U n i o n 0015
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It's on my list, but I generally don't pay $60 for PC games. $40 and lower, sure.
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Final Fantasy 16 Extremely Underperformed On PC; Sold Only 289K Units Since Launch
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Wishful thinking.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Sad, but true.
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joeygreco1985
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Well the year later release schedule doesn't help. Square wouldn't even put a date on the PC version. If you were remotely interested in FF16 how many people would wait an unknown amount of time for the PC version?
Having said that, I was one of those people who waited and purchased on PC. I enjoyed it, finished the main game. 7/10 final fantasy
Having said that, I was one of those people who waited and purchased on PC. I enjoyed it, finished the main game. 7/10 final fantasy
Zacfoldor
Member
See now this is the reason us playstation pro gamers set the zeitgeist.
PC gamers, here you are. Found you. Buy a 2000 dollar gaming rig to play the humble bundle game from 1998 for 2 cents a license or just "preserve" a new Nintendo game by emulating it then get on here and try to convince me to "upgrade" to PC. Sheeeeeet...
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Most day 1 games on PC are between 40$ and 50$ bucks if you know where to get them.
See now this is the reason us playstation pro gamers set the zeitgeist.
PC gamers, here you are. Found you. Buy a 2000 dollar gaming rig to play the humble bundle game from 1998 for 2 cents a license or just "preserve" a new Nintendo game by emulating it then get on here and try to convince me to "upgrade" to PC. Sheeeeeet...
Plus you have to understand. People that have been playing on PC for years have tons of games at their disposal, there's no really a need for getting a game on release unless you are very hyped about it.
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TheChumpNation
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The PS5 sales had a strong start based on hype, and then quickly fell off as people realized the game wasn't great.
(fwiw I agree with the description that it's a mediocre to poor game punctuated with some of the coolest moments in gaming I've ever experienced)
Releasing a year after the hype was really not a good call for this title. It's performance on console is crap - I would have bought on PC instead had that been an option.
(fwiw I agree with the description that it's a mediocre to poor game punctuated with some of the coolest moments in gaming I've ever experienced)
Releasing a year after the hype was really not a good call for this title. It's performance on console is crap - I would have bought on PC instead had that been an option.
U n i o n 0015
Member
See now this is the reason us playstation pro gamers set the zeitgeist.
PC gamers, here you are. Found you. Buy a 2000 dollar gaming rig to play the humble bundle game from 1998 for 2 cents a license or just "preserve" a new Nintendo game by emulating it then get on here and try to convince me to "upgrade" to PC. Sheeeeeet...
Yeah well, I can skip intro videos in my PC games.
ConkerTheSquirrel.
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After a year, people who wanted to play it, already played it, or watched it on Stream or YouTube.
Give an incentive to buy on PC, like exclusive content or something.
Give an incentive to buy on PC, like exclusive content or something.
DenchDeckard
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
FF16 is a very bad main line FF and for the future of FF it's good that it bombed.
CoreyFlawless
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3mil first week on ps. So ps love mid and must not have games
xenosys
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Not too surprising. I expected something between 200-400K, and it'll probably do around a million over the next few years. Even GoW : Ragnarok, which came in with a lot more hype this year, looks like it's done around 300-400k based on the analytics.
You need to launch AAA titles on Steam D1 to capitalise on hype and momentum.
I imagine Rebirth will probably do similar numbers when it comes out, maybe a little more based on it getting more positive coverage and reviewing better this year.
Sony and Square Enix have had a good relationship over the last couple of decades, but Square's refusal to cut the cord with them 5-10 years ago will probably cost them a boatload of Final Fantasy $$$, at least until XVII gets released.
You need to launch AAA titles on Steam D1 to capitalise on hype and momentum.
I imagine Rebirth will probably do similar numbers when it comes out, maybe a little more based on it getting more positive coverage and reviewing better this year.
Sony and Square Enix have had a good relationship over the last couple of decades, but Square's refusal to cut the cord with them 5-10 years ago will probably cost them a boatload of Final Fantasy $$$, at least until XVII gets released.
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Lambogenie
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A very skippable game, sadly. Even the weird love for Benn Starr people have doesn't make this worth playing.
Hrk69
Member
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Hey I am not here to argue. It's ok you didn't like it.
