It can be desynthesized but it would take a considerable amount of money to get to that point. Desynthesizing is quite lucrative at higher levels though so it would be worth it.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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It can be desynthesized but it would take a considerable amount of money to get to that point. Desynthesizing is quite lucrative at higher levels though so it would be worth it.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Depends on what they grab, If you grab 10 things and get curb stomped then its not helping the group.
To my post?
Nah, I am serious.
I don't hold grudge or hate it when people aggro more stuff or stand in fire in easy or farmed contents.
I have a role to play in the party, and it is inefficient to let someone dies out of spite.
Why lower your group dps and increase your chance of wiping?
If you can outheal the damage, whatever, stand in fire and I will micro-manage my healing rotation to cover the tank/dps.
If you can outdps the trash before the tank/healer die/oom, whatever, pull the whole room.
Of course, it depends. But usually, you can just pop your CD rotation and see how it goes instead of letting the guy dies on purpose and wiping on trash because everyone gives up on seeing 10 mobs.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Reading back through the last few pages has me very glad that I speak Japanese lol
He he. Is that because you don't have to deal with healers letting people die out of spite, DPS pulling instead of the tank and tanks who encourage it?
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Actually, healers letting people die because they take unnecessary damage repeatedly or fight mobs no one else is when they can't actually deal with them is pretty common, seeing as how it's the fastest way for wayward DPS to learn lol
There are just some MMO cultural differences that tend to result in less BS (not none, of course). Some of those are bad, like people generally having much less time to play or there being 2ch boards dedicated to exposing shit players on each server, and some are good like general politeness to strangers and a focus on efficiency.
Honestly, the way people go on in here you'd think it was Bedlam in DF but in my experience it's generally pretty civilised and pleasant. Maybe I've just been lucky...
Edit: Wait... there is a message board where they call out suspected sh*t players by name?
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Yep, there are actually separate boards for each server. Going by some of the stories I seen you'd have to be pretty extreme to make it on there, though
Lanrutcon
Member
There should be a limit to how many times a person can initiate a vote to abandon.
Also, and this is super super weird, there should be a report button. Weird thing to have in a fucking mmo, right? Just right click, report, botting, done. No filling forms, no support bullshit, just a simple item on a context menu. This is a thing that would already exist if SE gave 2 shits about cheating in their game.
Also, and this is super super weird, there should be a report button. Weird thing to have in a fucking mmo, right? Just right click, report, botting, done. No filling forms, no support bullshit, just a simple item on a context menu. This is a thing that would already exist if SE gave 2 shits about cheating in their game.
There is.
Lanrutcon
Member
Interesting. Was doing the Cryswhatevertheheck and after the first 2 wipes someone (or someones?) spammed about 7 abandon requests to the point people started swearing.
Yeah it's on a timer, I believe. Each of those abandon requests was done by a different person.
Yup
There's a 30 minute wait time after you innitiate a vote abandon.
Tragicomedy
Member
Beginner content, but on the subject of bad dps...
I ran the first trial in the game tanking as a paladin. I had zero issues with aggro, or positioning, or avoiding AOE, because it's a piss easy fight. I also had a very good scholar healing me and keeping folks topped off.
Well we still managed to wipe twice in a row. DPS wasn't avoiding his large AOE and didn't pick up the crystal type add that blows up and kills the party.
The scholar politely asked the BLM taking damage every time if he could move out of the heavy damage and pick up the add. His response, "I'm playing on my computer, not with a game pad. It's harder to avoid the AOE."
Wut.
Third try, we burn down the add and both dps die from standing in the fire. The scholar and I proceed to spend the next three minutes slowly killing the boss, popping cooldowns, potions, the whole nine yards. He might have been able to rez one, not sure what abilities they get at that power level. But afterward we shared a knowing, "That's one way to finish this..." and moved on.
Running dungeons up to almost 30 now, and I've come to love the instant queues and the guys and girls pumping out so much dps that I have to put in work. I don't mind if they even push the pace some, since tanking and fairly easy at this early level. But I've seen about 70% good, 30% stupid so far. I only tank and heal in MMOs, but I can appreciate when people really pump out the damage and consider avoiding unnecessary crap.
I ran the first trial in the game tanking as a paladin. I had zero issues with aggro, or positioning, or avoiding AOE, because it's a piss easy fight. I also had a very good scholar healing me and keeping folks topped off.
Well we still managed to wipe twice in a row. DPS wasn't avoiding his large AOE and didn't pick up the crystal type add that blows up and kills the party.
The scholar politely asked the BLM taking damage every time if he could move out of the heavy damage and pick up the add. His response, "I'm playing on my computer, not with a game pad. It's harder to avoid the AOE."
Wut.
Third try, we burn down the add and both dps die from standing in the fire. The scholar and I proceed to spend the next three minutes slowly killing the boss, popping cooldowns, potions, the whole nine yards. He might have been able to rez one, not sure what abilities they get at that power level. But afterward we shared a knowing, "That's one way to finish this..." and moved on.
