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[MechaX]

All this nerf and buff talk.

I'm just going to switch to the DPS DRK class, just in case.

 

[Tabris]

All this nerf and buff talk.

I'm just going to switch to the DPS DRK class, just in case.

Honestly, if you want the safe bet, go with WAR. Every PT will always need a WAR. Never see PLD + DRK combo.

 

[iammeiam]

RIP Being Fun to Play was the worst nerf

(WTB Rain of Death. Will trade our shitty useless bind skill.)

 

[Squishy3]

Did this patch add the anniversary event?

 

[Kagari]

RIP Being Fun to Play was the worst nerf

(WTB Rain of Death. Will trade our shitty useless bind skill.)

2.0 RoD was the best. Damage down all day.

 

[Tabris]

Asami, I didn't get any platinum cards this round I think you need to be above 2k for that.

 

[scy]

We're making the hand equalize DPS check on A3S with PLD / WAR combo, but overall DRK + WAR is the better choice right now.

To be honest, Hand of Pain isn't a real DPS check? I mean, it's still a mechanic to be respected and dealt with but more that it exists so you can't just AoE this phase and make the overall fight enrage easier. So you're forced to do the mechanic instead of cheesing the fight. The difficulty here is keeping their health apart while also damaging both at the same time and not simply meeting X% damage.

I do agree though that DRK + WAR is better overall. Was more just commenting on that DPS checks at this point of gearing aren't quite the same in terms of strict requirements. Like, we're 10+ ilvls over the first clears.

 

[Frumix]

Did this patch add the anniversary event?

It was in the files since a few weeks ago.

 

[Kagari]

"RIP Auto Attacks" makes it seem like Minuet isn't still a general upgrade though. They're in a pretty good spot right now for where their overall damage is (and not even in a "good enough" capacity, for awhile the top A1S DPS I even knew of was BRD; any fight SMN is good at BRD is good at currently). The buff change was more general than just Bard wasn't it? I mean, it probably sucked but like ... others got hit too.

Current Rain of Death has offensive uses (can reach Frontal Accuracy cap when needed for short durations, Healer DPS thrives on it) too so ... idk? It's also now a supremely better off AoE thing than before.



It's really fun like that. Everything about A1S is basically a "go ahead and try hard" thing? Faust is fun to see how fast it can be killed, it's nice to see how low you can split for the Oppressor, and it's nice to flat out remove a phase from the fight. It's like ... the ideal setup for trying to work on speed clears. It's really cool to me.

Making bard into bow mage is a nerf because it took away the fun of moving and shooting. Instead we're now playing Resident Evil 5 all day every day.

 

[Plywood]

Healing seems so complex. I think I'll stick with the easy mode that is tanking for now.

Healing is easy mode.

 

[Sorian]

Making bard into bow mage is a nerf because it took away the fun of moving and shooting. Instead we're now playing Resident Evil 5 all day every day.

Oh there we go, that's a good 4.0 nerf. Add tank controls to bard.

 

[Frumix]

Oh there we go, that's a good 4.0 nerf. Add tank controls to bard.

No need for 4.0, just switch from Legacy back to Standard. Go into first-person mode for increased authenticity.

 

[Kagari]

Oh there we go, that's a good 4.0 nerf. Add tank controls to bard.

Throw in a bad AI companion while they're at it.

 

[Sorian]

Throw in a bad AI companion while they're at it.

Chocobo needs to always be summoned and he can block doorways.

 

[scy]

Making bard into bow mage is a nerf because it took away the fun of moving and shooting. Instead we're now playing Resident Evil 5 all day every day.

Just seems like a case of adapting though? Or switching jobs if it's not that fun anymore? Bias aside, the job is in a better spot now than before in terms of DPS. Fights are designed a bit better in general to lay off on the batterying too (or have downtime built in for it to happen for free) which lets them get to be there as a real DPS.

 

[Alrus]

Scholars who don't put their fairy on obey (well, especially Eos) are the worst.

 

[Kagari]

Just seems like a case of adapting though? Or switching jobs if it's not that fun anymore? Bias aside, the job is in a better spot now than before in terms of DPS. Fights are designed a bit better in general to lay off on the batterying too (or have downtime built in for it to happen for free) which lets them get to be there as a real DPS.

The problem with switching jobs is they made everyone not melee into casters of some sort. That's my problem with it - they killed what made bard different.

 

[Sorian]

The problem with switching jobs is they made everyone not melee into casters of some sort. That's my problem with it - they killed what made bard different.

Nah, you guys are still my battery. Keep playing that mana song so I can keep getting that 5th fire IV out of each rotation.

 

[Kagari]

Nah, you guys are still my battery. Keep playing that mana song so I can keep getting that 5th fire IV out of each rotation.

Kirito is that you?

 

[Jayhawk]

Go do the math comparing five Fire IVs without Foe's Requiem versus four Fire IVs with that 10% buff from Foe's Requiem, though that's simplifying the scenario by a lot.

 

[Kenai]

The problem with switching jobs is they made everyone not melee into casters of some sort. That's my problem with it - they killed what made bard different.

I think that was intentional though. They don't seem to know how to balance a ranged DPS with the utility of BRD (and MCH), vs the mechanics they have while keeping the DPS competitive AND letting them stay mobile (and a lot of the DPS checks are pretty cruel right now so keeping their DPS low when not moving was probably asking for more trouble than they wanted).

 

[Xux]

Go do the math comparing five Fire IVs without Foe's Requiem versus four Fire IVs with that 10% buff from Foe's Requiem, though that's simplifying the scenario by a lot.

