first ep Favaro had to actually weaken his 2 bounties to capture them.
On that front yup. But the uncensored version of the show sold rather poorly as far as I'm aware. So the bait ( and boy was 80% of the censorship unnecessary) didn't do a lot there.
Shirobako C87 PV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNWc-8N1LfI
Didn't really work for Tokyo Ghoul I think.
It's the nudity that's a selling point rather than the terrible uncensoring job in Tokyo Ghoul. Cross Ange seemed set up for it with the sheer amount of fanservice in it.
Yama no Susume S2 - Episode22-24 (End)
It's nice to see that even at the very end of the series, they're able to introduce a brand new character who adds something to character dynamics. There were a number of nice moments in the final episodes, but things mostly play out the way they're expected to. There isn't much to really say about a show like this other than the fact that it effectively does the job it needs to - it's a nice relaxing show which doesn't rely on much drama allowing the viewer to enjoy watching characters just interact with each other. Ending the series with another pseudo-fight between Hinata and Aoi is a little repetitive, but it does help highlight the ups and downs of friendship and also how things don't have to change after they fulfilled their "promise" in the climb.
It's nice to see that even at the very end of the series, they're able to introduce a brand new character who adds something to character dynamics. There were a number of nice moments in the final episodes, but things mostly play out the way they're expected to. There isn't much to really say about a show like this other than the fact that it effectively does the job it needs to - it's a nice relaxing show which doesn't rely on much drama allowing the viewer to enjoy watching characters just interact with each other. Ending the series with another pseudo-fight between Hinata and Aoi is a little repetitive, but it does help highlight the ups and downs of friendship and also how things don't have to change after they fulfilled their "promise" in the climb.
KillerMan91
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Those Gundam numbers are pretty fucking bad. 00 did over 30k on average per volume and SEED over 60k.... Second bomba Gundam show in the row (after AGE).
Maximilian Kolbe
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Don't worry, bandai just announced Tales of zestiria TV special anime will include in every TOZ game copy, best TV anime sales ever(lol) is coming.
Yes, this is satisfactory.
Puni Puni Poemy was basically the director getting free reign to make an entire series like episode 26 of Excel Saga, with pretty spectacular results. And by spectacular I mean spectacularly disturbing but pretty funny. I kind of miss Excel Saga's humor and insanity. Nobody really talks about it anymore
Noumi is a total bastard, but he has reasons for his villainy, as opposed to that other shitty villain in SAO. The more I see this show the more angry I get that SAO was more popular.
You gotta watch the shorts like sweat punch, digital juice, Noiseman Sound insect, and Tweeny Witches especially! There is some really creative and amazing stuff in there. Very talented studio.
All hail Kuroyukihime! Best girl and one of my favorite characters in anime in general. Love her so much.
Yeah I have to admit that Tweeny witches made me excited for LWA. I saw similarities and it brought a smile to my face. The two really dont have anything in common other than witchcraft but Id like to think Trigger knew about Tweeny Witches and possibly made LWA in that spirit.
Wonzo, I dont get along very well with you but we honestly dont have all that dissimilar taste in anime. My anime fandom is extremely broad and encompasses a little of everything.
I dont know this but I like the art.
Didn't have a chance to post this as I got it from last week before christmas but here are my pickup from the Right Stuff Christmas sales. Man....so much anime....so little time.
Forgot to add the 3 PSP title I also get from them.
Now you guys can know my suffering from chronic lack of shelf space lol.
It is a really addicting show, loli service aside. Thats a tough hurdle for some to cross, but if you can manage it, youre treated to a pretty entertaining story and some fun characters. The end just makes you want more.
I am extremely happy to see someone else enjoying Accel World. While not perfect I think Kawahara took a lot of lessons learned from SAO and made a much less frustrating and infuriating story and some much better characterizations. He has some potential as a writer if he doesnt allow the stupid self fulfillment crap to get in the way.
Accel World sidestepped that and introduced characters and stuck with them, not just introducing them as harem fodder or for convenience. you really felt like everybody in that world had purpose for being in the story. It even had some nice twists here and there. Through it all, Kuroyukihime stays loyal to Haru and you get a sense these characters actually care about each other.
Turin Turambar
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You can now bask in to the sight of my Aoty post.
R_thanatos
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Hi school seha girls - 13
But hi school seha girl is not a bad distraction.. It's what it is because of the limited choice of characters they could take but i enjoyed it ...Megadrive not being athletic , saturn love troubles, dreamcast and her internet access , i liked them all. And i wouldn't mind another season. I feel that they managed to have a decent list of games, too.
