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[Jayhawk]

Let's start speculating about abilities they could add for MAX DPS on actual DPS jobs! Greased Lightning IV? Why not V? Blood for Blood 2! Ultra Internal Release!

That skill speed comment made earlier... If a MNK has a NIN and a BRD, then TP is less of an issue for MNK. With higher level gear adding more and more Skill Speed, people are going to have to start considering how much SS is needed to add an extra GCD while buffs like Blood for Blood are still up.

 

[studyguy]

Materia V will ruin lives.

 

[chrono01]

Let's start speculating about abilities they could add for MAX DPS on actual DPS jobs! Greased Lightning IV? Why not V? Blood for Blood 2! Ultra Internal Release!

Flair [Black Mage - Level 55 Ability]

Distract the enemy with your impeccable fashion sense. Stuns your opponent for 10 seconds, as well as increasing damage inflicted upon it.

180 Second Cooldown

Fire-GAAAAAAAAAAAH! [Black Mage - Level 60 Ability]

Light yourself on fire and use your own body as a weapon against the enemy. Can only be used once per battle, since it results in the users' death. Inflicts heavy damage upon anything that gets in your way, allies included.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

That skill speed comment made earlier... If a MNK has a NIN and a BRD, then TP is less of an issue for MNK. With higher level gear adding more and more Skill Speed, people are going to have to start considering how much SS is needed to add an extra GCD while buffs like Blood for Blood are still up.

Unless they start going overboard with ilvl in the expac, I wouldn't expect this to happen for a while, especially with a SS revamp. It was already made known a few months ago that stat values will be tinkered with when the level cap increases, meaning points will be worth less than they are now(this happens in all mmos with non insane amounts of lvls).

I wouldn't speculate on much of anything until they go over the details of the revamp, but when it happens I wouldn't even worry about how good or bad a lot of SS is.

I would also say when it comes to class overhauls, I 100% expect bard to get an overhaul when it comes to it's position in a raid. There is no way they are going to continue to require bards in every 8man raid for their songs, when 3 more classes are being added. I would expect them to make it more dps oriented than it already is, and either keep the songs and give them to another class so you have a choice when it comes to what you bring, or just get rid of songs all together and change tp/mp values for everyone so you don't have to worry about resources anymore(like WoW has done for years).

 

[studyguy]

DRG - [Mark of the Dragon Level 60]
Your place down a 3 yalm AoE marker where you currently stand. An attack will then land on you for a random % of your health.

Off GCD 30s cooldown (it takes time to res of course!)

 

[Item Box]

I just remembered that doom is a thing.

 

[Jayhawk]

Ranger's Chorus (Bard song level 60): Slowly drain party members' TP for increased Bard damage by 20%. Song ends when a party member hits 0 TP.

 

[scy]

Let's start speculating about abilities they could add for MAX DPS on actual DPS jobs!

Scholar's get a new Fairy: Summoner-egi.
Job: Summoner has been removed from the game.

I would also say when it comes to class overhauls, I 100% expect bard to get an overhaul when it comes to it's position in a raid. There is no way they are going to continue to require bards in every 8man raid for their songs, when 3 more classes are being added.

I'm personally hoping for some kind of overlap off-role. Like, Astrologian getting some of that MP/TP Regen utility out of the Healer slot so you don't feel pigeonholed into one class elsewhere for something.

Considering how they approach DF content (doable with any 2/2/4 spread), this is the road I personally hope they take.

 

[irfaanator]

dragoons: a legit utility skill

 

[Valor]

Ranger's Chorus (Bard song level 60): Slowly drain party members' TP for increased Bard damage by 20%. Song ends when a party member hits 0 TP.

Where do I sign up?

 

[rubius01]

I would also say when it comes to class overhauls, I 100% expect bard to get an overhaul when it comes to it's position in a raid. There is no way they are going to continue to require bards in every 8man raid for their songs, when 3 more classes are being added. I would expect them to make it more dps oriented than it already is, and either keep the songs and give them to another class so you have a choice when it comes to what you bring, or just get rid of songs all together and change tp/mp values for everyone so you don't have to worry about resources anymore(like WoW has done for years).

I am waiting for this day. Of course I'll be a machinist so it wont matter.

 

[scy]

I am waiting for this day. Of course I'll be a machinist so it wont matter.

MP/TP bots where

 

[rubius01]

MP/TP bots where

Le sigh. That would just be my luck. People will still bitch and moan that I dont have songs up. I'm a ranger dammit!!!

 

[ponpo]

dragoons: a legit utility skill

The noise Chaos Thrust makes pleases me and thus improves my performance. Thank you, Dragoons.

 

[WolvenOne]

I'm really not sure that bards are gonna become the pure TP class people fantasize about. If thier max output were really on par worth other classes, the ability to attack and move similtainiously would make them HECKA op.

Lower dps, with high utility, really makes sense for the class.

 

[QisTopTier]

I'm really not sure that bards are gonna become the pure TP class people fantasize about. If thier max output were really on par worth other classes, the ability to attack and move similtainiously would make them HECKA op.

Lower dps, with high utility, really makes sense for the class.

Bards are a support class in a game where they say there isn't support classes

 

[EndcatOmega]

I don't believe in bards. Neither should you.

 

[Kagari]

Le sigh. That would just be my luck. People will still bitch and moan that I dont have songs up. I'm a ranger dammit!!!

The lone ranger.

 

[Jeels]

Takato, I felt like you should know...

Sorry, I just can't help myself as EB ceremonies!!!

