Aeriscloud
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There was almost nothing in the caves though, 4 quests max, and falling down the mountain was easier than running back down.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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There was almost nothing in the caves though, 4 quests max, and falling down the mountain was easier than running back down.
Players: we want original and different side quests from the standard fetch/kill!
Yoshida: here you go.
Players: these quests are too hard! Wtf?
I'm cool with how Dragoon is now, but I can see why other people have complained when you consider that the positional is random and hitting it has about a 3x difference in potency. They wanted to lax the penalty a bit.
Munba
Member
So true
They were still fetch/kill, they just basically turned off the minimap telling you exactly where to go to fetch/kill, or the quest tracker saying "type /this".
They Morrowindized those quests when players are used to having Skyrim difficulty "giant arrow pointing toward where you need to go"
Zomba13
Member
Well when you have people who complaing about having to search a small area for things with bright pink beacons on their heads how do you think those people will feel when not even given a map pointer?
Those were the best quests and it will suck if we don't get any more like it.
Munba
Member
Mmh no, some quests were about exploration following some hints. And i like it.
Zomba13
Member
The broom quests were waaaaaaay easier than the previous "no hint" quest. They basically told you exactly what to do so instead of it being a visual signpost (like a big red circle on a map) we were told "follow the river west" which would only be an issue if you couldn't read (which tbh I think many MMO players can't...).
They were still fun though and actually told a nice story. I just wish they could find a balance between code deciphering like the previous one and reading directions like the brooms. Only issue I had with the brooms chain was when it wasnted a specific emote that I just didn't use because to me the emote is used more in triumph and victory and not to make someone feel better.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Even when those positionals are occasionally missed Dragoons are STILL the highest melee DPS class in the game. What more do you want?
The fact that Yoshida's response to classes that actually have issues (Bard with Minuet, Ninja with Mudra lag) was just "get good" and his response to the best melee class in the game having to miss positionals sometimes was "oh let me fix that a bit for you" is laughable.
Dragoons should just have to deal with the reduced potency loss and be content with the fact that they're still the best. If you have to give up positional damage once in a while, welcome to the MNK life where that happens constantly?
Wait, is this true? If that's so, fuck you Yoshi. There's no room for gitting gud when lag is involved as much as with Mudras.
It really seems like I should return to my 50 DRG...
I've already been using thunder for the entire rotation, it always fits in with my blizz IV during that MP regen phase. The issue I had more of was using the thundercloud procs which, yeah, an enochian increase does nothing for.
Q
Queen of Hunting
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just been through support got access to my account yay
Azzurri
Member
Only took 2 weeks!
Well it looks like we can change the FC name now.
I think they are just changing dragoons because its an extremely easy thing to change rather then them feeling the class was any harder than the others or anything. As a side note, Monk potency losses aren't as high as the ones being changed.
If people continue to complain he won't be able to use that excuse anymore.
I think they are just changing dragoons because its an extremely easy thing to change rather then them feeling the class was any harder than the others or anything. As a side note, Monk potency losses aren't as high as the ones being changed.
If people continue to complain he won't be able to use that excuse anymore.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
SliceSabre
Banned
'I just want to be given flying I don't want to work for it and then complain about no content BAWWWWWWW"
Azzurri
Member
But that's just busy work, it's just a time sink. They should just get them through the main story quest.
Pellegri Testament
Member
It's mainly the WoW babby excuse when it comes to obtaining flying. Too many are too used to just being handed it or throwing money at it and not actually caring about exploring anything.
Well if the Enochian timer doesn't reduce I guess we will be free to just Fire IV until we run out of mana. That makes it slightly less interesting than it is but hey ho I guess. On the plus side I guess that would be less sheer panic to deal with during the fight. Actually I don't even know if that's a plus since I kind of liked the panic. :-( That change would remove a lot of the reactive element and decisioning.
