I'd echo the team's sentiments and rather they not be sold.
I agree it sucks that they're no longer tradeable, but that's something to lay at the feet of yoshiP and team for a solution.
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I'd echo the team's sentiments and rather they not be sold.
I agree it sucks that they're no longer tradeable, but that's something to lay at the feet of yoshiP and team for a solution.
It seems silly that they have qualms with people giving a gil alternative to those who can't afford more real money towards this game but they have no problem monetizing garbage looking mounts in a blatantly overpriced way.
How did they not expect this result in the first place? I honestly just assumed they realized it's better do it through themselves rather than deal with the shady sites. It's not the first MMO to effectively put gil selling in the game by the company (Wildstar does this with their alternative sub thing, I think EVE also has a similar piece)
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Well the crafters cry when any option is offered to sidestep the insane grind you have to put into this game to be rich. Squenix shouldn't have made crafting the only way to make money in this game to begin with. I remember how in original 2.0 you literally made all the money you ever would without crafting or gathering while leveling to 50, endgame dungeons gave literally no gil. After player outcry, they eventually made dungeons drop money and eased repair costs. They might try to fix the economy imbalance in Heavensward, who knows. As it is, since you have to grind in this game like it's a real life job to earn money, giving people a way to drop real life $20 to quick gil is seem as trivializing the grinding the super-rich crafters have done.
This is the same for any MMO, have no job in real life and you get plenty of time to grind out all in game money you want. Those with a job don't have that time so cash items are offered and made tradable so that those without the time for gil can drop a little real scratch and sell it to someone who doesn't have the real funds. It also side steps the bullshit issue of having items that people absolutely can't get without giving more money to the company on top of their sub.
But I digress, I forgot that RMT is bad unless it lines SE's pockets directly.
Meh, they can fuck right off, they have the foresight of a blind squirrel running through Inaba on the night of a murder, they'll keep making the same mistakes and people can keep capitalizing.
My favorite lack of foresight: "b-b-but I didn't know people would grind hunts so much!"
That's been SE's deal since XI.
What do you mean people are making oodles of cash through gardening, time to rip the community a new one.
Keep those expectations low brehs.
Crafters benefit from RMT due to the inflated market it brings. Who suffers are people who don't craft and are poor IRL / don't believe in spending extra money on a game. They are screwed by RMT because it inflates the market past what they can afford by playing the game casually, and that's why it's not fair.
Has there actually been crafters whining about the artisan turn-in nerfs? It helps new people immensely and helps the old guard mass generate Mastercrafts, so it seems pretty win/win.
I still think desynth is the unsung hero of the casual way to make OK money. Yes you have to get a craft to 30, but that takes almost no time and leveling desynth itself has progressively been made easier each patch. There's still some inevitable MMO grind, by there's not the massive gil wall crafting has.
I still think desynth is the unsung hero of the casual way to make OK money. Yes you have to get a craft to 30, but that takes almost no time and leveling desynth itself has progressively been made easier each patch. There's still some inevitable MMO grind, by there's not the massive gil wall crafting has.
Some of the people in my crafting LS were grumbling about it, but nothing actually serious. Most of them are too busy making money anyway. Regardless of how much they lower the bar, it seems like a huge majority of players simply don't craft seriously.
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Crafting is not regarded as fun by most players, much like tanking actually.
crazygambit
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What's the recommended way to level desynth for blacksmith nowadays? Starting from scratch. I also need to get my GSM higher, stuck at 84 so far. I'm thinking artisan headpiece is the way to go there, but it takes too long.
This thread on the OF is my go-to.
It's updated as of the new relic desynth items, so it should be okay, but people who desynth things other than fish and shoes may have better practical advice.
Or maybe they do and.....act like they don't. What if the mastermind is behind all of this? Who wants to become the blackened?
Pellegri Testament
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Which is kinda funny when at least half of their games have an antagonist that has a greed characteristic.
They were about 3-6mil depending on which plan you got, which the amount of gil is right when you go by gil seller prices. Rmt sets the standard when it comes to the conversion rate between gil/gold and money, it's been that way in every mmo.
5 million.
Funny because so does at least half of their leadership.
*Looks at SE's mobile prices, and their port prices*
I think they understand greed just fine.
The maint was only to fix the reservation system. The bracelets remain unique. Folks thinking it's untradable might be mistaken it after having done the quest, in which case, they become untradable.
Excellent.
Still not a good exchange for 20-40USD.
Granted if I had an item worth 5million USD I'd sell it, I'm kinda eyeing the 110 crafted accessories come 2.5. Buuuuuut, that still doesn't seem like a good exchange rate for pretend money.
Edit: Speaking of, if I want those accessories, do you guys think I'm better off just saving up a lot of Gil, hoarding First Coil mats, (what're the chances the accessories are made of wootz?) or gearing up my Miner so I can gather the materials needed myself?
FF14 team lives in a vacuum.
I don't know why you keep saying 20-40. It's 20, no range on it, the price doesn't fluctuate.
$4 for 1 million gil is I think cheaper than gil sellers that, with discount, are still charging close to $6/million.
I'm not interested in the RMT market, but if you don't have an in-game way to make money beyond grinding out cheap stuff $4 for a million isn't terrible. I probably waste more than $4 of my time every time I make a million in profit from blowing up shoes.
I thought it was 20 for gold and 40 for platinum? Haven't actually looked at the cash shop yet.
Also, yes that might be equal or better than RMT prices, but I never said that I found RMT prices to be a good conversion either. I just don't place THAT much value in Gil, which is at least part of the reason I haven't gone crazy with Crafting and Gathering.
10 for gold, 20 for platinum. Platinum sells for 5 million. Haven't seen anyone selling gold but I'm sure you could get some bozo to buy it for 3 mil.
That's Asami for you, constantly oozing positive energy. *sigh.*
HylianScribe
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Before maintenance (after we finished static time near the start of maintenance), my Platinum Wrist only said "Unique". After I logged back in, it said "UNIQUE" and "UNTRADEABLE". So...not sure what's up.
It's 40 if you have a cheapskate partner or you're paying for the entire marriage, in which you have to buy the bracelet 2x. Or 20 for Gold 2x.
Might be a half fix, I had a mate that just brought a bracelet after maint and it just said unique. I noticed that happened to mine too, but mine is definitely after having done most of the bond with someone. They really can't go barring the trading considering the situations involved with both parties. IE the above scenarios I mentioned
You know what they say about an idiot and his money /shrug
Did you initiate the quest? If so then that's why.
It said untradeable right when you got your dress.
Doesn't make lil comments like that any less negative.
Pellegri Testament
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To you maybe, but to the people who have trouble even breaking the million mark because they don't craft or hunt rare map/venture items? That's a majority in mmos usually and I can guarantee many of them would kill for a way to make more, without having to do what they deem boring or time consuming ingame.
SHOCKING NEWS: Asami is negative and SE is oblivious to the world.
Sounds like a thread title.
That reminds me. Who do I talk to about the spriggan hat?
Not me, even I think it's ugly and I'm rocking butt wings.
It's a treasure map drop. So, either level a Botonist, Fisher, or Miner to level 50, and gather one up every 18 hours, or spend 30K Gil a pop, and hope you get items that help you break even and/or make a profit.
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Monokuma was right! Goodbye Despair!
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All those Brayflox HM runs worked out in one way at least!
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