If my math's correct, that'd be about a 10% increase in DPS, I think.

 

[Kagari]

I think that was intentional though. They don't seem to know how to balance a ranged DPS with the utility of BRD (and MCH), vs the mechanics they have while keeping the DPS competitive AND letting them stay mobile (and a lot of the DPS checks are pretty cruel right now so keeping their DPS low when not moving was probably asking for more trouble than they wanted).

Of course it was, I'm just saying I disagree with what they did. Bard wasn't that low compared to others pre-3.0.

 

[Sorian]

Kirito is that you?

I love channeling my inner Kirito

Go do the math comparing five Fire IVs without Foe's Requiem versus four Fire IVs with that 10% buff from Foe's Requiem, though that's simplifying the scenario by a lot.

What does this matter, the bard is going to have to be a battery at some point. I might as well get use out of it too.

 

[Jayhawk]

What does this matter, the bard is going to have to be a battery at some point. I might as well get use out of it too.

What's a battery? I don't think my raid group has one of those.

 

[Ken]

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[iammeiam]

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WAR gloating so unseemly.

 

[Sorian]

What's a battery? I don't think my raid group has one of those.

Sucks

 

[Kagari]

What's a battery? I don't think my raid group has one of those.

Make Nin Py pilot the walker.

 

[Voror]

Is anyone having weird lag issues or getting disconnected from the game?

 

[Ken]

WAR gloating so unseemly.

Hey I'm a MCH just like you!

 

[Kagari]

Hey I'm a MCH just like you!

Lies you told me you didn't like it!

 

[Moonlight]

Is there a limit to how many times you can do Duty Roulette per day? I see people lumping it in as a daily thing, but I'm not seeing a visible limit.

Also, I unlocked Fire 2, but I can't seem to use it in Guildhests. Do you unlock abilities later for group content?

 

[Kagari]

Is there a limit to how many times you can do Duty Roulette per day? I see people lumping it in as a daily thing, but I'm not seeing a visible limit.

Also, I unlocked Fire 2, but I can't seem to use it in Guildhests. Do you unlock abilities later for group content?

You can do it as much as you want but you only get the bonus rewards once.

 

[Alrus]

Is there a limit to how many times you can do Duty Roulette per day? I see people lumping it in as a daily thing, but I'm not seeing a visible limit.

Also, I unlocked Fire 2, but I can't seem to use it in Guildhests. Do you unlock abilities later for group content?

Roulettes only give bonuses once a day. You can do them as much as you want but you won't get the bonus after the first one.

Depend on the duties, you might be getting synced to a lower lvl, thus fire 2 isn't available.

 

[iammeiam]

Hey I'm a MCH just like you!

Lies you told me you didn't like it!

The turrets will hear about this.

Spoiler

seriously why would you keep buying eso gear for it

 

[aceface]

Still listening to the OST...
The Coil Tightens
I forgot about this song, best music.

 

[Ken]

Lies you told me you didn't like it!

The turrets will hear about this.

Spoiler

seriously why would you keep buying eso gear for it

I didn't at first but then it was more enjoyable after I learned a proper opener and how to use CDs.

 

[gryvan]

yay free TP!

 

[Jayhawk]

Make Nin Py pilot the walker.

Don't need to. Already getting clears. A2S carry sales inc.

 

[Xux]

They need to stop making Dark Knight seem so cool; I need to get PLD to 60 first so I can do higher ventures, lol.

 

[Ken]

They need to stop making Dark Knight seem so cool; I need to get PLD to 60 first so I can do higher ventures, lol.

You can make most things look cool when you put them next to PLD.

 

[SliceSabre]

You can make most things look cool when you put them next to PLD.

I said god DAMN!

 

[crackbabyjr]

You can make most things look cool when you put them next to PLD.

Not whm

 

[Kagari]

Still listening to the OST...
The Coil Tightens
I forgot about this song, best music.

Coil was the best.

 

[iammeiam]

Not whm

Bro, you have Assize, the actual best button in the whole game.

It's impossible to not look cool, with or without a PLD.

 

[Redx508]

YO what is going on here where did all the dps go

btw

YO AGAIN (help ;~

The Totemo Fun Kigurumi Otaku Club is still looking for a melee DPS that's ready for progression raiding as soon as possible in order to fill our 8th slot. We also have a spot for one machinist / bard, as another one of our members will soon be too busy to raid. We're not a super hardcore group, but we expect new members to be able to adapt to each encounter in Alexander Savage, and have a good grasp of their rotations. We've cleared floor 1 savage as a group, and are about to begin working on floor 2.

Our schedule for the moment is TUE / THUR / SAT from 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM eastern, though we're flexible enough to run the same time on different days.

If anyone is interested, send Lorde Doome or Red Xiii a /tell in-game, or send me a PM on gaf. If you want, you can also send us a screenshot of a 5 minute ACT parse.

EDIT: And yes, we do use mumble for communicating in raid.

 

[Moonlight]

You can do it as much as you want but you only get the bonus rewards once.

Roulettes only give bonuses once a day. You can do them as much as you want but you won't get the bonus after the first one.

Depend on the duties, you might be getting synced to a lower lvl, thus fire 2 isn't available.

Oh, that'd make sense. Thanks!

 

[crackbabyjr]

Bro, you have Assize, the actual best button in the whole game.

It's impossible to not look cool, with or without a PLD.

I just wanted to bitch like everyone else in the thread I like whm despite what I say about it occasionally.

 

[scy]

I just wanted to bitch like everyone else in the thread I like whm despite what I say about it occasionally.

all the rocks missed tho