The sonic episode was the best with chain chronicle being a close second , the phantasy star episode was the worst , unfortunatly
Well this is a show that actually managed to stay intresting despite the very low production values and some recycling
But hi school seha girl is not a bad distraction.. It's what it is because of the limited choice of characters they could take but i enjoyed it ...Megadrive not being athletic , saturn love troubles, dreamcast and her internet access , i liked them all. And i wouldn't mind another season. I feel that they managed to have a decent list of games, too.
The sonic episode was the best with chain chronicle being a close second , the phantasy star episode was the worst , unfortunatly
We shall never allow anime to die!
Agreed. Chiyu is probably the closest and maybe has a little crush on Haru but in the end, she isnt as gung ho crazy about him as any harem girl would. Its kind of cute in a way. But shes also Taku's girl. Haru has his own snow goddess anyway. Who the hell wants Chiyu?
I see what you did there.
Its mighty early in the studio's life to be saying stuff like this.
Kate is still pretty awesome. Cant hate.
I never thought I would see these words. Anime has changed.
Inoue Battle
This was not that great. Anime-Gaf, why did you lie to me
Nobody said it was great. Hatoko is the only good thing about it really. Maybe Mirei too.
I wonder how different the manabi line is for DVD as opposed to bluray given the cost difference in producing htose discs. Or is it negligible?
Exactly. Give them time to find themselves! They are already a very promising studio!
That Dude John
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Man, somebody played Sonic Adventure 2.
Man, somebody played Sonic Adventure 2.
I think that's one of the reasons its so good. It found the right balance to tell the story. PA Works is overall pretty damn good at doing that sort of thing. Yes they have had some pooper's but all the pooper's were 1 cour shows. Seems all the 2 cour PA Works shows are masterpieces in original story (when it comes to anime since if I don't mention that I might be attacked out of context). Hanasaku Iroha, Nagi-Asu, and Shirobako are their 2 cour shows. Actually going back and looking at the 1 cour shows that are original stories or really loose adaptations, they have done really solid there as well (minus glasslip) It's the few times they adapted novels and already written material that their animes have been weaker. Overall even with the few failures, PA Works is about as guaranteed solid anime studio as you can get nowadays.
EDIT: on that note, oh god PA Works next show has Key involved.
PdotMichael
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Anime studios aren't hiveminds. There is no connection between the Shirobako lead staff and all the other PA Works anime except Another. In fact Team Mizushima is pretty much it's own thing.
a giant space lizard?
Yeah but I think we can all agree that studios can be relied on for certain things like when you say gonzo, I say trash. when you say Toei, I say SJ and poor animation. When you say ufotable, I say Type-moon. And you can get more detailed then that as there are certain things we connect Sunrise to or Madhouse. They may be stereotypes but there is a certain reality to them just like it is commented on in Shirobako about the CG studio and cars is when you do something well you tend to get the same type of work repeatedly. P.A. Works does such a good job with original stories and great animation that no doubt screenwriters go to them first before anywhere else so the studio probably gets the best pick of stories to choose from. I mean I do not know this for a fact is the way things are in animation but it works that way in my actual line of work. My company does the best work in my region of the USA that we get first pick of jobs to contract and thus get the best jobs before other competing subcontractors do. When some of the universities or companies decide to go with someone else for a job due to a lower bid or just cause they want a different product, 95% of the time they go right back to us for the following jobs due to bad experiences with the other companies. I would assume that when magazines and writers and others go to animation studios, they base their decisions on prior work.
Basically what I am saying is that it may not be a hivemind but that doesn't mean your quality is going to drop from one section of the company to another etc. No company in any line of work is a hivemind but we all have standards and specialties. PA Works may have separate teams and such but I am sure the company/studio itself has set standards that it applies to all things it does. So based on prior work, even with a wide variety of genre that they have done, I do not ignore PA works shows because generally they are well written and well animated (does not mean I end up watching them all, I dropped glasslip because it was very bad and not typical of PA works standards) while I don't bother with Gonzo shows at all anymore because of a long chain of bad work.
Nice clean musical cue at the end by Shiro Hamaguchi.
Before I reply seriously - ouch, paragraphs! This is a huge block of text that is quite difficult to read.
