SCH's is a lot less impressive than it looks in the trailer.
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Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward |OT| Raiders of the Void Ark
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SCH's is a lot less impressive than it looks in the trailer.
SliceSabre
Banned
MCH is also pretty disappointing. I finally got to see it during a A1 run and didn't even realize it happened.
AST's LB3 is pretty damn awesome though. The giant cards floating around and up, the various constellations you can see follow by the bright flash of light and suddenly everyone is up. The AST floating the entire time is a nice effect too.
AST's LB3 is pretty damn awesome though. The giant cards floating around and up, the various constellations you can see follow by the bright flash of light and suddenly everyone is up. The AST floating the entire time is a nice effect too.
But it's cool though
It is cool, I won't lie. Meteor is still king though.
SliceSabre
Banned
Looked up SCH LB3 and yup, ASTs easily has the best looking LB3 of the healers.
Tragicomedy
Member
Not in particular. The challenge comes from maximizing Dark Arts to boost other abilities, since it's a massive mana hog. Darkside itself is super easy to keep up with your combos since two of them use Syphon Strike. Blood Price and Carve and Spit allow you to go wild on trash AOE weight concern for mana.
Darkside is a must so the goal is 100% up time.
Meteor is boring when you got a SMN doing Teraflare.
It's by far my favorite LB3. People can say what they want about AST's class balance til now, but their spell effects have been top notch from Day 1.
Floating around while constellations hang in the air and cards/planets swirl around. Reminded me of a reenactment of that certain scene from FF7.
Sorry, watered down Teraflare does nothing for me. I don't have the same hard on for bahamut that everyone else seems to have though.
I dunno why we do Meteor only. Asami, why are you always the one doing LB3? Something about DPS rotations?
T13 Bahamut was the best visual design for a boss in this game so far. What is better to you?
Meanwhile, on Chocobo...
The PF says "Alex Savage 4 from the start". I mean, it probably won't fill but...
You won't get enough LB meter in Ultima HM at current gear.
The PF says "Alex Savage 4 from the start". I mean, it probably won't fill but...
You won't get enough LB meter in Ultima HM at current gear.
They're always timed so that I do them in between enochians so the DPS loss is minimal. There's really no difference other than I never got to do them when we were running coil and I wanted to now.
Singularity Reactor won that already if we are just talking about pure visuals.
XIV Bahamut has a great design. His story is interesting as well.
Well that fight is invalidated due to the fact there is 0 reason to run it.
But even if it wasn't, it still isn't as good as T13 Bahamut, especially when you factor in the music and arena changes for that amazing build up.
EDIT - Honestly, if it wasn't for the amazing music (you would hear me hum it sometimes on mumble) and visuals, I may have gone crazy during progression on T13.
Bahamut's story isn't interesting. Louisoix's is. Bahamut was just really strong primal gets locked up by allagan forces, go kill it before it breaks out again. The actual non-primal Bahamut's story is more interesting but that has fuck-all to do with T13 and coil.
There is even less reason to run T13? So get the fuck out with that logic.
SR has good music and a better arena change IMO. Don't know what to tell you.
But there was reason to run T13 when that content was fresh.
Singular Reactor was one and done content.
And the SR HM(EX probably) that is coming? Length of content doesn't matter in this argument anyway. Being forced to look at visuals more often does not make them better. I'm sure I'll stare at jiggly ass in A3S for awhile too, it doesn't make it better.
Their stories are definitely connected. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bahamut_(Final_Fantasy_XIV)
Xux
Member
Alexander's totally gonna get interesting in the next floors, you guys!
Floor 6, Thigh of the Father, is gonna have the revelation that the goblins are using Allagan genetic experimentation procedures to make bugbears.
Floor 7, Prostate of the Father, has you find out the Blue Illuminati Hands leader is a super bugbear that's looking out a telescope or some shit and then Alexander's all, like, "TRANSMISSION RECEIVED: COMPLETED" and the leader forceably ejects you from the arena.
Floor 8, Visage of the Mother, opens with you on a giant Allagan mech in space floating towards Hydaelyn and you have to fight the defenses and goblins to try and open a way inside.
Floor 7, Prostate of the Father, has you find out the Blue Illuminati Hands leader is a super bugbear that's looking out a telescope or some shit and then Alexander's all, like, "TRANSMISSION RECEIVED: COMPLETED" and the leader forceably ejects you from the arena.