Running dungeons up to almost 30 now, and I've come to love the instant queues and the guys and girls pumping out so much dps that I have to put in work. I don't mind if they even push the pace some, since tanking and fairly easy at this early level. But I've seen about 70% good, 30% stupid so far. I only tank and heal in MMOs, but I can appreciate when people really pump out the damage and consider avoiding unnecessary crap.
As someone who hasn't played since couple patches after PVP was introduced, what's the consensus on Heavensward's dungeons and raid mechanics thus far? I've been kind of wanting to get back into the raiding fold now that the expansion is out, and level thief I guess (How are they doing in the meta).
I know that feel.
Not much in raiding content at the moment. There's only 1 raid right now, easy/story mode was launched last week while the savage version is due on Tuesday.
Same here, I don't remember many bad groups. I wonder if all Japanese servers are like this.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
What controls do people use?
Camera based or Legacy?
Camera based or Legacy?
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Member
I just started using legacy as a 60 WHM and find it a lot easier to heal and not spin my my camera in dumb ways in the middle of running around in an intense fight.
Always Legacy.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I just recently started using Camera controls for a change of pace. It's different but I like that you have more control over your movement via strafing while still facing the enemy without lock-on (since I still tend to fumble turning that off when needed).
There's an option to make your character face your target when you use a spell or skill, that's what causes your camera to freak out since if you use it on a target that's not directly ahead of you, your character facing will change so when you next move your camera it will update to your character's new direction which causes that jump.
Don't know if I'll stay with it but it's made things interesting so far.
What is legacy based? I tried it once and I can't tell the different since you are still able to spin the camera and play at bird eye view.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Legacy = Camera does not update based on the direction your character is facing.
Camera based = Camera is locked to the direction that your character is facing, in addition moving left or right on the left analog stick will cause you to strafe instead of turning.
It's more that people are not going to wait for you to watch the cutscenes. They're going to rush ahead and finish the dungeon without you. They don't actually expect anything from you.
Hmm, i guess i am on legacy then but never noticed it since i play on pc. Camera based sounds awful, your environment awareness would drop no? You cant see to the far opposite direction of your character direction. Hell, can you play in bird eye view?
Alright that's not really a big deal with me. I'll watch it at the inn or on YouTube.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Queuing 4-man content has never been an issue that I've seen on NA/EU datacenters. It's trying to queue the 24-man content (CT) which is literally like playing Russian Roulette with your soul.
I will say that if you are interested in the story in the least bit, you may as well just watch the scenes during the dungeon.
Guild is active but we aren't really forming raid groups. A lot of the statics on ultros server are mixed guild groups for some reason.
Free Company. The name guild slips out a lot for people who have played other MMOs.
a miserable pile of lalas
RellyRell28
Banned
I just like to say I love the HW story and the expansion in general. As far as my Job is concerned I love the new Black Mage actions. I'm glad we have to pay a little more attention to Astral and Umbrel buffs. I find nothing wrong with how Enochian works and love the mechanic. If I say they had to change anything, it would be to finish your cast of Blizzard IV if Enochian runs out before the cast finishes. Other than that I love it.
Collectibles. Collectibles. GC Turn Ins. Collectibles.
Read Drama's collectibles guide on guildworks if you haven't. If you're working on fisher, pop a commercial manual as well while collectible fishing.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
If you're standing in one spot using skills your camera position will only update when you move so you can still look around you in that case if you position your camera before using a skill.
It's probably more suited to PC where you can quickly swivel your mouse around for situational awareness.
I feel I am super patient and nice for the first couple runs of content. I will take the time to explain each boss mechanic before I pull. I'll be super understanding of any issues or low DPS or whatever. Once I have to do any content for the 3rd-4th time, I lose all my patience and rather just leave then have to explain.
So I'm a nice guy for the first 2 weeks of a patch then go back to being a dick lol.
I've been quite lucky with DF and almost never met an outright terrible player. Mediocre ones? Yeah tons but most of the content is easily clearable with mediocre players so it's fine. Most of the time the very bad players are confined to very low level stuff that you can still pull through without their help. Aurum Vale is the exception, people have always been consistently terrible there for some reasons...
I loved that cutscene too, the end of the 3.0 story is really great. Makes up for the weak pay-off you get for some of the stuff built up in 2.55.
I loved that cutscene too, the end of the 3.0 story is really great. Makes up for the weak pay-off you get for some of the stuff built up in 2.55.
I think Malboros are cute and I hug my malboro shaped pillow every night. Also Aurum Vale is my favorite low level dungeon, AURUM VALE HM FTW SE!
Veggy
Member
Thank you guys, Ill add that to my info doc I have where I keep all the good tips for FFXIV I find
So much info to read through!