Thank you guys, Ill add that to my info doc I have where I keep all the good tips for FFXIV I findSo much info to read through!
Have you also seen these?
1- http://i.imgur.com/smNx1ZX.jpg
2- http://i.imgur.com/PEnLMF9.jpg
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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Have you also seen these?
1- http://i.imgur.com/smNx1ZX.jpg
2- http://i.imgur.com/PEnLMF9.jpg
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
These are charming and great, and official SE versions should be on loading screens.
Are there healer/DPS versions?
I capped MCH, but I'm thinking of leveling SMN after watching them just utterly wreck the dungeons I've been in. Balmung has pretty much stopped the MCH hate, but I still get people for stuff like the Aery in low level roulette compaining about MCH.
I'm not trying to hear that noise.
I'm not trying to hear that noise.
I like the bit in the bottom right corner. It's a shame that new people won't get to experience the troll tower in all of its glory.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Got my MCH at 54 now and I've matched or outdone melee dps with comparable gear. It's more work to get damage out of it, but it's still there.
Just don't like having both DPS in a 4-man as MCH...lol
You start to feel the drop off around 56. That's also when you should start using rapid fire/gauss/reload/wildfire burst to start off boss fights. But beyond the burst, if RNG deems it so, your dps can start feeling low.
SE said they are looking in to it post Alex, so expect some updates/reworks.
Now these are guides.
TatteredHat
Member
Going back into lower dungeons with roulette and only having 3 of my usual skills available is starting to feel weirder as my character's standard rotation becomes more and more complex.
Another thing I don't quite understand is why there's such a difference in bonus exp you get from the roulettes, I got over 200k at the end of Copperbell mines but only got like 60k from Cutter's Cry. The additional exp you get from the mobs doesn't feel like it makes up for the difference in bonus exp.
Another thing I don't quite understand is why there's such a difference in bonus exp you get from the roulettes, I got over 200k at the end of Copperbell mines but only got like 60k from Cutter's Cry. The additional exp you get from the mobs doesn't feel like it makes up for the difference in bonus exp.
Because they're trying to give you the same total EXP for the two dungeons. The issue with places like Cutter's Cry is that most people skip like ... half the mobs in the dungeon.
Still, the higher level dungeons in LLDR tend to be better overall EXP even with this factored. Usually the bonus isn't enough to offset the dungeon EXP.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Those are really charming guides that are darn good at teaching the basics of tanking. The only thing I would add to them is to emphasize that you need to watch what your team is doing. If your party is doing a lot of AoE damage, for example, you need to mix in a larger than normal amount of Flash into your combos. If your allies put mobs to sleep (I actually had someone in Tam Tara sleeping mobs the other day!), then only use Flash to generate aggro and avoid damaging the mobs. Being a tank is all about situational awareness; you need to always be paying attention to what the mobs and your allies are doing, and anticipate where to focus your hate-generation.
TatteredHat
Member
Market board? Where is that?
Unfortunately I'm not in any FC right now as I'm currently playing on Lamia.
Player "auction" house basically. There's a market board in each of the 3 starter cities and Ishgard, it's always in the middle of the vendor district. The 3 residential wards also have their own Market Boards.Market board? Where is that?
Unfortunately I'm not in any FC right now as I'm currently playing on Lamia.
If you're not in any fc though you won't be able to use them. You need to stable your chocobo to feed him the fruits and stables are currently only available in the residential wards so you need to either join a fc and use theirs or buy a house (good luck) and a stable for your personal use.
I thought that may be the case, damn. I wanted a raptor blue one!
Oh well, I suppose. Thanks for the response
SliceSabre
Banned
Done with Alex for the week because the goddess of RNG and Duty Finder smiled upon me and allowed me to win pretty much one of everything on all four floors including the gobwalker shielding.
Floor 4 DF group was probably my best one yet. We easily made quick work of the boss in one fight despite there being two new people.
Floor 4 DF group was probably my best one yet. We easily made quick work of the boss in one fight despite there being two new people.
Ah man these are super cool. Who made them?
Depend on your lvl and the lvl of your gear.By lvl 50 with i90ish you should be above 300dps when your lvl 60 probabpy ilvl140ish 500dps. (This is a lower leaning example but as any dps you should never drop below 300dps.)
This isnt really 'good' but it could be waaaaaay worse.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
ACT
Started working on him lastnight, thinki i will need to find or start a learning party this evening, i take it you need to split the dps between A side and B side ?
Pyros_Eien
Member
There's no side. Don't really want to go too deep into mechanics in case you're trying to figure out for yourself, but otherwise just read up a guide and you'll see.