I realize it's a specific game for smooth brained individuals. I just played it like if it was dragon ball z
PixelatedBeast
Member
This is revisionist history like fuck, lol. Spiderman alone sold close to 30 million copies on ps4/ps5. Its the highest selling superhero game of all time, and elements from the game appeared in two different Spiderman movies. Your opinion if you like the game is subjective, but its far from average.
Edit; I guess you cant argue against facts.
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Hrk69
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TheStam
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Delayed releases on PC at full price won't work. Single player games can sell great if they are good and released in a timely fashion. There is a ridiculous amount of games to choose from as it is on PC, I feel like people don't get this. The only ones who seem to get away with delayed releases are Rockstar. No one else has an IP like that.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It's 50$ on steam.
Was 70$ on ps5. It's not full price
T4keD0wN
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Mostly bots. Game lets you sell stuff which is why it has such large numbers.
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TheStam
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Even then it's obviously not enough of a discount looking at their underwhelming sales figues. My main point is though, staggered releases aren't a good idea and Square Enix have talked about releasing games simultaneously on PC in the future. You gotta ride that release hype.
Madflavor
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I dunno. If DQIII Remake actually ends up outselling Rebirth and XVI, I don't see how that doesn't open their eyes.
Fbh
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Horizon sold 4 million over several years, not right away. And it got a ton of coverage and notoriety because as far as I remember it was the first of these big Playstation exclusives to make the jump to PC.
But yes, good games will still sell even if they launch later. And if FFXVI had been an amazing game with really good word of mouth instead of an ok casual action game wrapped around a mediocre RPG I'm sure it would have done much better on PC.
But be it a good game that ended up selling well or and average one that didn't, I still think every game that came to PC 1+ years later would have seen stronger numbers if it had launched on PC day 1.
In some way a game like XVI would have benefited even more from day 1 release, because by the time the hype and excitement died down and people realized it's not that good it would have probably sold a decent amount of copies already. Instead it came to PC when everyone had already had that realization.
It launched at $49.99
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
At this point it's not about the price anymore. Thing was 40$ on cdkeys day1 on pc and still is.
Hype was over, FF fans gave it bad rep and damage was done.
Strange because I remember very positive reviews and reactions when the game released. Everyone seemed surprised how good it was.
It's kinda bioshock infinite situation maybe? Like, when it released, everyone was shocked how good it was and now everyone shits on it.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Maybe it was but it's such a good game. I think it's better than 16.
I actually cried on the ending lol
jburdick7
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I bought it on PC and kinda wish I’d waited. The port really isn’t that good (I’ve had tons of crashing, mostly in the end game but one cutscene in the middle of the game always crashed and made me have to skip the entire cinematic) and features like unlocked cutscenes & ultrawide need a mod. Add in that you need a pretty beefy rig to get decent performance and it’s not super conducive to high sales early on.
I wouldn’t say the game itself is bad it’s just aggressively average and clearly made to appeal to as broad an audience as possible. That’s not a BAD thing in some regards (the story, characters, and voice acting are great) but it really, really hampers it in others (the combat starts fun but gets really monotonous halfway through, the dialogue is all over the place, especially with the swearing, and on the whole the game is just way, way too easy).
Launching at $40 w/out DLC or $60 with all DLC was a good idea and the average parts of the game are easy enough to cover up from prospective buyers but I think not really giving anyone a reason to buy it on PC besides “it’s no longer a ps5 exclusive!” hurt it.
I’ll still probably buy Rebirth when it comes to PC but I really hope they put a little more effort into it than they did XVI.
I wouldn’t say the game itself is bad it’s just aggressively average and clearly made to appeal to as broad an audience as possible. That’s not a BAD thing in some regards (the story, characters, and voice acting are great) but it really, really hampers it in others (the combat starts fun but gets really monotonous halfway through, the dialogue is all over the place, especially with the swearing, and on the whole the game is just way, way too easy).
Launching at $40 w/out DLC or $60 with all DLC was a good idea and the average parts of the game are easy enough to cover up from prospective buyers but I think not really giving anyone a reason to buy it on PC besides “it’s no longer a ps5 exclusive!” hurt it.
I’ll still probably buy Rebirth when it comes to PC but I really hope they put a little more effort into it than they did XVI.
