So you get hung up on one word and think it's okay for people to crap on a entire fan base because that person doesn't like it. Some people are Fanboys and really enjoy something, and people wonder why they get crazy when people come at them and tell them they are wrong for liking it.
Fantastic Four Trailer # 1
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So you get hung up on one word and think it's okay for people to crap on a entire fan base because that person doesn't like it. Some people are Fanboys and really enjoy something, and people wonder why they get crazy when people come at them and tell them they are wrong for liking it.
Mix Master
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the civil war was a good event imo
I'm feeling like the blogger thing was a red herring.
It seems so obvious in reflection. And seeing the tone of the trailer I can't see the film allowing for a vengeful angry internet person as the antagonist. Someone involved in the production, perhaps even the Doom actor himself, probably just got the idea to fuck with fans.
Pai Pai Master
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it's just a lot more vague. the teaser is pretty serious but there's no telling if the whole movie is going to be like that. it's not inherently a bad direction for them to go in though.
DonasaurusRex
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what the hell?
TWS was text book captain america that movie is how his book runs were from the 60's to present , they mined the material not ignored it and branded a film with "capt america"
Dragonborn
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All in all, it was better than that crappy Ant Man trailer. Kinda looking forward to it now.
Pai Pai Master
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seriously TWS looked and felt very similar to the comic it was adapted from.
putting superheroes in various genres isn't a new concept...writers have been doing it for decades.
I'll agree, Any-Man looked like ass. Hopefully the next trailer does a better job of showing what the movie really is.
If Fox had made Captain America-his costume would not have been Red, White and Blue-it would be black leather with a star. He wouldn't have been from World War 2, but instead some recent Middle East War. The Red Skull would be the evil president of the Hydra Pharmaceutical company.
This is disturbingly accurate.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I like the shot of Johnny going afire.
Doesn't feel superheroic or epic. Just kinda creepy.
Doesn't feel superheroic or epic. Just kinda creepy.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Well, that's....not that bad of a teaser trailer.
Big Baybee
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lol
zoleristec
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Zen_Arcade
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The problem with this example is that there were decades of comic books that shaped how the Fantastic Four were before Marvel Ruins happened. No one is going to get mad that they created a miniseries with a different tone when there were thirty years of Fantastic Four comics, and knowing that that series wasn't stopping any time soon. But with the movies, if they keep making adaptations that are bad there might not be a chance to get a really good faithful adaptation ever. Especially if it fails at the box office. Then we will have to wait another 10 years for them to dig out the franchise again, and hope that they don't keep trying to make the Fantastic Four something different.
There hasn't been one good Fantastic Four movie that tried to be a faithful adaptation of the comic. It would be different if the first two movies were faithful adaptations that failed financially (Because at least then there would be a good argument for "People have seen a faithful adaptation and haven't liked it.") or actually did well. But as it is, people that are fans of Fantastic Four got two shitty attempts and a third attempt that doesn't even look like it's wants to be a Fantastic Four movie in the first place.
And like I said, there are plenty of comic books that already have the concepts you're looking for. Street level heroes are great for that kind of intimacy and social commentary. People's problem with this movie being like that is that the Fantastic Four is not the book for that. I'm not even disagreeing that the concepts you're talking about are interesting and worth exploring, I'm saying those ideas are a terrible fit for this movie if you want a faithful adaptation. Especially when you think about how many characters they could apply those concepts to without fucking up what people love about the characters in the first place.
Marc
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Perfectly sums up what this movie is.
Fox has a property to milk, no one there knows about comics and is embarrassed when they go on wikipedia and read random lines. So they throw that shit out the window and ask the makers to film it "real" and "not superhero'y". Just don't understand why people bother to make this stuff, if you don't like the source material... like at all... then make something else.
This looks like a very interesting film, it looks like a fucking awful Fant4stick movie. So just make a new property.
The Atticus
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Lol
Why do you guys paint yourselves into a corner
Why do you guys paint yourselves into a corner
freenudemacusers
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you haven't watch the ant-man trailer yet
Shining Sunshine
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f4nt45t1c f0ur
Future Foundation
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This makes no sense. They're doing an interpretation that's not even all that different from the source they're adapting (hell, there's a shot in the trailer that looks like an extension of this portion of the UFF comic), they're "milking a property they don't get".
