Playing for the first time in over a year and am a little rusty.. My friend told me to be a gladiator this time around, whereas I'm used to being a conjurer, and I did pretty decently during the first dungeon by playing around with the mark system and using my flashes and gathering the attention of enemies. Any suggestions so this newbie tank competes to the best of his abilities?
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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There was a discussion earlier in this thread on compiling tank advice, and during it someone posted a pair of really helpful infographics:
Anyways, the key to mastering Gladiator/Paladin is to learn how the game's Enmity system works. A good opening move is to use Shield Lob the get the mobs' attention, run through them and Flash when the whole group is in range, then park yourself on the opposite side of the mobs from your party. At this point, you start using your basic enmity generation combo (Fast Blade - > Savage Blade for you right now). Keep using that combo as necessary until the mobs die, mixing in some Flash on occasion.
Augemitbutter
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b....bu.....but build in dps meter is the evil!
theSlacker
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I'm sorry that I have to inform you that you made an Au Ra. Your happiness indicates that you missed that fact. Don't worry though, fantasias are pretty affordable.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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What MMORPGs have built in parsers?
What you posted is what I have been doing so far - just learned Shield Lob right before my first dungeon. Thanks for this! I want to do the best I can in the dungeons!
I hope you enjoy being a tank! I find it pretty rewarding myself. Just remember: your primary job is twofold: hold enmity on the enemies and stay alive. So long as those two things stay true, you are doing your job right.
Augemitbutter
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i havent played every mmorpg. its pretty useful in a game with dps checks. id be happy to have numbers at every mission clear screen. pvp has that.
Using a dps parser has shown me how bad some people are at the game. It's a good thing I don't really care that much if people are bad at the game, only about my own numbers, but in the wrong hands I can see it being using for shaming and discrimination.
So I totally see why Yoshi-P wouldn't want it in the game.
Xux
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It's not so bad. Just fit in an extra AoE enmity move after each enmity combo and spread your enmity combo across each enemy.
My friend regrets the day that he started using a parser, says that it has ruined the game for him when he sees all that bad DPS.
If they knew that ilevel doesn't neccesarily mean better dps. If the players don't know their rotation, they could be i200 and still have a hard time.
It is just all reinforcement advice.
Literally a free consultant will give you commentary on what to do, who wouldn't want that?
Zomba13
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Part of the reason I don't want to use a parser is I don't want to know when the DPS are being bad. The other part is paranoia about being banned or account hijacks which is weird considering I used the Windower in FFXI and a bunch of addons back in the day.
Crafting into the expansion has been a weird adventure thus far. Profitable, but strange. Unsure if I should prepare to meld things since the crafters had specific gear in the announcement trailers, guessin' that will be 3.01? Or are they available via Red Scripts (or whatever that is; not there yet myself)?
I'm planning on getting a full HQ set of crafting/gathering gear and then just waiting with a pile of materia for the next patch.
It's not in game yet, most are assuming it'll be added on Tuesday when red scrips are released alongside 3.05.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Never seen anyone dumb enough to put that in a PT finder comment lol
People don't get banned for using parsers, people might get banned when somebody reports them for harassment based on parsing. I've never seen anybody getting suspended for it myself but our FC leadership strongly advises against talking about numbers even in the FC chat so I presume there were incidents.
skLaFarebear
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Done with my summer class and booted up Heavensward for the first time.
This title theme.
This title theme.
It's a really good title screen theme. Too bad you can't turn off the autoplaying opening movie. lol
skLaFarebear
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The struggle with all games with great title themes.
Pretty close to just quitting Ramuh Ex after trying to clear it for 4 days now. Every random grouping seems to have their own setup on how they want to clear electric Santa. The tanks don't have any macros and die before or shortly after the adds spawn, DPS are just grabbing orbs at will and the healers have just rooted themselves in like trees.
Try using PF and doing an unsync run.
There is some issues with it light making sure ALL deeps is stopped on Ramuh though during the add phase and stuff but if you can sort out that issue, a team of 60s unsync'd should be able to burn him down quickly enough.