With my website and another one, we did an interview with Naoki Yoshida at Japan Expo. If you're curious about MCH & BRD DPS, the next raid, Glamour Egi, Hildidi, EU Servers, 4.0 and sidequests...
http://www.finaland.com/?rub=site&page=news&id=5495
Enjoy
http://www.finaland.com/?rub=site&page=news&id=5495
Enjoy
Starting to get antsy for Alexander Savage already.
I'm about as geared as I'm gonna get besides a few pieces by then, but spending my down time trying to level crafters and my other classes. It's kinda nice to be able to switch to whatever I want again and just enjoy whatever I'm feelin'.
Curious if anyone else has been leveling their crafters? Did you just do daily turn-ins or was there other methods?
Also kinda worried since I was working with the highest gear with full melds and Supra's... makes me so sad to get rid of that stuff. I still hold onto my fully melded WVR jacket... because of reasons. >_>
I'm about as geared as I'm gonna get besides a few pieces by then, but spending my down time trying to level crafters and my other classes. It's kinda nice to be able to switch to whatever I want again and just enjoy whatever I'm feelin'.
Curious if anyone else has been leveling their crafters? Did you just do daily turn-ins or was there other methods?
Also kinda worried since I was working with the highest gear with full melds and Supra's... makes me so sad to get rid of that stuff. I still hold onto my fully melded WVR jacket... because of reasons. >_>
With my website and another one, we did an interview with Naoki Yoshida at Japan Expo. If you're curious about MCH & BRD DPS, the next raid, Glamour Egi, Hildidi, EU Servers, 4.0 and sidequests...
http://www.finaland.com/?rub=site&page=news&id=5495
Enjoy
Hurray!
TheMrPliskin
Member
Is there any consensus on if Bards should be using WM? I don't think I've seen a single Bard use it in the DF.
The Elite
BOSS
I used it once in a dungeon. It may be fine for fighting regular mobs but against bosses that require you to continuously dodge AoE attacks it's completely useless. Attacking whilst moving is what I am best at.
Caelestis
Member
They dps more with it on. It's either keep it on or rotate between turning it on and off depending on situation.
All good Bards should use it, with the changes its a dps gain in almost all situations at level 60.
I really don't like the change in play style but I'm getting used to it. Dropping the cast time has saved it for me, I'm much more used to stance dancing as I've played a load of Scholar. Pulled around 850-900 in Alex 4 today (no quarantine) which made me very happy.
So I am running low level dungeons to level my lancer up quickly, which so far gives me 1 or sometimes 2 levels per run.
I'm in Toto-Rak just now and we start the run, a DRK, a THM, a SCH and me.
At the start I say "Hey,if you guys don't mind a full clear, I could use it for XP but I am totally fine with us just going through it normally".
No one really says anything to this until the SCH says "Well, I'll set myself on follow then and let Eos do the healing".
To which all of us go "Uh....no? You can at least DPS to speed up the whole run."
SCH says "You said you want a full clear,I just want my low level roulette, so i'll go on follow and watch a series. Why DPS?"
We then argue back and forth that whether we did a full clear or not, him doing DPS will always speed up the run and we will kick him if he just goes on follow.
Man almost started screaming at us for not letting him just follow through and at the end of the run (he played normally) he said "shit group" and immediately left.
Man,some people,I swear.
I'm in Toto-Rak just now and we start the run, a DRK, a THM, a SCH and me.
At the start I say "Hey,if you guys don't mind a full clear, I could use it for XP but I am totally fine with us just going through it normally".
No one really says anything to this until the SCH says "Well, I'll set myself on follow then and let Eos do the healing".
To which all of us go "Uh....no? You can at least DPS to speed up the whole run."
SCH says "You said you want a full clear,I just want my low level roulette, so i'll go on follow and watch a series. Why DPS?"
We then argue back and forth that whether we did a full clear or not, him doing DPS will always speed up the run and we will kick him if he just goes on follow.
Man almost started screaming at us for not letting him just follow through and at the end of the run (he played normally) he said "shit group" and immediately left.
Man,some people,I swear.
Altered Juice
Member
lol his lazy ass
SliceSabre
Banned
Honestly speaking? He's not actually doing anything wrong by going on follow and Eos doing the healing as long as he's truly not afk and at the end of the day healers don't have to dps if they don't want to because well, they're healers. And in low level dungeons? Hell no healers really shouldn't be dpsing there that's asking for trouble.
In fact you would be in the wrong if you kicked him.
In fact you would be in the wrong if you kicked him.
TheSlySoul
Member
I am thinking about getting back into FFXIV.
Have to think about it, but any good sites for a new player?
Have to think about it, but any good sites for a new player?