Exactly. If they don't extend the Astral Fire/Umbral Ice duration, I doubt I'll be using that Thunderclouds proc during my Fire IV/Fire 1 rotation [unless I really have to move and it's available].
Here's hoping they have other stuff planned. The Enochian timing I never really had an issue with personally. If used properly [and you're not screwed with an in-game mechanic], it falls off just as the ability becomes available again.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not what Yoshi-P meant. He was likely referring to making it so each additional refresh of Enochian lasts a longer time so you don't feel as pressured to hurry/perfect your rotation in the second/third refresh, or maybe lowering the CD on Enochian itself so that, if it does end up falling off, you won't have to wait as long to reapply it.
We're not entirely sure yet, but I'd find it extremely surprising if they took away the duration.
Azzurri
Member
This is what happens when you wanted the game to be accessible to everyone. You reap what you sew.
They can't go and change it now or people would quit.
PhillipCostigan
Member
I really wish SE would release Koji Fox or someone else from the dungeon to translate these things.
I can only look at Mr. Happy getting his translations wrong for so long
I can only look at Mr. Happy getting his translations wrong for so long
Spiritreaver
Member
I am pretty sure the Enochian reapplication is what I have been saying since I hit 60. It's just when you make that dumb screw up and use the Enochian ability too soon and rather than refreshing the full duration like any other buff in the game, it acts like Blizzard IV.
That being said I'm sure they'll look at umbral/astral as well. It really feels weird not using thundercloud procs.
Maybe they can do something fun with thundercloud under Enochian where it either extends your astral/umbral, gives mp, or shortens cast time on the next spell.
That being said I'm sure they'll look at umbral/astral as well. It really feels weird not using thundercloud procs.
Maybe they can do something fun with thundercloud under Enochian where it either extends your astral/umbral, gives mp, or shortens cast time on the next spell.
"Neverreap."
THE ANSWER WAS IN-FRONT OF US THE ENTIRE TIME!
No but seriously, I loved the broom quests too. It'll be a shame to see them go away.
This is the only thing they could do to make me interested in using it without just always increasing the astral/umbral buff.
Their balancing is worked around the fact that they know tanks will usually pull before anyone is actually ready.
Exactly the same, though much less thought required.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Spiritreaver
Member
Is Meditation that MNK ability that makes the really weird sound and has the DBZ effect?
I'd spam it constantly just to annoy everyone.
I'd spam it constantly just to annoy everyone.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Thankfully, they've tone down the sound effect.
Nope.
The only annoying thing about how it is now is that some aether current quests follow from quest chains that wouldn't even appear to be related to aether currents, like the Hunter Becomes Kweh one.
Sometimes I wonder how you even play the game, since I recall you complaining about Heavensward content being gated by MSQ, wanting the ability to buy level 50/60 boosts, and now you just want aether currents unlocked via MSQ.
Azzurri
Member
I complain about everything, but I still do it. Lol
But these theme park MMO's are about endgame, so I'm not wrong, so you spend 20 or so hours until you hit max from 50. Is it fun, sure, but you're doing it to reach level 60 and endgame where the game actually starts for the majority of people. I get you need these because if not there isn't as much to do, but people race to endgame in every MMO because that's where all the major content is.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
Game fully installed now off to work lol. Ill request to join company when i see someone online. I joined ultross
Yeah that was my understanding as well. So currently when I first apply to Enochian it's all good and I can rip Fire IV's until the mana runs out. But after the refreshes, and considering mechanics and movement, when the timer shortens it becomes tricky to do the Fire IVs and still refresh in time as you said. So if we no longer have to deal with the reduced timer then it just becomes a simple thing to keep pumping out Fire IVs with plenty of time to refresh and without having to consider what to do when in the shortened window. I mean black mage will do a lot more damage that way but for me that sounds a lot less fun to play.
If you are using triggering the ability while still under the effects of Enochian that's a pretty bad mistake. :-(