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Fighting Games Weekly | Dec 22-28 | On the Xrd Day of Christmas
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IIRC, he outright said during the GGPO tourney at Halloween that Anak was the most interesting character and that he just enjoyed winning with him
. I could be misremembering slightly though; a lot of people like Hunter just for Pyron/Huitzil/Donovan too.
Tizoc
Member
yEAH they added 2 extra characters recently to the roster.
toddhunter
Member
He made some excellent progress towards that at the Capcom cup.
KidA Seven
Member
A Japanese rap group called the Daigosu
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Also, Bonchan said on twitter that Daigo is recruiting El Fuerte users to practice with. Looks like he's getting ready for Pepedai at Canada Cup Masters Series.
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Also, Bonchan said on twitter that Daigo is recruiting El Fuerte users to practice with. Looks like he's getting ready for Pepedai at Canada Cup Masters Series.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
For some reason this reminds me of the Lucky Chloe thread blowup.
Yeah, didn't think they would go that far since tutorials generally leave that sort of terminology to the community to explain.
I also like how they have multiple character specific exercises to go through if you want to learn how to play against a particular character.
Still waiting on that netplay patch. :/
LOL the GG tutorial actually teaches you how to option select throws
Yeah, didn't think they would go that far since tutorials generally leave that sort of terminology to the community to explain.
I also like how they have multiple character specific exercises to go through if you want to learn how to play against a particular character.
Still waiting on that netplay patch. :/
I really want to grab the plushie from the Pokemon Center MegaTokyo store myself (the one on the left below):
Still haven't found a character that clicks with me in Guilty Gear quite yet. Faust, May, and Ky are the ones I've been messing around with. I also like Elphelt and Bedman's playstyles.
Karsticles
Member
I like how much Elphelt's boobs bounce, and her reload mechanic is pretty fricken cool. Most of the characters have cool playstyles. Bedman's echo mechanic is really interesting. I don't plan on leaving Zato, though. He is like Dormammu with Firebrand unblockables.I really want to grab the plushie from the Pokemon Center MegaTokyo store myself (the one on the left below):
Still haven't found a character that clicks with me in Guilty Gear quite yet. Faust, May, and Ky are the ones I've been messing around with. I also like Elphelt and Bedman's playstyles.
I actually won a match with him yesterday. Today I never left training mode. I spent hours there learning his neutral and getting negative edging down.
Was not expecting Elphelt to be so fun considering how super *ANIME* her design is. The reload mechanic is fantastic.I like how much Elphelt's boobs bounce, and her reload mechanic is pretty fricken cool. Most of the characters have cool playstyles. Bedman's echo mechanic is really interesting. I don't plan on leaving Zato, though. He is like Dormammu with Firebrand unblockables.
Yeah Zato is really cool, I figured he'd be your type of character.
Karsticles
Member
^you know it.
I love Elphelt's waifu theme. I just wish we got translations during taunts. She says a lot of stuff, and I don't feel like swapping languages around just to know.
I just pick whoever looks the most harass. Like Bowser and Dormammu, Zato is pure metal. Blanka...is metal after years of drug addiction.
I love Elphelt's waifu theme. I just wish we got translations during taunts. She says a lot of stuff, and I don't feel like swapping languages around just to know.
Er, so you just master Zato for kicks?! :O
Rubbing salt in the wound. I bought it because of their promised netplay patch, too! I shall not remember you fondly, chaos code.
I'd say Ky and Zato are my best two right now maybe? I've been mostly using Slayer, Potemkin, I-No, Venom, and Elphelt against local friends and some online friends. They're either new or just never played GG that much compared to other games.
Potemkin's so bad, but I love the guy. I just wish he was as good and fun as he was in AC for me.
Potemkin's YRC shenanigans are pretty fun though.
No WNF because they're moving locations. (And there won't be any for at least 2-3 more weeks after this I believe)
BC not sure.
So Eventhubs finally gets around to posting some GG Xrd stuff and basically comes out and says, this game isn't popular enough for us to cover but here, we'll throw you freaks a bone.
Which is funny to me because part of a game building up hype, up to, and beyond release, is the very coverage they are denying the game. How can the game build buzz if they don't even mention the fact that it was released?
Additionally, for a site that regularly posts stories about fighting games skilled players, and their dedication and talent, it's pretty much a slap in the face to not have any coverage of the Xrd players that are coming out for the tournament, like Ogawa, ect al. They aren't worthy of being talked about, the talentless freaks.
Street Fighter is, and always will be my favorite series, but how many hour long videos do we need of people dissecting the tiny bit of footage we have of SF5? Apparently not enough if eventhubs is anything to go by. "A new GG came out? Is fun and looks amazing? Fuck it, lets report on something else"... This site claims to represent the F. G. C.
For some reason this really set me off. They won't post about it unless there is interest, but they need interest to post about it. :/
Fuck Eventhubs.
Edit.
