By boring you mean actually getting things done?
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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By boring you mean actually getting things done?
How? Alphinaud is Minfilia-tier jackass that hardly got better with the expansion. Lisa did more with less and had a semblance of an arc at least.
Audioboxer
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Just ran Ifrit on hard for the relic weapon quest for the first time and the grimoire dropped and I got it, yay!
Agreed, Mide is an upgrade.
The bolded is the keyword, she had to have something since her story is done. Elf boy is still around for a long time, he doesn't need to be arcing yet. They both suck.
Gamer @ Heart
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She had so little screen time, i am convinced Alphi memories have infected everyone's impressions of her.
What's interesting about it?
It was a research station that a beast tribe (goblins) turned into a primal via aether.
The story will have us go through Alexander until he "fully awakes" and we have to kill it's manifestation (because FFXIV can't do big boss fights). Zzzzzzzzzz! So not only is that boring, but instead of interesting characters like Nael and Lousioux as part of the usual generic FFXIV primal story, we get goblins and generic Au Ra girls.
The best parts of the FFXIV story so far have been Imperial invasion, Ul'dah political intrigue, Heavensward story, and Coil plot around what happened during the cataclysm. The primal shit is sooo boring.
Lousioux isn't interesting. Nael is but too bad he wasn't in the coil story. Yeah Alexander himself still has a story to be told. This version we are seeing was pulled from some legend and took over this "research station" if you think they aren't going to talk about the legend of why alexander is a primal then I have news for you.
I'd contend that Bahamut's background was the most interesting part of coil and that falls into that "primal shit"
SliceSabre
Banned
Alphinaud suffers from the fact he constantly has his head up his own ass and thinks he knows everything and is insufferable to listen to at times.
I loved every moment he was wrong or got his world rocked.
I loved every moment he was wrong or got his world rocked.
See my edit re: boring primal stories.
You have bad taste my friend!
Nah, that's more the Wyrm/Dragon story from 1.0 to Coil to Heavenward. That was the interesting part of it, not the boring primal / aether part.
1) An interesting theme.
2) Better music.
3) Characters with any kind of depth.
4) A plot that isn't the usual primal aether BS.
5) A feeling of "epicness" and scale/impact in the overall story & setting.
6) An interesting villian
SliceSabre
Banned
You gotta problem with:
Boom! gobbie-bomb, gobbie-neckbreaks
Again and again and again!
Doom! gobbie-hands gobbie-endmakes
The end! Oh, the end! Yes, the end!
Stop disliking good themes.
1 is fine. 2 is fine. 3. You met the characters just now, you don't get depth in the prologue, idk what stories you deal with. 4. Fine though I like it when it's done well. 5. Don't know what the scale is yet obviously. 6. Probably haven't even met the real villain yet
It's Brayflox
This guy gets it.
1) I dunno, I think the whole idea behind what Alexander was created to be and what the Blue Hand want to use it for are kind of interesting. It's also another instance of a "Primal" whose definition is rather obscure. If this is supposed to be a beast tribe primal of the gobbiekins and it's been summoned by another person who is likely Uplander-esque, then it means we're still defining what exactly Primals are.
2) Already has the best music!
3) Part 1 of 3, Still no idea what's going on with Redbrix, Mide, and a host of other Alexander-related characters like Quickthinx and most importantly the black kitty.
4) Unfortunately, this is Final Fantasy XIV ¯\_(ツ
_/¯5) Shutting down a giant mechanical fortress that will stomp all over Idyllshire isn't epic? D:
6) HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE BLACK CAT!?
Nah but really, I think it's still early in the story of Alexander and while I'll say the Adventure Hook (hoho look how nerdy I am) is not very strong for the raid, there's a lot they can do with it going forward. The problem is waiting for it to go forward.
It's hard to compare it to the Binding Coil because the story had a background and needed less time to flesh it out. Compare it more, perhaps, to the story of Crystal Tower (leave sarcastic jokes to the side for now). It started very innocuously as just "Hey there's this thing here go play around in there", but by the end the storyline was actually rather sweeping and moderately compelling if you gave a shit about that sort of thing.
Basically it's a big picture sort of deal. There's no "fighting on Bahamut's hand" in Alex 1 which is a problem to a degree, however I'm hopefully that by the end of Alexander's raid the story will be rather interesting and will be a nice addition to the lore and something that can be measured against Coil for quality. It's just not there yet at all.
Racist
gtfo Uplander filth.
Genocide is fun.
Agreed. Even though your character would be a forced conscripted soldier in the imperial army.
SliceSabre
Banned
Syphs are fun though!
Except those crazy ones...
Except those crazy ones...
Isn't your character already conscripted to help the Scions who also seem to have no problem killing others?
When have Scions killed anybody without being forced to by circumstances?
Primals don't count for obvious reasons.
When do the scions kill others? They don't do anything.
SliceSabre
Banned
I know Primals don't count but technically you didn't have to kill the Pope.
Course his bros killed your friend so his ass was grass regardless.
Course his bros killed your friend so his ass was grass regardless.
The scions didn't make me do that. I was waiting for the opportunity to bathe in his blood
.....I need an adult.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I agree with Sorin! At no point did any of the last 2 remaining Scions specifically told you to kill King Thordan. Your Mission was to stop them from obtaining Allagan Technology and to stop the Empire too.
Unknown Soldier
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The Scions don't need to kill anybody because they have you. You're the assassin and the Scions are the Assassins' Guild.
SliceSabre
Banned
I loved choosing that answer.
Snakethesniper
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Hi guys, I'm trying the free 14 days on the PC version. I made a pugilist and I have a question about evading attacks. How does that work?? I keep moving behind my target when fighting but I still receive damage. I ask this because the lvl 10 skill you acquire can be used only if you evade an attack. Is it rng based?
You can physically dodge AOE attacks with a visible telegraph but you can't really dodge most regular attacks like that. There's evasion that occurs sometimes (it's RNG but you can temporarily raise it by using Featherfoot skill). Only evasion like that triggers Haymaker (says Dodge on the screen where damage taken would be otherwise). Haymaker is pretty much a useless skill. In party content if you're getting hit as a DPS something is likely wrong and for most highest level monsters and bosses evasion straight up doesn't work.
Yes, more or less, it's RNG based. There are some skills that boost your evasion rate, but it's not something to rely on.
the_sun_king
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I know it's a lot of people's past time to hate on Alphinaud but to insinuate that he hasn't had character development (especially in Heavensward) would be a fallacy. His growth just isn't crammed into a raid storyline is all.
Snakethesniper
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HylianScribe
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This thread has turned into an obvious marketing ploy for the Lore and Music panel at PAX Prime.
I'm not sure if you can really have "Continues to be a fuck up in every way possible and be a selfish prick" count as development.
It's not streamed is it?
the_sun_king
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Again, if you're talking 3.0, I'd disagree there.
I really don't get the hard on people have for hating him.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Sickness must be purged.
That was pretty great.
I very much teared up after my first run of Vault. Reenacting select Assassin's guild quests probably would have been in character for me at that point
They are jealous of him and his character development
of creating his own exclusive access to Ruby and Onyx Carbuncle