Weapons will only be available from Savage.
i190 weapons to go with Prototype gear are Ravana's weapons.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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Weapons will only be available from Savage.
i190 weapons to go with Prototype gear are Ravana's weapons.
I wouldn't say healers are uber hard so much as drastically different priorities. While tanks and dps focus focus primarily on the mob(s), healers will be focusing primarily on health bars. This shift in attention can be quite jarring for some people when it comes time to enter content that requires you to dodge mechanics and move around while still keeping up the HP of others (and yourself).
But if your groups get dat gearscore up and people perform the mechanics right? That's some downright peaceful times.
Devilgunman
Member
OMG MCH perf!!
Basically they realized popping GB on and off during the fight is the way to go.
Basically they realized popping GB on and off during the fight is the way to go.
Pyros_Eien
Member
"The sound effects for the following actions have been adjusted:
Meditation / Form Shift / Fell Cleave / Broil "
Monk noise nerfs!
Meditation / Form Shift / Fell Cleave / Broil "
Monk noise nerfs!
I do realize that they tend to make people work harder for weapons. Just marginally disappointed, wanted an axe that didn't have a bajilllion Parry. XD
Bard is still broke as fuck. Grats, you can toggle a poorly-designed clunky skill. Super curious to see how Machinist works now.
Seems just fine with constant uptime to me.
Seems just fine with constant uptime to me.
Not entirely sure that's true? Like, all signs currently point to it outright being better to keep it on. Granted, that's due to the cast time part of it right now but like ... there's very little to gain weaving it.
If anything, the 15s recast timer on it kind of notes it isn't really meant to be weaved. Especially with GR/Ricochet being lowered overall.
What was wrong with the Fell Cleave SFX? It felt so satisfying, especially coupled with a large crit number.
I think there were some complaints that people didn't like some of the SFX, particularly on the Japanese servers. To be fair, as satisfying as the sound for Fell Cleave is, it's rather high pitched, so I could see it grating on some people.
Its probably like Cleric stance and that the recast is only after activating the move, you can use it again after 15 seconds to turn it off and then immediately turn it back on. Basically you can now quickly turn it off and not need to suddenly 'stop' an attack just to put it back on, but you can't suddenly turn it off after activating it till 15 seconds are up. The fact we dont need to wait for a cast time means it actually can strategically be turned off in the few instances you know you have to be mobile all the time and then suddenly pop it back on for siege mode when you know you can stand still for a bit.
Devilgunman
Member
He could do higher with On/Off GB though.
It's not 15s recast timer that is an indicator. It's 0s initial casting. It is pain in the ass to equip GB mid fight but with 0s casting I can pop it on when ever I want to burst Wildfire.
Pyros_Eien
Member
I didn't say they were uber hard, but I'd say they're the hardest class in general due to having both a high focus on specific UI parts(the health bars as you mentionned), as well as having to do most mechanics like everyone else. Having to keep track of your cooldowns/debuffs/dots is easier than to keep track of constantly fluctuating health bars, it requires more focus to see when people randomly take damage and heal them quickly.
Plus you also have the tank thing where your responsability to perform your job flawlessly is higher than a DPS. A DPS who has to drop a combo because he lost focus on his rotation to avoid some aoe has very little impact on the fight. His epeen is a bit smaller but eh. Lose vision of your tank's health for a few seconds and it might be a wipe.
All in all, it's not like really difficult, any of it.
And yes your job gets easier as a healer the better the other players are.
You base this on... what? All the Machinists out there toggling and parsing higher?
tiggerkiddo
Member
Hmmm even though this is supposed to be the easier mode of the raid, I'm still not sure I'm crazy enough to try DFing it except for practice.
Snapshot King
Member
I'm confused as to how Alex is supposed to work. You can only roll on gear the very first time you complete a section...ever? So assuming there's 4 drops, 4 people'll get a piece of gear and then that entire group is going to fight for weeks over the need of the tokens?
The writing is so confusing.
"Treasure coffers that appear upon completing Alexander: Gordias will no longer yield gear, but instead yield tokens that can be traded for gear of your choosing.
You can only receive one item per floor each week. In the event you are awarded an item from the loot list, you relinquish your right to vie for all remaining items regardless of whether you selected Need or Greed. Also note that there is no weekly restriction on entering Alexander: Gordias."
It seems to imply that if you get an item drop for that week you can't roll on the tokens. But it says that after you complete the raid, gear'll never drop again? Can someone explain this to me?
The writing is so confusing.
"Treasure coffers that appear upon completing Alexander: Gordias will no longer yield gear, but instead yield tokens that can be traded for gear of your choosing.
You can only receive one item per floor each week. In the event you are awarded an item from the loot list, you relinquish your right to vie for all remaining items regardless of whether you selected Need or Greed. Also note that there is no weekly restriction on entering Alexander: Gordias."
It seems to imply that if you get an item drop for that week you can't roll on the tokens. But it says that after you complete the raid, gear'll never drop again? Can someone explain this to me?
A little over 3 weeks assuming it's 6 floors of Alex (ie 6 tokens/week) and 18 tokens needed in total (17 might actually be the case as one can't have 2 of the same ring).
There is no gear in Alex, just tokens that can be redeemed for the gear.
Each week, you can get one token per floor. You can't roll on tokens once you've had your gear for that week for that floor.