Meh, it's still a shitty thing to do. Totorak is awful enough as it is.
We were all lvl 60s on our alts/down leveled.
There was never any moment where him DPSing could have been bad,especially in Toto-Rak which features basically no mechanics till the last boss.
SliceSabre
Banned
Still though he doesn't have to dps if he doesn't want to.
I know the issue of healers dpsing is an eternal topic of discussion here and on other forums, but they do not have to and you cannot kick them for choosing not to. Sure you can kick them if you convince the others in the group and then the healer can report you all for the kick and you would have no standing.
How are people leveling new jobs fast these days? I just came back after a long long break from this game, and I'm leveling a new character (old one still active, but wanted a change). It seems they've buffed the experience points for MS Quests as my Arcanist is 30 and I'm only to level 26 story quests. I'm leveling Thaumaturge for Swiftcast, and it's going pretty fast, but I'm wondering if it could be faster. I got from 1-17 last night in about 4-5 hours.
But the people who are taking Machinist, Astrologan and Dark Knight to cap, what is your trick for fast experience with no quests to help you along?
But the people who are taking Machinist, Astrologan and Dark Knight to cap, what is your trick for fast experience with no quests to help you along?
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I'm not sure what you mean by "good sites" but here are some good sources of information:
Catching Up to 3.0:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3bheg1/guide_to_catching_up_to_patch_30_heavensward/
You just hit Lv.60 and here's what you can do next:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TbmBVks_f36Ytw7INoQkHYchB5_QSiYhGA4MCl0rhZ0/mobilebasic
This site tells you what is the best equipment any Class can currently equip and it also provides a Hunt tracker:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/
Altered Juice
Member
if the healer was kicked and filed a report nothing would happen
GMs stopped giving a shit around 2.2
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-is-practically-allowed?p=2358628#post2358628
Lanrutcon
Member
I don't DPS as a SCH.
Hell, I don't even have my DoTs on my SCH hotbars. If I need to kill shit I switch to SMN. If I want to kill shit in dungeons I queue as a SMN. If I want the run to go faster I tell the DPS to stop playing like the elderly and do their goddamn rotations.
I am a lazy man.
Hell, I don't even have my DoTs on my SCH hotbars. If I need to kill shit I switch to SMN. If I want to kill shit in dungeons I queue as a SMN. If I want the run to go faster I tell the DPS to stop playing like the elderly and do their goddamn rotations.
I am a lazy man.
Hey, man, if my autoattacks are sufficient to kill dungeon trash I don't see why I should have to rotation. Sounds like work.
There is absolutely nothing for a scholar to do in a lot of low-level dungeons but DPS. Eos has everything covered. It's not asking for trouble, it's finding an excuse to push buttons and not just AFK the whole thing.
If people want to just AFK dungeons because they don't have to technically do anything else... Okay, fine, but let's not pretend there's any actual group benefit to it. If you're not going Clerics in Sastasha it's because you don't wanna, not because it's safest for the group.
There is absolutely nothing for a scholar to do in a lot of low-level dungeons but DPS. Eos has everything covered. It's not asking for trouble, it's finding an excuse to push buttons and not just AFK the whole thing.
If people want to just AFK dungeons because they don't have to technically do anything else... Okay, fine, but let's not pretend there's any actual group benefit to it. If you're not going Clerics in Sastasha it's because you don't wanna, not because it's safest for the group.
SliceSabre
Banned
Exactly this.
I don't trust people enough to go dpsing in dungeons when I'm a healer nor am I the type of person trying to rush through dungeons either.
I queued as a healer and that's what I'm gonna do. Maybe you dps should learn your class better or queue with friends if you want super fast dungeon runs.
Challenge Log is really nice. All of the roulettes give nice experience for the time committed. Dungeons give a good bit of exp as well, especially once you have a class at 50 or 60, you get a flat bonus for every class under that. It's actually not too bad to level lower classes once you have a high level one.
I took my DRK on my alt from 30-38 in a short while with leves/fates/and a couple of roulettes to finish off challenge logs. I did another LLDR with her yesterday and she's 40 now. It's really not too bad.
How?
I was leveling my AST yesterday to mess around with the class and I barely switched off Cleric's Stance. It's really not that hard to heal those low dungeons unless things go horribly wrong. I mean you don't have to DPS at healer, but AFK healing is so boring to me, i'd rather spend my time having fun, and having fun for me is stance dancing as a healer and contributing to the dps.
I mean, the only time I think I ever straight up just healed a low level dungeon is when i was leveling a healer for the very first time, and it was my CNJ. I mean even then I think I was Stone/Aeroing out of Cleric's Stance just to be safe, but there's so little damage coming out most of the time it's really not that terrible.