Nice to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Which is funny to me because part of a game building up hype, up to, and beyond release, is the very coverage they are denying the game. How can the game build buzz if they don't even mention the fact that it was released?
Additionally, for a site that regularly posts stories about fighting games skilled players, and their dedication and talent, it's pretty much a slap in the face to not have any coverage of the Xrd players that are coming out for the tournament, like Ogawa, ect al. They aren't worthy of being talked about, the talentless freaks.
Street Fighter is, and always will be my favorite series, but how many hour long videos do we need of people dissecting the tiny bit of footage we have of SF5? Apparently not enough if eventhubs is anything to go by. "A new GG came out? Is fun and looks amazing? Fuck it, lets report on something else"... This site claims to represent the F. G. C.
For some reason this really set me off. They won't post about it unless there is interest, but they need interest to post about it. :/
Fuck Eventhubs.
Edit.
Nice to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Huw_Dawson
Member
EH is an American modern Capcom (SF4, MvC3) FGC news website that throws a bone to other communities and scenes on occasion.
You get a wider variety of coverage on SRK, but that website is functionally broken.
I really should just do news work for my JetUpper site and cover everything fairly.
You get a wider variety of coverage on SRK, but that website is functionally broken.
I really should just do news work for my JetUpper site and cover everything fairly.
I think the way to get EH to cover Xrd is to basically tell them that you don't want them to cover it, and if you make Xrd videos, let them know that you don't want your videos on their site under any circumstances. Before you know it, the site will be full of Xrd videos and they'll be getting your name wrong at best and taking credit for your videos while banning you for posting corrections in the comments at worst. Let them keep covering SF5 imo.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
It became very apparent to me that something was off with GGXrd when I saw the first public playable state of the game outside of Japan at E3. Two demo units and few were playing, which really upset me as GG and GGX was easily a couple of my favorite games in the early 2000's.
Speaking with the reps, I was able to get an interview with Daisuke and get a variety of questions answered, however I was still fairly worried about the success of the game and not its quality. Sony had released almost zero information about the title's existence outside of those playable demos. And now after launch, I felt like it was 1998 all over again, with random games arriving on a system with no marketing outside of a magazine review. Made a few videos, really wanted people to know why the series is good, and haven't had a chance to do more as I'm waiting for the online to function properly.
The success of Xrd will solely lie in word of mouth sales, and the positive reviews from major websites(strictly talking about industry 'success', not how many people fill a bracket).
Professor Beef
Banned
Who gives a shit about an ASW game anyways
nobody important, that's who
nobody important, that's who
call_kotaku
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
No, seriously, who in the FGC is even talking about Turd anyways? Like, actually important to the scene, and not famewhores like Jiyuna.
We've had run ins with EHubs and Persona content. I would just write them off at this point, bad site is bad. SRK does a little bit better, but sometimes I see meh to bad SF4 videos get up there while good content for smaller games gets passed up. Not saying they don't try at SRK, but they could be a bit better. Over on Dustloop we wanted to get our front page going but we're poverty and just focus on the forum. I was wanting to get stuff going, but I'm kinda done with the FGC at large for the moment, so my eyes haven't been on it.
Professor Beef reminds me why I don't even read these threads anymore. See you guys next week I guess.
Professor Beef reminds me why I don't even read these threads anymore. See you guys next week I guess.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
I personally love the game. Shows how the GG formula works extremely well for a fast paced 1v1. Streamed it as highlight game on six separate streams, each with an average of 4,000 viewers, and 4 of them was attempting to manage the horrendous online until I gave up. Refuse to make videos for Xrd until the netcode is better than an average 7-9 frame delay, while a ton of other fighting games now run amazing online. Waiting on the 2nd netcode update to make a proper review vid.
call_kotaku
Member
Is Fchamp the only person important to the scene?
Professor Beef
Banned
I haven't given him attention in nearly a year.
Now look what you've done, Beef.
call_kotaku
Member
So are you the only person important to the scene?
Actually, am I about to be hit with some sort of shitposting option select? I just realized I've never read any of Beef's posts before so I don't know if he's serious
Professor Beef
Banned
Bye, Anne.
Who said I was important to the scene? You should learn to read.
And I'm half-joking, half-serious. Who important is actually talking about Xrd? Because aside from this thread, I've only heard about the netcode problems.
EDIT: And this is including the hype train that most of you were on when it was announced. Now it's just the usual 2-3 people talking about it. What even happened?
Who said I was important to the scene? You should learn to read.
And I'm half-joking, half-serious. Who important is actually talking about Xrd? Because aside from this thread, I've only heard about the netcode problems.
EDIT: And this is including the hype train that most of you were on when it was announced. Now it's just the usual 2-3 people talking about it. What even happened?
Lostconfused
Member
This might shock some but the better conversations about games happen in their OTs than in here. This shit is straight up community you all, should be renamed to Twitch Streaming/Viewing Weekly.
