tiggerkiddo
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Hmmm, wonder how hard making this new crafting AF will be.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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Requires 718 craft, 695 control. Mats aren't exactly cheap either.
So you'll likely need fully melded HQ 150 to even have a shot of hqing stuff.
Well at least SE is keeping you busy until the next patch hits lol.
Pyros_Eien
Member
The crafting stuff looks like a disaster, you need scrips for the mats, you need reduced high tier sands for everything, you need ephemereal node hidden mats for most of the stuff, you need new materials from those new nodes gatherers need scrips for. You can instead buy gear with scrips, but it's unmeldable so it's quite possibly worse than the crafted gear with full melds, and even if you use scrips to buy gear it takes 9weeks of capped scrips to afford the set+main hand for ONE class, assuming you don't use any scrips on other stuff.
I don't know, maybe it'll settle down, but it looks like a big mess. On top of that the new craftable combat sets reuse existing models(they're basically all using the 1star 60 chests you could already make at a fraction of the price, so there's 0 glamour market there), and considering how ridiculous the prices will be, I'm not sure anyone will bother when Law gear is so easy to farm. Even accessories I don't know if people will bother this time around.
Oh you also need FC3s and MCs for about everything, which is great since nothing in heavensward seems to desynth into them.
On the combat side though, a big plus is the weapons for esoterics are only 990, instead of 1300 like they used to be, and don't require a raid drop to make on top of the raid drop to upgrade. So basically the only thing you need is 3weeks of eso, get some leftover and you get a weapon better than RavEX.
I don't know, maybe it'll settle down, but it looks like a big mess. On top of that the new craftable combat sets reuse existing models(they're basically all using the 1star 60 chests you could already make at a fraction of the price, so there's 0 glamour market there), and considering how ridiculous the prices will be, I'm not sure anyone will bother when Law gear is so easy to farm. Even accessories I don't know if people will bother this time around.
Oh you also need FC3s and MCs for about everything, which is great since nothing in heavensward seems to desynth into them.
On the combat side though, a big plus is the weapons for esoterics are only 990, instead of 1300 like they used to be, and don't require a raid drop to make on top of the raid drop to upgrade. So basically the only thing you need is 3weeks of eso, get some leftover and you get a weapon better than RavEX.
Does anyone know how melded PvP gear stats compare to similar normal-battle crafted? With them both being 180 this time I am curious how it stacks up, if I remember right they changed it so morale doesn't hurt the stat allocation as much at some point.
As for melded vs red scrip, red scrip is higher ilevel but only 10. Not sure if it will match or not.
I have no idea what the hell they are doing. The solution to crafting gear being too strong is apparently making it even more expensive? I cannot even imagine how much these items will cost. Most of the pieces require at least 150+ worth of red scrip mats, not even considering how expensive the gathering mats will be. Glamor market will be dead but hardcore raider market will likely still be there. Going to be really hardcore though to justify these prices.
As for melded vs red scrip, red scrip is higher ilevel but only 10. Not sure if it will match or not.
Lanrutcon
Member
And me! I put up 21 Fieldcraft Demimateria for 100k each and they sold out in five damn minutes lmao. Best patch!
Let's see how you like exdr after running the same 2 dungeons for a couple of months
. I guess it's still better than just running Brayflox hard!cartoon_soldier
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Try playing from India! 200 is like god send if I get it ever.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Lol, I like Neverreap and FC.Let's see how you like exdr after running the same 2 dungeons for a couple of months
Also it seems i180 is not enough to clear A1 Savage miniboss Faust :lol
Augemitbutter
Member
SE likes to babysit us at every step. if they ever introduce gear choice, you can bet they will autoequip you after a wipe and call it echoequip or some shit.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Looking at the streams, the amount of damage on Savage A1 seems really high. Like T13 high but with a lot of single target stuff too, pretty funny to see, looks like a nightmare to heal.
