I admire them for wanting to relaunch the game, but MMOs don't get second chances. Initial impressions make a lasting impression on the game as a whole, word of mouth spreads and that word of mouth becomes ingrained and synonymous with the MMO in question. FFXIV being the worst offender in the history of big MMOs.
Final Fantasy XIV 2.0 plans announced (PS3 in Q1 2013, Sub Fees Return This November)
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Thoraxes said:
ok that's cool, thanks for the info. I play the game on and off when i'm bored, so i guess as long as i don't play it during the subscription they would still keep my account, characters and not suddenly start charging. Also, i remember they used some really weird online charging site that was used for online gambling, that sort of thing, can't even remember my login for that lol.
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Although I understand the decision to start billing for the game, as they have to somehow make money, I think they've chosen a weird moment for that - I guess it'll be around 1.20, but many players will probably want to wait until the 2.0 version.
Although I understand the decision to start billing for the game, as they have to somehow make money, I think they've chosen a weird moment for that - I guess it'll be around 1.20, but many players will probably want to wait until the 2.0 version.
One other thing does strike me, having thought further: PS3 in 2013? Isn't that... not a good time to release a game that's going to be reliant on a long-term stable platform?
Let's hope Sony stick with backwards compatability this time! At least it should be easier than PS2-on-PS3 was.
Let's hope Sony stick with backwards compatability this time! At least it should be easier than PS2-on-PS3 was.
Metalmurphy
Member
Why charge for submissions before 2.0 if they basically admit the game is incomplete at the moment?
I sure won't be paying for it in this state.
I sure won't be paying for it in this state.
Shutting down the servers until 2.0 would make them lose more players than starting subscriptions again will, or so I think.hteng said:
Anyway, according to this:
The 2.0 for the PC will be out sometime in November if I read this right. Post-January is only (in case of PC) for the new version retail distribution.
Jira said:
To be honest, FF XIV is now uncharted territory. There is no precedence for this situation. I have my doubts this will work out of course, but the efforts of Yoshida has been really, really remarkable.
I have been lurking for some time the FFXIV thread and considering to give it a try. I was really hyped for it pre-launch but I had to hold out reading the apocalyptic beta impressions.
I may consider subscribing a few months to check it out and then wait until 2.0. So at least all that effort has served to keep me interested in the game.
should still be free and use this time to test things out.This will be the final nail in the coffin.There isn't many playing now and I guarantee you as soon as subs go up 3/4 of those people are gone.This should be free till 2.0 to iron things out then re-roll at 2.0 and start fresh.
DanielJr82
Member
2013? I guess I can wait, there's a bunch of stuff coming out until then.
If they stay true to the roadmap they published, I can see them timing it with the release of 1.21 in early December despite Wada's comments to reinstate late Nov.- early Dec.kiryogi said:
Everything would just work out way better that way.
Also to the other guy, there's no way they'll re-roll everything. Yoshida has been asked a lot about this, and said that he will pretty much do everything he can to make that not happen. He said that characters that the players make are important parts of them and their investment in the game, and pretty much deleting them to make you start all over would be a slap in the face to what he wants to bring to the game and to his own design philosophy.
The user base is already very small, maybe 10-20k stick around for sub fees at best (10k-20k is probably overestimated..) , they are not going to make much money from these people, surely Square Enix can afford a few million dollars for a year... this just further ruins the game's reputation and nothing else.Thoraxes said:
If 2.0 came out tomorrow i doubt it will save them, the games reputation is in tatters. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.
I know alot of you guys don't care about Metacritic, but alot of people see that 49 and will ignore the game altogether. I assume the only reason people are playing is because its been free up until this point.
I know alot of you guys don't care about Metacritic, but alot of people see that 49 and will ignore the game altogether. I assume the only reason people are playing is because its been free up until this point.
This is Square Enix. They need to fail several times before learning.Kintaro said:
So, if adding a subscription fee to a self admittedly unfinished game at the same time as SWTOR's release and the start of Guild Wars 2's beta somehow has a notable negative effect on their active player base, they may end up reconsidered in 1-2 years.
Riposte said:
I didn't say anything about taking the character away but I think relaunching with everyone at the same level would be good.No reason why you can't keep your loot.If it continues this way with new content trickling in what fun is it going to be already new content comes out and everyone blows through it in a week.
I think the proposed re-launch trailer they mentioned in there that they'll be doing at E3 will definitely help with that.Riposte said:
I think when the rebranded 2.0 client is released, and the PC and PS3 version get new boxes to be shipped to retail, they'll get a solid boon from that.
The PS3 version alone is going to merit reviews from many sites.
Nirolak said:
Yep, as soon as that subscribe fee pops up, I feel they're going to lose some players. Not ALL of them, of course, but it's going to get another drop because the game still doesn't sound ready for launch. The revamp is nice and a step in the right direction but it still doesn't seem to fix some issues that are there.
so they are going to merge all servers into 1 single large one?
time to delete all my useless mules
will probably get rid of the one on gaf server too if they're gonna merge them all anyway
the timing is kinda weird
i was expecting it to happen soon
but looking at their timeline
next february soon
to coincide with the introduction of new jobs
time to delete all my useless mules
will probably get rid of the one on gaf server too if they're gonna merge them all anyway
the timing is kinda weird
i was expecting it to happen soon
but looking at their timeline
next february soon
to coincide with the introduction of new jobs
sublimit
Banned
Siliconera says PS3 version will go on sale after January 2013.Thoraxes said:
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/1...is-year-ps3-version-beta-coming-in-late-2012/
Having people pay to test the game for an entire year seems like a really bad idea if they want the game to maintain any momentum and have a healthy playerbase. Not that it has much of either at the moment. However it's still better than what it will be once the subscriptions start. If they're really that low on cash, they should just implement a cosmetic-items-only cash shop, then in a year decide if they still want to add a subscription fee or if they should just continue using micro-transactions.
Also, it's too bad that you can't check a server's population anymore. It would be really interesting to see a before and after count for when the subscription fee goes into effect.
I bet a large portion of the people still playing only do so because the game is free. If I recall correctly, the last 2 times they announced the introduction of the subscription fee, they ended up extending the free trial at the last minute. I wonder if they'll do the same thing again if there's a large enough drop in the population. Or maybe they'll just use it as an excuse to cancel the game, who knows.
Also, it's too bad that you can't check a server's population anymore. It would be really interesting to see a before and after count for when the subscription fee goes into effect.
I bet a large portion of the people still playing only do so because the game is free. If I recall correctly, the last 2 times they announced the introduction of the subscription fee, they ended up extending the free trial at the last minute. I wonder if they'll do the same thing again if there's a large enough drop in the population. Or maybe they'll just use it as an excuse to cancel the game, who knows.
PumpkinPie
Banned
I'm genuinely interested in the PS3 version if they get things sorted.
Seventh said:
Yea, that's one thing that might hurt them, one of my friend started playing this recently and he seem to quite enjoy the changes and had pretty positive feedbacks (so did the people on gaf), they should keep it free for a little longer and hold the momentum and let the words spread on how good the game is becoming.
The_Endgamer
Member
Is there anyone who plays this still here?
Are the menus less cumbersome/faster to navigate?
Just wondering if i should reinstall it is all.
Are the menus less cumbersome/faster to navigate?
Just wondering if i should reinstall it is all.
Yes, see the community thread, we still got a decent LS going for GAF players.The_Endgamer said:
Menus still about the same, but there are a lot of new helpful info tweaks. Plus they added a neat new mini menu that you access via the emote button. Lets you access Chocobo, emotes, food sack, main menu, and macro lock.