After the weekly reset, you can roll on it again.
You can attempt any of the turns any number of times. After clearing you get a selection of tokens and you roll on them like you would on any other item. Upon obtaining an item from a turn you cannot obtain another item from that turn for the week.
So you can run the raid until you obtain one token from T1, one token from T2, one token from T3 and one token from T4.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Works like old CT drops, but per boss instead of being 1 per dungeon. You can run the dungeon as many times as you want. After every boss, a chest drops with some tokens(unsure if general tokens or if they'll be class specific). You roll on them. If you win, you cannot roll on that chest again even if you do the dungeon again. If you don't win, you can run the dungeon again and once you clear that boss, you can roll again. Once you've rolled and won every floor items for the week, you're done until the next week. It never drops gear, that's in reference to older systems.
It sounds like a per-boss version of the WoD system. The raid has 3 floors. Each floor has 1 chest with tokens in it. If you win a token from a chest, you can't roll on anything from that chest/floor for the rest of the week. The tokens themselves are the items in question.
Alex Normal basically reads like 8-man CT to me, down to the instant solo queue ability.
Devilgunman
Member
Myself. I always parse lower when GB always on. I'm not saying I'm good MCH or anything but you can ask that guy on Twitch to try On/Off GB and see if it improves.
Snapshot King
Member
But doesn't that mean you will only ever have a 1/8 chance of ever getting a token because once you have a token from that floor there's no reason for anyone to ever run it that week?
It's in Duty Finder so just run it until you get one.
Matt Attack
Member
Monk sound effect changes are awesome, but the real best news for us is that they fixed the Forbidden Chakra queuing issue (which was absolutely infuriating).
TatteredHat
Member
Yes please.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Mm, so there are different kind of tokens?
Snapshot King
Member
So, you're able to pick what token it is, then? It's not a random drop? So say, a certain boss or chest will always drop the body piece, or they all do, o...something? Honestly I'm still having a hard time. The Ravana and Bismark token systems are easy as pie to understand.
Pyros_Eien
Member
If they made it 3 they'd probably nerf the skill heavily, though that could be nice. 1 cast out of combat would be great though, it sucks having to spam it every wipe or every trash pack. I don't use it on trash personally, can't be bothered.
We don't know what turn drops what tokens exactly, but it's probably a bit random. Like, you get 3 or 4 random tokens from Turn 1. Something like that. Think back to 2.4 dungeons like Snowcloak where you could receive tokens for i90 gear, but which token would drop exactly was random.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Did you not read the whole thing or? It says you can buy the armor with the tokens and even gives you the prices. It's 1token for accessories/belt, 2 for helm/gloves/boots, 4 for chest/legs. You don't pick what token it is, you just get a token. It's like currency.
Edit: Oh nvm I see it now, it's a bunch of different tokens, thought that was the item reward, my bad.
Zomba13
Member
From what I understand:
Alex doesn't drop gear only tokens.
Tokens are slot specific (head token, feet token etc) not class specific
You get one token per floor per week
You need/greed on a token and win, you can't need/greed on another token on that floor until the reset
Different gear takes different amounts of tokens. Accs are 1, body is 4
We don't know if certain slots come from certain floors.
Alex doesn't drop gear only tokens.
Tokens are slot specific (head token, feet token etc) not class specific
You get one token per floor per week
You need/greed on a token and win, you can't need/greed on another token on that floor until the reset
Different gear takes different amounts of tokens. Accs are 1, body is 4
We don't know if certain slots come from certain floors.
Judging by the patch notes there are 4 floors with 19 tokens needed to get everything.
Snapshot King
Member
So there's the possibility that I have shit luck and keep getting body token drops on all my raids when I already have the body? How is that any better than just dropping loot? Unless a chest would drop like...8 items.
Yeah, corresponding to different parts.
Though since all are basically worth the same, the only reason there's 7 different types is to keep you going back for more cause RNG.
I REALLY hope they are like that.
I mean, I've watched his video pretty obsessively (and got really happy when it validated my 'holding your opener in Ravana sucks and isn't worth it' biases), and he's not really losing anything to movement. The guy has the fight, the movement requirements, and proc management down pretty cold, and I don't really see anywhere that he'd benefit by reducing the power of his attacks across the board for a little more freedom of movement and some autos.
I don't doubt that a lot of people will parse better with GB off or only up for specific burst, but I do question the idea that played perfectly or near-perfectly toggling is the ideal.
What if you have shit luck and all the loot is not for your class? There's less loot now by condensing it down to slot tokens, so there's more chance of getting something you do need.
They are
Item Type Required Token Number of Tokens
Head Tarnished Gordian Lens 2
Body Tarnished Gordian Shaft 4
Hands Tarnished Gordian Crank 2
Waist Tarnished Gordian Chain 1
Legs Tarnished Gordian Spring 4
Feet Tarnished Gordian Pedal 2
Accessories Tarnished Gordian Bolt 1
Zomba13
Member
Yup. From the sounds of it all it helps is that you get the tokens so don't have to worry about only loot for PLD dropping when you are a NIN. Instead now the worry is only Accessory tokens dropping when you need the pants tokens.
Thank you, missed that.
Well before you had a much higher possibility of gear not related to your job dropping after multiple runs.