Zen_Arcade
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This is a ridiculous statement. If I don't like the fact that they're being liberal with the source material of the movie (Or more accurately, they chose one of the worst FF series to adapt), and I want the movie to be like the source material, why is it stupid to view it that way? It's not like it's impossible for them to make a movie that is a faithful adaptation of the 616 Fantastic Four. They made a choice, and the choice they made is open to criticism like any other choice they would make for the movie. It isn't suddenly invalid because they never wanted to make it that way. Especially when I feel like part of the problem is the fact that they made that choice in the first place.
If they announced they were making a movie based on a sitcom, and you got there and the movie was a depressing drama, it's perfectly valid to ask "Why isn't this a comedy like the TV show?"
I also don't agree that the most important thing is if the movie is good. The only reason I care about the movie is because I like the comic book, and if the movie isn't like the comic book, I don't care about the movie. If this didn't have the Fantastic Four name on it in the first place I wouldn't even be paying attention. I didn't like Chronicle and this doesn't look any more interesting.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Ugh I fucking hate ultimate lol
They've made it clear for a while that the film wasn't going to be a close adaptation. Michael B. Jordan should have been a huge warning sign. The choice they've made has nothing to do with the quality of the work by itself.
As for the sitcom, my concern would be whether it's good or not. If it's depressing, so what? It's a good work.
The Lone Courier
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It looked like an Interstellar trailer.
Marc
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Since when is Ultimate comics the source material? They were made for kids, idiots or people who haven't got time to catch up. They are dumbed down to the extreme. Same problem 'Amazing' Spider-Man had, trying too hard to make it an Ultimate version.
Ignoring that argument though, you are actually saying this movie is not all that different? You watched that trailer and thought "Yeah, that's F4 all over"? C'mon.
GringoSuave89
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Makes sense, since they're trying to go all Cronenberg with it, and not comic book-y.
Nah ami
Were you disappointed in Nolanman after these shows/films?
In addition the James Bond franchise has successfully undergone a similar transformation. I agree it'd be nice if Fantastic Four could find a family fun tone like The Incredibles however considering the guy from Chronicle is directing this...it will probably be good but dark.
I thought F4 comics sales were plummeting, but then again even decent sales doesn't stop adaptations from being their own
Hard to argue against this when Dr. Doom is an anti-social blogger in this F4 movie. Like someone else said, it's clear Fox is embarrassed of the source material, whereas Marvel Studios embraces it.
And people wonder why comic fans freak when anyone uses Ultimate Marvel as inspiration.
Future Foundation
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Since that interview with the writer and director of the movie came out yesterday and both said they were adapting the fucking book for the movie. In fact, that's been known for fucking MONTHS.
And yes, I am saying it's not all that different - to the material they're adapting. Just because its material you like doesn't mean it's not faithful to it.
There is a very specific reason why this drama isn't like that sitcom, but people are deciding to ignore that reason so they can yell some more.
After the Sony hacks it made a villainous blogger living in a hermit kingdom that much more believable. Although it could be misdirection since the teaser didn't tease that?
Zen_Arcade
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Oh I know, I've been anticipating it being bad for a while. And for some people it does. For some people, the only pull into the movie is that it's supposed to be an adaptation of something they already like. I don't care about the director, I don't care for the dumb tone they're setting, it seems boring. If that pull is severed by changing what they like, they don't care anymore. It might be a decent movie, but I don't care because the main thing that interests me about the movie in the first place isn't being utilized and it looks like something I have no interest in. It seems to be using a vague outline of what I enjoy filled out with a bunch of stuff that looks completely boring.
Also, it's fine that you wouldn't care about them completely changing the movie from the sitcom, but it also shouldn't be hard to understand why people who wanted a movie like the TV show they love are disappointed and don't care about the movie. Especially when they keep making movies of said sitcom over and over and feel that they keep missing the point.
Because it's the Ultimate Fantastic Four?
Thank you. I thought I might be the only one getting that vibe.
EDIT: Now going back and seeing all the other Interstellar comments I missed. Glad it wasn't just me.
Discotheque
Banned
similar speech and the cornfield scene.
i quite like this trailer until that corny ending line from doom.
trailer in summary
random tracking shots of wilderness, mountains, buildings, cities
somber voice over with writing so laughable it would not make it into a Ultimate Fantastic Four fanfiction
images of people's faces looking really concerned at the camera
trademark experiment gone wrong scene
few brief glimpses of anything even remotely superheroic
Even if the guy writing this movie wasn't a joke character, I'd feel really bad after seeing this junk
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