Of course if you yourself are joining PFs (instead of DFing it) then start your own PF. This way you can set up rules/be in charge of how to do it, etc.
Besides that, not much else you can do besides banging your head on it over and over.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I never bothered to run this or Shiva EX before I was gone for a while.
The weapon designs worth it?
I really wish Primals had armor drops themed after them. Even if it's just level 1 vanity stuff, it would actually be nice to have gear that matches the weapons.
Which is to say no, Ramuh weapons don't look too great cause they don't go well with anything IMO.
Iced_Eagle
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Just ran Halatali for the very first time. Ended up being realllyy rough dungeon with the party. Tank couldn't keep the enmity on him and mobs ended up focusing the healer a lot of the time. Ended up with 3 KO's but we recovered and made it out. Good fun though!
Just did the Tam-Tara Deepcroft dungeon for the first time, had a great group of people. We only died at one point thanks to me forgetting I didn't have any Hi-Potions after the healer must have lagged out/lost connection but we did great all in all. Galvanth was easy. It's always fun when everyone partakes.
WonkyPanda
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So, judging by the overall attitude around here, not worth revisiting for someone who stopped playing about 1 1/2 years ago?
It is. The story and overall way it's told has gradually improved with each patch, becoming pretty great in Heavensward.
No, I think the game is plenty worth returning to. They have had several major content patches and a whole expansion since you last played. Even if you do nothing but run the added Main Scenario Quests and run each of the new dungeons and raids once, you are in for a whole lot of content that is significantly better than what the game shipped with. They added good gear to the post-50 MSQs too, so you don't even need to grind for gear to run any of that stuff.
I've been doing it in DF while completing quests and so I'm not sure how long it'll take to get a PF going, but man has this one been painful.
WonkyPanda
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Is the game at a point where questing, with some dungeon sprinkling, is sufficient to hit high levels? I left around the time Fate Grinding was nerfed heavily, but Fate Grinding was awful in and of itself anyway.
Dougieflesh
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Just ran The Aery to level up my alt and i'm stunned how some dps have such little grasp over their classes. I don't want to be "that guy" in the chat log trying to tell someone how to do their job better but sometimes it's frustrating tanking on dps checks when you wipe a couple times.
The only thing keeping dungeon grinds from being the best EXP is queue times for most people. FATE grinding is faster for DPS simply due to the consistency of it. And, well, easier to do mindlessly.
The fastest way to do 50-60 is basically just following the Main Story Quest + side quests and a few pit stops to repeat a dungeon a few times. Low levels got more EXP pumped into the quests, I believe, and the Armory bonus is up to +100% for 1-50 instead of just +50%. Though I guess that probably doesn't apply since this sounds like your first character through those levels.
That and go into as many dungeons blind as you can, since outside of FC parties, you'll probably be expected to kinda be aware of certain things in older content. Enjoy what you can blind, since that often leads to some nice experience building, and often you actually learn the fights instead of just getting by.
If you can give someone pointers in a good way, go for it.
Everyone seems to like the main Heavensward content a lot.
I want to thank all of you who gave me tips before starting to play this game, Ive been playing for a week now and just by being nice in dungeons and asking for a lot of advice/telling people Im new I have gotten a lot of commendations and good tips when in dungeons! No sour faces so far, the community is great! 
I think people likes the fact that you put effort into becoming better and actually communicate that you are new!
I think people likes the fact that you put effort into becoming better and actually communicate that you are new!
The Illiterati
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I just started 2.0 a few days before Heavensward, and I reached 60 without redoing a single thing. All dungeons once, all side quests, no roulettes AT ALL. I did around 5 fates.
They doubled MSQ exp with the launch of Heavensward. Leveling up in Heavensward content (50 -> 60) is still a chore, but getting to 50 should be a breeze now.
Same as SCOB Savage? 零式 to reference the fact it's allegedly how the encounters were originally designed (which is probably actually true this time).