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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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We can enhance the Shiva Weapons? Does this mean they're i120 now?


FINAL COIL LOCKOUT CHANGES:
- You can't double dip on loot if you cleared
- 1-4 people in party have cleared current turn, only 1 chest appears (for people who haven't cleared that week)
- 5+ people, no chests for anyone
 

iammeiam

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LMFAO

We can enhance the Shiva Weapons? Does this mean they're i120 now?


FINAL COIL LOCKOUT CHANGES:
- You can't double dip on loot if you cleared
- 1-4 people in party have cleared current turn, only 1 chest appears
- 5+ people, no chests

I'm assuming they're the i115 Diamond weapons.

Lockout changes are interesting.
 

BadRNG

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The flare breath reduction on me seemed to generally be in the 10% range, maybe slightly more (400-500ish). I don't see the big boom damage like scy does so he could give more insight on the megas and gigas and what have yous.

I'm not super great with numbers, but that 10% scales pretty well if the boss has a decent int stat. With the amount of damage it pumps out I wouldn't be too surprised if it cut the damage of the attack by ten percent. That's a pretty significant effect, to be sure. A couple hundred damage prevented can be pretty huge.
If it actually is a straight 10%, it's even more than a couple hundred, since it can hit in the 7ks unshielded on some if I recall. That'd be more HP protected than respeccing for 30 vit.
 

Tabris

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Relics are i125. Wow.

At least it's guaranteed people will go crazy on light farming now to get Nexus' done. I was expecting i120 which no big deal if I got my ironworks weapon in the meantime, but i125 is huge.
 
Do we have to wait to get in-game to see what the next relic quest specifically requires? It seems like it's multiple phases...

And that name...Nirvana. Will it be Thyrus Nirvana or just Nirvana?
 

Tabris

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So you don't need to ever be on the flank of a mob anymore with DRG? You can stay on the back? DRG became easy mode.
 

plake

Member
Whoa quite the DRG buff!

Also hyped for the new relics. Excalibur and Aegis Shield will be mine!

I don't get their message: "A number of newly-added items have been omitted from the patch notes to prevent in-game spoilers for the Zodiac Weapon quests. The patch notes will be updated with the names of these items after an upcoming Hot Fix." because it seems they already listed the relics. Oh well I guess time will tell what they've hide away.

Edit: I guess the new relics are several stages with one i120 and final one i125? Should keep us busy a loooong time. Maybe that's what's hidden.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
So who's not going to obsessively relic grind and wants to run Shiva tomorrow night? Welfare i115 weapon go.
Is it really welfare at this point though? Those in Final Coil and now on T13 likely have 130 stuff now. These Shiva upgrades would have been nice 7 weeks ago.
 

Ken

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Do we have to wait to get in-game to see what the next relic quest specifically requires? It seems like it's multiple phases...

And that name...Nirvana. Will it be Thyrus Nirvana or just Nirvana?

Nirvana. It's a whole new weapon so no point in keeping the Thyrus part.
 

iammeiam

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Is it really welfare at this point though? Those in Final Coil and now on T13 likely have 130 stuff now. These Shiva upgrades would have been nice 7 weeks ago.

For those of us still stuck behind T9, maybe? Welfare pitched at the lowly and undesirable scrub underclass.
 

Valor

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Called it. Barely an "adjustment" for Dragoons.

Also, an upgrade for Shiva weapons and a name change for relics.

That's a little bit more than an "adjustment". It seems like a pretty meaty buff that I'm still not sure DRG really needed.

Although, I sense that somewhere out there Nin Py is dusting off his DRG spear...
 
His Dark Materia

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scy

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Nearly 200 potency gained in the DRG rotation and now the highest eHP outside of the tanks.

brb, rerolling DRG

The flare breath reduction on me seemed to generally be in the 10% range, maybe slightly more (400-500ish). I don't see the big boom damage like scy does so he could give more insight on the megas and gigas and what have yous.

If I remove outliers (e.g., 0s, >10k damage failed mechanics), it's like 11% which I can chalk up to some RNG. It's hard to say since there's some variance due to mitigation not tracked easily.

That said, the easy way to put it is a fully mitigated mechanic is now in the 3k range and not closer to 4k. Missing a buff / debuff keeps it below 5000 as opposed to keeping it below 6000. Only 1 Heal is needed instead of 1.5 / 2.

Is it really welfare at this point though? Those in Final Coil and now on T13 likely have 130 stuff now. These Shiva upgrades would have been nice 7 weeks ago.

Some are actually better than their HA counterparts.

And free Ice Resist!
 
Called it. Barely an "adjustment" for Dragoons.

Also, an upgrade for Shiva weapons and a name change for relics.

Nothing "barely" about those, those are good buffs. And that's on top of actually being able to take magic hits now.

I think DRG is gonna be in good shape now.
 

Wilsongt

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That's a little bit more than an "adjustment". It seems like a pretty meaty buff that I'm still not sure DRG really needed.

Although, I sense that somewhere out there Nin Py is dusting off his DRG spear...

Edit:

Oh look at me. I didn't see the magic defense buff. There it is.

A shame roulette times are still shit or else I'd finish leveling up my DRG.
 

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Frumix

Suffering From Success
Considering the generous Shiva offer I honestly expected slight nerfs to Novus and Nexus stages because they're still kinda long ass bullshit before god knows what required to do for i125 re-relic.
 

BadRNG

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What's up with all the Perfect X items, part of the new relic line or did I miss something.

"Despite the fact this mortar has been carefully crafted to withstand the creation of highly volatile ???, chances are it will not survive the process." - guessing you craft something for the relic line and the item is destroyed in the process every time?

So you don't need to ever be on the flank of a mob anymore with DRG? You can stay on the back? DRG became easy mode.
If I am reading it right, HT still gets potency buff from being on flank. It's just that you always get the damage buff now (like with MNK).
 

Ken

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Not a magic defense buff in sight. They don't have to worry about positions anymore, but that still means that any pile of goo will kill them.

Their magic defense is brought back up to average values, and don't they have naturally higher base HP than other jobs?
 

scy

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Not a magic defense buff in sight. They don't have to worry about positions anymore, but that still means that any pile of goo will kill them.

Magic defense has been increased to values comparative to other melee DPS, archers, and bards.

16% increased uptime on Life Surge, though it may just end up meaning "lines up with Full Thrust more often." Their floor went up a bit due to the easier combos and the ceiling increase is around 200 potency (~190, assuming a perfect rotation).
 
If I am reading it right, HT still gets potency buff from being on flank. It's just that you always get the damage buff now (like with MNK).

Didn't see that in the notes, looks like the directions were straight abolished except for adding a damage bonus to Chaos Thrust.
 

scy

Member
That's probably why they removed the ilvl sync.

Get hyped guys, time to run every dungeon from WP to Hullbreaker.
 

BadRNG

Member
Didn't see that in the notes, looks like the directions were straight abolished except for adding a damage bonus to Chaos Thrust.
"Weapon skill direction requirements for the additional effect have been abolished.:"

The additional effect in this case would be the +15% damage. If you compare it to the ID wording:

"・Weaponskill direction requirements have been abolished, allowing combo bonuses when attacking from any position."

they specifically say combo bonus (aka the extra potency). There is no mention of normalizing HT potency to a certain amount like ID's either.
 
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