Ha ha! That little guy in A1 is giving people problems now? Good stuff.
Lanrutcon
Member
I bet the whining will be especially pleasant.
I think you mean DPS check for losers.
Anyone who knows how to do their rotation will be fine.
DPS check seems to be around 7200 DPS to get past Faust before adds become too much for healers, based on streams I'm watching.
Oh come on man, I am barely getting to 1000DPS and now you want me to do 7200DPS???!!!??
I'M OUT!
My static is historically too relaxed with stuff like this, so if this is true then maybe it will push them in the direction of taking it a bit more seriously for the time commitment.
I learned recently that some of them hadn't even done Ultima HM... >_> And our tank hadn't even unlocked Alexander because his ilvl was too low.
Git gud!
I really, REALLY, liked FFXIV, however the subscription fee is too expensive for me.
Have they added a yearly sub already? That could be a great deal.
Even the $13 subscription?
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DarknessTear
Banned
It only took them 15 hours to clear T13 from start of progression to finish.
Totally not surprised. They are too good.
SliceSabre
Banned
Based on the stream I'm watching A1 is significantly harder to heal on, no surprise there though.
It kinda feels like the divide between good and bad players keeps increasing in this game. Nowdays a good dps does twice the dps of a bad player in any given engagement. Has it been always this bad? I don't remember it beeing this significant like a year ago. I swear to god I was outbursting a BLM yesterday on my WHM on EX Bismarck chitin. And no, that wasn't because of me doing particulary well.
Lanrutcon
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The game doesn't exactly force people to get better. There's a clear divide between hard and easy content, with little in the middle. If SE actually gated content behind skill checks it would probably force people to get better, but the outcry from the general community would be massive. SE makes more money off the masses than the top 1%, as does almost every MMO.
It's always been like that, it just gets more obvious with time/changes in gear and stuff.
SliceSabre
Banned
It is just becoming more obvious how many bad dps there are out there compared to the past. Sure we've always gone loldrg and things like that but nowadays it is clear the vast majority of dps honestly have no idea what they are doing and are just pressing buttons.
Amazing.
Didn't many jobs become more complex? Seems like there could be a higher skill ceiling in play.
Given that A1S trash apparently requires twice the raid DPS of Bismarck EX, I'm going to quietly laugh at everyone who treated Bis like an actual real DPS check. Even allowing for the gear upgrades the past month, there's no comparison. Time to figure out how to do like... 500 more DPS myself. Npnp. ;_;
I'm torn on the tokens. 8 for the weapons seems like for-fucking-ever, but to flip it around if RNG blessed you with uncommon luck in FCoB, absolute best case was 8 weeks to outfit everyone in your group with a weapon. Now you can guarantee it. It being shared with other gear keeps it from being ideal--sucks to be the guy RNG refuses to give a chest or weapon to--but I get why they picked 8.
I'm torn on the tokens. 8 for the weapons seems like for-fucking-ever, but to flip it around if RNG blessed you with uncommon luck in FCoB, absolute best case was 8 weeks to outfit everyone in your group with a weapon. Now you can guarantee it. It being shared with other gear keeps it from being ideal--sucks to be the guy RNG refuses to give a chest or weapon to--but I get why they picked 8.
Rose of Eternity
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From doing ~30 Rav EX runs the last 3 days and parsing them, the range of dps is insane. Majority of people barely hold 500 for the whole fight. I had no idea dps was so hard in this game or I would have rolled that instead. The skill cap for a good dps seems more than a tank for this game, which is the opposite in most mmos. Darn.
In other news.. I'll be running more Rav EX tonight!
edit: I'd also like to point out how unbelievably hard it is to hold my tongue in groups and not call someone out for their dps. In any other game it's the natural thing to do and then make them git gud or kick them. In this game I risk being banned if I mention I know how much they're doing.
Based Japan. I hope they beat former CL once again.
Elysium trailed them by 7 minutes, MVP also cleared it.