 

[tiggerkiddo]

And I thought I was shameless...

 

[WolvenOne]

To be fair, if Bards didn'the have to sing TP slash MP songs as often thier dps would be a bit closer to the rest of the classes.

I'm still holding out hope that they adjust skill speed and spell speed so that it increases the tp/MP recovery rate. Wouldn't even have to be at a 1 to 1 ratio to greatly alleviate these sorts of issues.

Bards would still need to sing mind you, just, not as often.

 

[irfaanator]

Takato, I felt like you should know...

Sorry, I just can't help myself as EB ceremonies!!!

dear lord

 

[Demoskinos]

Flair [Black Mage - Level 55 Ability]

Distract the enemy with your impeccable fashion sense. Stuns your opponent for 10 seconds, as well as increasing damage inflicted upon it.

180 Second Cooldown

Fire-GAAAAAAAAAAAH! [Black Mage - Level 60 Ability]

Light yourself on fire and use your own body as a weapon against the enemy. Can only be used once per battle, since it results in the users' death. Inflicts heavy damage upon anything that gets in your way, allies included.

I'm only down with this if we get a "Woooooooooooo" emote

 

[The Elite]

Looking to get back into playing again. I'm level 45 now and my next story mission is Garuda, which is a little daunting since I haven't really played much since September.

I will try to rejoin with the GAF tomorrow.

I think I am just going to do Fates for now until I get the hang of things again.

 

[Kagari]

To be fair, if Bards didn'the have to sing TP slash MP songs as often thier dps would be a bit closer to the rest of the classes.

I'm still holding out hope that they adjust skill speed and spell speed so that it increases the tp/MP recovery rate. Wouldn't even have to be at a 1 to 1 ratio to greatly alleviate these sorts of issues.

Bards would still need to sing mind you, just, not as often.

<_<

 

[Sorian]

<_<

Why the face, that was a fairly sensible post

Well except the second half, bards would still be lower dps even without songs.

 

[Taruranto]

DRG should get re-raise.

 

[irfaanator]

DRG should get re-raise.

dragoons should just ascend and never die. 1 man every fight

 

[DarknessTear]

All I get from Wolven's posts is that nobody should have to do their job correctly or work around the downsides that come with each job.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

He's just tired of carrying people.

 

[DarknessTear]

He's just tired of carrying people.

Nael whispered a different story into my ear.

Spoiler

I kid.

 

[Tomat]

Fuck T12 phase 3.

 

[Kagari]

Fuck T12 phase 3.

Fried chicken.

 

[Valor]

Fried chicken.

:v :v :v :v

Spoiler

:v

 

[Qvoth]

While on the topic of potential new skills, I had a thought few weeks ago about new smn or sch egi
Phoenix egi
Thoughts?
Regarding importance of bards, I know a group who cleared their t13 with no bard

 

[irfaanator]

While on the topic of potential new skills, I had a thought few weeks ago about new smn or sch egi
Phoenix egi
Thoughts?
Regarding importance of bards, I know a group who cleared their t13 with no bard

how many ninjas they got

 

[Kagari]

While on the topic of potential new skills, I had a thought few weeks ago about new smn or sch egi
Phoenix egi
Thoughts?
Regarding importance of bards, I know a group who cleared their t13 with no bard

I feel for them.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

Regarding importance of bards, I know a group who cleared their t13 with no bard

Was it an all caster(no lolmoners) or did it have at least 1 ninja in it? Because if it had a ninja then I would assume it was before the nerf and it was posted on reddit at some point, because that's not happening after without someone being tp starved to the point of being flat out carried.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Was it an all caster(no lolmoners) or did it have at least 1 ninja in it? Because if it had a ninja then I would assume it was before the nerf and it was posted on reddit at some point, because that's not happening after without someone being tp starved to the point of being flat out carried.

2ninjas 2blms? Not sure how viable a group without monk is and that's some terrible class spread for loots but you have no TP or MP issues with such a setup(besides maybe healers but eh).

 

[lazybones18]

Know I'm late with saying this but I do appreciate the GAF FC carrying me through Titan EX tonight. Just wish that big fucker didn't send me to my doom during the final phase. With that out of the way, I can finally try out the other EX Primals

 

[dcye]

I can finally try out the other EX Primals

Could've done that without killing him tbf

 

[lazybones18]

Could've done that without killing him tbf

I know but I would prefer to do them in order

 

[Kagari]

Titan is still the best one anyway.

 

[plake]

Titan is still the best one anyway.

Slash worst one.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Leviathan and Mog still have the best music.

 

[AlphaDragoon]

Dropped T11 tonight, 12 should be interesting.

 

[Nohar]

Leviathan and Mog still have the best music.

No. Mog's song is wonderful, but Leviathan's? It's pretty "meh".

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Shiva's is the definition of meh, especially the second half where it goes j-pop.

 

[ponpo]

The only way to parse dps on console is to get a PC player to do it for you, right?

Blub. I don't care that much, just curious. I'll just use my enmity position to judge how well I'm doing ( &#8790;&#8255;&#8790

 

[Pyros_Eien]

The only way to parse dps on console is to get a PC player to do it for you, right?

Blub. I don't care that much, just curious. I'll just use my enmity position to judge how well I'm doing ( &#8790;&#8255;&#8790

You can stream to twitch then watch it and add up all the numbers. Fun guaranteed. Just get people in the FC to tell you how well you did after a fight, a lot of people parse, just no one bitches about the parses because TOS and stuff.