I don't think the screenwriters are the ones going to PA Works with a pitch. Shirobako, for instance, will be Mizushima's pet project given that it's based on his own life experiences; he'll have pitched it to them, and brought on staff he's worked with before (the two scriptwriters, Michiko Yokote and Reiko Yoshida, are not only well known writers in the anime industry but also were his scriptwriters for Witchcraft Works, Joshiraku, Squid Girl etc. etc. - longtime co-workers). It's conceivable he pitched it to other studios, too - he has a good working relationship with JC Staff in recent years - but it's ended up at PA Works, where he has a relationship thanks to Another.
Anime is perhaps peculiar in that most of its truly original series are not developed by scriptwriters but by directors and designers - or even producers. Evangelion was Anno's baby; Utena Ikuhara's. Sunrise's shows are developed by the collaborative nickname of "Hajime Yatate"; infamously Cowboy Bebop was supposed to sell toys with Bandai as a major sponsor saying "as long as there's a spaceship in it, it can be about anything". Given the similarities between many of the PA Works shows you cite in their plots - teenage angst in out-of-the-way towns, give or take a little supernatural influence or weird "hook" such as glassblowing or singing groups - I personally think it's a pet theme of one of the studio's founders, but that is purely conjecture on my part.
I also suspect that PA Works are cheap(er) to work with compared with other anime studios. Most of their production is based out in Nanto in North-West Japan, rather than in Tokyo; presumably this means that salaries are cheaper. Mizushima can do all his planning in Tokyo without being away from the centre of the industry, while the bulk of the work is animated elsewhere.
Although I completely understand your analogy, I have no idea what your actual line of work is but I think you underestimate how "top heavy" creative work can be. Pretty much any creative "visual performance" endeavour will be run with freelancers; talent may sign deals with studios or production companies, but are essentially self-employed. All of the key people who work on things like Shirobako can and will work at almost any studio they choose; just check their credits and you can see this pretty clearly. Now clearly PA Works's grunt staff can produce work of the average standard required for anime production, and there can't be anything massively wrong with their marketing departments etc. - but virtually everything else is essentially contracted out to other people.
I'm not sure if Shirobako is really something Mizushima brought to PA Works. I mean sure, a lot of what's in the show obviously carries some of his own experiences, since he's the director, but there are many things which are also based on PA Work's experiences as a studio. Let's not forget that the founder of PA Works, Kenji Horikawa, is also deeply passionate about sharing the production process of animation with a wider audience. He's been doing it for years now through interviews and blog posts on their website, as well as on Twitter. Shirobako seems like a passionate project for everyone involved in general.
That Dude John
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Not quite.
Though, the protagonist does ascend to her gold and red super form for the fight that takes place in space around the earth next to a satellite that can end the world before she dramatically falls into the atmosphere after winning. However, she survives, unlike Shadow.
If anime isn't dead I'll kill it myself.
That does seem to be one of the grand themes of Shriobako, which I like since I am not the biggest fan of Auteur Theory.
ShinRPGamer
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Actually trying to be a Mecha show without most of the stupid crap plaguing mecha anime nowadays can do wonders for the overall quality of a show.
On a related note, how the Sidonia do sales wise? I know it had to have done well to justify a second season, but i'f like the exact numbers.
There are many more factors in determining a show's success than merely BD and DVD numbers.
Fixed that for you.
ShinRPGamer
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True but It is one more important factors. I just wanted to know how it did on home video is all.
MetroidPrimeRib
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I really don't think Sunrise has a lot to worry about with a poorly selling Gundam series after Unicorn did crazy numbers (beaten only by the Rebuild movies and Michael Jackson's This Is It I think, but Frozen probably beat both of those).
The Origin should do around the same numbers I think.
The Origin should do around the same numbers I think.
Gundam is old and busted. Sunrise is all about recreating that Geass magic now.
Save 'N Quit
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MetroidPrimeRib
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Hell no, Boku will (unfortunately) be done by Toei.
They've been about that. But it's not working and it never will.
eww gross
Joe Molotov
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I was trying to watch the final episode of Seha Girls when it crapped out on me. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Got excited and went there, and they're down again. What's the deal with them being down a lot lately?
I'd sacrifice a hundred Triggers to save one Gonzo.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Must be because Patrick Klepek left Giantbomb.
ThatChairMan
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Or swimming in the Love Live cash.
This means that I'll have to actually watch Hanamonogatari today, ogh.
There are several more Monogatari stories to come!
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