AmuroChan
Member
I agree. I don't think day 1 release matters as much as people make it out to be. Sea of Thieves sold great on PS and it's a 5 year old game. GTA6 won't be day 1 on PC, but I guarantee it will still sell millions of copies on PC when it eventually makes it over there.
Hrk69
Member
Same here. The moment when you see the photos and memories you created together was truly incredible.
U n i o n 0015
Member
For the plebe base edition, which frankly shouldn't even count. Complete Edition or GTFO!
Love all the excuses PC gamers make when a game sells poorly on steam. As if every thread on this game wasn’t chock full of bros salivating and reminding everyone they were going to wait for the steam release. How late ports are not a problem since they have such a huge backlog and so much else to play. Oh wait nvm. Now PC gamers suddenly can’t wait more than a single day and won’t buy a game unless they get in on the initial marketing hype so of course it didn’t sell!
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DavidGzz
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Yep, nothing like launch hype to pump numbers up. The honeymoon period ends for console gamers who tell people it really wasn't very good and word of mouth spreads and you end up with crap sales. Making better games helps too. Bloodborne wouldn't have these issues on PC even today.
Pejo
Gold Member
I'm gonna buy it on sale someday. When a game releases over 3 months past the console release, what's the rush? Where's the hype? They used to fish for double dippers with this strategy but I think with so many games being released and the general quickness that games go on sale, anybody can rationalize that it's probably better to continue waiting a few months and pick it up cheaper.
I'm sure the diehards and the people that were super hyped and big fans of the series were part of the 200k~. Everybody else just has patience/smaller gaming budgets/don't like S-E's output/whatever the reason. Would a day 1 release boost sales? Of course it would, but there's plenty of other reasons why people haven't picked it up yet.
I'm sure the diehards and the people that were super hyped and big fans of the series were part of the 200k~. Everybody else just has patience/smaller gaming budgets/don't like S-E's output/whatever the reason. Would a day 1 release boost sales? Of course it would, but there's plenty of other reasons why people haven't picked it up yet.
CosmicComet
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Sad. Honestly it's my favorite FF all time.
Clive is my favorite FF protag ever.
Clive is my favorite FF protag ever.
Donald mac Ronald
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Both square and Sony need to learn if you're going after the pc market the need to release same time as console just for the hype buys alone. Pc players don't like to wait years for a half assed port. By then they've moved on to other games.
Ff16 would have sold a million at least plus same whatever it sold on console of it launched same as console.
Also FF brand just isn't what it used to be. Nobody is buying a console just to play FF. Far to much choice.
Ff16 would have sold a million at least plus same whatever it sold on console of it launched same as console.
Also FF brand just isn't what it used to be. Nobody is buying a console just to play FF. Far to much choice.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
One is a live service game and the other one is GTA. Why ignore the countless examples and use obvious exceptions?
//DEVIL//
Member
The audacity these companies have …
They release a game years later on another platform without any major enhancement , asking high price, and they want them to sell.
Sony is the same shit. That’s why all their new releases on PC are barely selling.
The words fucking idiots doesn’t cut it sadly
They release a game years later on another platform without any major enhancement , asking high price, and they want them to sell.
Sony is the same shit. That’s why all their new releases on PC are barely selling.
The words fucking idiots doesn’t cut it sadly
Mercador
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Ah! That's why then I think; if your FF references are limited to those recent titles, I totally understand why you liked them that much. Nothing wrong about that but it could explain why your perception of the game is different from old folks like me that played the complete series. As a DMC type of game, FFXVI is sure a flashy thing. But it's not a Final Fantasy per se, from my point of view.
For me, the golden age of Final Fantasy were IV, V and VI. FFX and FFVII were incredibly popular at that time. FFXIV is still a seriously popular MMO. But even FFXV had a bit of JRPG into it. FFXVI is an impressive visual game but it's even more linear than FFXIII. They tried to spin the dark and gritty medieval theme, but like 10 years too late. I think they don't know where to go next. I think this is the first time in the series that we don't have any information on the next one, 18 months after the release of the most recent title. Heck, I remember playing FFXII in a E3 booth while seeing FFXV and FFXV versus trailers the same very morning. We're way beyond that point unfortunately.
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