Now for some actual content to this post. So I am going through the GOTY thread looking for some game ideas since I am bored and I ran into this gem http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=143663029&postcount=390
Sure hope he got those edits in.
call_kotaku
Member
All the CPM fiends, all the anime players, a couple of marvel players, Justin 'n friends, all the "GG veterans", etc are all playing it and talking about it. Whether they'll stick with it is unknown but the game has plenty of interest. USF4 update, smash, and Xrd are the big 3 things right now as far as I can tell. Plus as someone else mentioned the Xrd OT is active as well.
I thought that kind of drive by shitposting wasn't allowed at GAF, so I was wondering if it's some sort of in-joke
I'm actually curious about this as well. The game came out at a weird time for me, I've never given any anime game (sans Marvel) a serious shot, and I wanted to with this. But I don't have a PS3/4 stick, and even though it probably runs fine on PS3 I'd want to play it on PS4 which I won't have for a couple of months. And since I'm just seeing absolutely no one talk about it except for scattered random posts in here I'd assume that in 2-3 months it would be absolutely dead so I probably wouldn't even bother at that point. Would honestly love to be proven wrong.
Coffeeling
Member
Raw twitch reaction (=no processing, reaction to anything at all happening) is about 11-12 frames or so. If you have to actually process what's going on the process slows down dramatically and the reaction takes about 18-20 frames minimum.
This or similar is what I'll be aspiring towards as well. The character crisis is so annoying. Faust lacks damage and isn't as aggressive as I'd hope, Millia movement is swell but I like those "this space is MINE" buttons Faust has, Elph kills my ears. The only real out is to suck it up and put the work into Zato, even though I abhor the idea of being a cripple for ages before I grok Zato-Eddie interplay and get the muscle memory. But I guess working on something definite beats wracking my poor head over what to play ad nauseam.
Lostconfused
Member
Well that's the entire point of practice and knowing what to look for and habits. It can really help out with your reaction time and decision making process.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
For NY east coast members of FGC. There's this place that just opened up called the Crazy Gamer Dome. It's located on middle country road in Selden. I can't wait for him to start some fighting game tournaments. They have a facebook page aswell, I'd check it out if your in the area. Could be a good spot for some upcoming tournaments.
I do too!
You've already set up anyone who answers for dismissal; "important" is so subjective that you can easily dismiss any response out-of-hand.
The announcement-Arcade-JP Release-America Release cycle from ASW is a huge problem. There's more competition for them now from other titles, and by the time we get a game, there's a new version coming out in Japan that we have to watch for months on end.
The netcode issues have put me off even trying the game casually- I'm essentially in "I'll pick it up if it comes to PC" mode right now.
The netcode issues have put me off even trying the game casually- I'm essentially in "I'll pick it up if it comes to PC" mode right now.
Weird post coming from you, considering half your posts about the game are either you complaining about its hardcore nature or the netcode problems and threatening not to stick with it.
But yeah, while I'm frustrated and annoyed by Xrd's lack of uptake, it's not unexpected, even though I'm still somewhat surprised by it. Mostly because I set my expectations to a bare minimum and assumed there was no way this game wouldn't be more popular than +R, at the very least. But it looks like if it's more popular than +R; it will be, barely.
Just like GGXX, when that released, I find it an absolute mindfuck that a fighting game can exist that looks this amazing, and plays this amazing, and lack popularity. But information is so much more accessible today, than it was back in 2001, so I refuse to believe it's just that the word never got out there.
Xrd is the fucking truth. It's already the FG of the gen for me. As much as I'd prefer to focus on SFIV, only because that makes more goddamned sense; Xrd is a fighting gamer's fighting game. It's fucking Guilty Gear. REAL frame traps, REAL pressure, REAL oki, REAL knowledge to digest beyond set-play encounters... the game just feels thoroughly rewarding and satisfying. Something few fighting games this gen managed to nail (absolutely none of them Capcom games).
In the passed day or so, I may have become obsessed with it. Didn't think that would ever happen with a fighting game again.
I still want to play SFIV, also, but right now, my goal in Xrd is to learn just as much as I can about every character. Gonna be in a vortex for awhile.
Damn
SRK is supposed to be a Capcom site, I don't really blame it for being SF-centric.
They've been a better job recently giving non-Capcom games back in the old days they actively and intentionally disrespected them.
As for Xrd, the reason it isn't popular is because I don't think FGs that appear on the surface to be overly complex will ever be popular. Takes too much work to get to the fun stuff, and you can get the fun stuff without the complexity if the design is done well enough. Also, I think Arc's business model hurts them, they've gouged the American consumer a bit too much with Blazblue. At least Capcom had the sense to make their post-Super annual updates affordable.
I have my own reasons for disliking GG completely, but I try not to say too much unless someone tries to shove GG down my throat, which has happened in the past.
Coffeeling
Member
I hear strawberries are healthy.
Kind of annoyed in how ASW treats PC ports too. The gap between BlazBlue CT and CS console version to PC versions is pretty sad. And there's no Chrono Phantasma in sight.