Floor 8, Visage of the Mother, opens with you on a giant Allagan mech in space floating towards Hydaelyn and you have to fight the defenses and goblins to try and open a way inside.
Whose stories? Louisoix and Bahamut or Real Bahamut and Fake Bahamut?
If the first, sure they are connected because Bahamut is meant to be Louisoix's foil to make him interesting. Bahamut himself is still boring there.
If the second, not at all. Fake Bahamut was a failed summoning just like any other primal that gets summoned. It's nothing like the real thing.
It doesn't make it better but it matters more how good or bad a fight is visually designed when you have to spend more time in the content.
So honestly, it doesn't matter as much how good Singularity Reactor looks like except as a last hurrah for the Heavenward story, yet it's very important how good T13, A3S, and A4S look as players spend a lot of time in those.
And A3S is definitely disappointing in this regard. T13 was not.
I never said there was music build-up (there is though but that's just natural progression of one song, no music change) and the arena change I said was what you just edited in. Again though, discussion on visual design and music came up somehow. Music does not lend to visual design.
More players will experience Singularity Reactor than they will T13, A3, and A4 combined.
Hehe don't think I will ever experience T13
Pretty sure game time wise, nope. Even if under 10%, the difference in game time is 15-30 minutes per player vs 15+hrs per player.
Game time wise doesn't matter. T13 reached such a miniscule portion of the player base that it's not even a blip on the radar. And for the vast majority, A3 and A4 will be just be experience once or twice in normal mode, exactly the same as Singularity Reactor. The difference there is that SR is the final boss of the expansion and A3 and A4 is just some side story that your average player doesn't care about. You assume most people are like you and me when they aren't, they don't give two shits about raids, they are here for the final fantasy story and some light MMO bits. Singularity got way more love and attention to visuals than T13 did because it was going to reach the most people and it shows.
Pretty much all of FFXIV is an exercise in reusing and recoloring moves. Both T13 and SR do a great job of masking this fact but it's there in both. Multiple times.
SliceSabre
Banned
So true, I almost laughed when I first did Sohm Al and the first boss was the same boss from Coil T6.
Where is the reuse in T13? What don't you like about T13 anyways? And what do you like of A3 and A4 over it as you've said you prefer those over Coil before.
The zoo phase drags down the T13 experience a lot if we are going to talk about visuals. It's required to be there because the fight needed to be hard and padded for time and you couldn't be interacting with just Bahamut for all of that time. What's re-used? I'll go for the obvious just off the top of my head, how many times have we seen divebombs now?
I don't like A3 or A4 as fights or as visuals and I never said I prefer those in particular over anything in coil. I've said I like the theme of Alexander overall more than the theme of coil and I've said that saying coil is better than alexander means absolutely nothing considering you have only the first third of the story, fights, etc. from alex and the full coil story. Want to just compare A1-A4 to T1-T5? They are all shit from a visual standpoint and all of the fights felt boring. The only spectacle out of any of them was fighting on Bahamut's hand in T5 but that didn't even have anything to do with the actual fight. You saw it at the start and that's it, no real surprise or use for it afterwards.
For anyone interested in hearing Leviathan's theme with female vocals, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOhDGg7qa8
That was kinda the joke. No level 50 content lasts long enough to fill the LB bar these days, and no level 60 trial requires the use of Tank LB3 yet.
{Repelling Shot}!!
Dammit Galen! Now I have a mind-worm wondering why Titan has to wear a diaper.....
Xux
Member
Love it.
Never really noticed before but the bass before the loop really reminds me of old school FF battle themes.
to cover his rock hard glutes :3c
Recompose.
I suppose all of this is reasonable, I will grind law in unhealthy doses while waiting for PF's to clear Bismarck Ex. ._.
Well, worst case scenario, come 3.1 there'll be an Echo-Buff. Between that and higher gear you'll have a good chance of clearing even if somebody falls off.
Granted, waiting for echo is hardly ideal. <_<;;
PS: Another option would be to try to recruit a regular set of friends to help clear it. If you're all learning the fight, then at least all the progress you make means something.
I don't think I'm the greatest or anything, but when I look at the gear of some of these people(180-190) and how we're failing DPS checks I'm just like "bruh" if not then it boils down to mechanics and someone falls short. Eventually someone bails and the whole party falls out. Is painful, Square pls just let me bump this out in DF, kthxbai.