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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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chrono01

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If they are even remotely competent, your purchase of the physical CE will come with a code of some sort for your account. I highly doubt you need to wait for the box to start playing the content.
The Realm Reborn CE didn't come with a code. :(

I mean, I could go the digital route, but I need/want that statue and all of the physical extras. Plus, it'll look nice sitting alongside my Realm Reborn CE.
 

Sorian

Banned
The Realm Reborn CE didn't come with a code. :(

I mean, I could go the digital route, but I need/want that statue and all of the physical extras. Plus, it'll look nice sitting alongside my Realm Reborn CE.

Realm reborn was a brand new game, this is an expansion. Different rules usually apply.
 

aceface

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If they are even remotely competent, your purchase of the physical CE will come with a code of some sort for your account. I highly doubt you need to wait for the box to start playing the content.

Squares online store competent? Hahahaha

But for the last few collectors editions they have been available on Amazon.
 

Sorian

Banned
Squares online store competent? Hahahaha

But for the last few collectors editions they have been available on Amazon.

I don't need the square store to be competent. I need yoship to be competent. I know my odds are just as low but the distinction is necessary.
 

chrono01

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I'm just saying what any other MMO would use as common sense. This is SE so logic may not always apply.
Of all of the physical CE's I've purchased of MMO's, I've never received a download code in addition to the physical package. Many of them were expansions too, such as those from WoW.

That's why I'm not expecting it to happen here either, although it would be nice.
Squares online store competent? Hahahaha

But for the last few collectors editions they have been available on Amazon.
Not in Canada they aren't. We still don't have a listing for the Type-0 CE. :(
 

chrono01

Member
Got my T10 win, started FCoB last week, I heard T11 is easier, is that true?
T11 isn't too bad, assuming you can deal with the tethers. If you can, it's really not so bad at all. It's more of a coordination fight than anything else.

I mean, you still need the DPS to clear the add phase, but it's not terribly difficult. The majority of groups will likely wipe trying to understand/coordinate the blue/green tethers.

BTW, congrats on your T10 clear!
 

Hasemo

(;・∀・)ハッ?
I wonder when will they decide to tell us if we need to buy the expansion for each platform or is one enough for the whole account.
 

Mesharey

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Once you learn it, yes. But the learning curve of 11 is harder than 10.

T11 isn't too bad, assuming you can deal with the tethers. If you can, it's really not so bad at all. It's more of a coordination fight than anything else.

I mean, you still need the DPS to clear the add phase, but it's not terribly difficult. The majority of groups will likely wipe trying to understand/coordinate the blue/green tethers.

BTW, congrats on your T10 clear!
Thank you both! :D
 

Gromph

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I wonder when will they decide to tell us if we need to buy the expansion for each platform or is one enough for the whole account.

You will need a copy for each platform. :)
 

mileS

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How's the PS3 performance? Main reason I ask is my girlfriends PC can barely run WoW (so pc is out of the question there) I was thinking about picking her up a copy on PS3 for her so we can play together.
 

Gromph

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How's the PS3 performance? Main reason I ask is my girlfriends PC can barely run WoW (so pc is out of the question there) I was thinking about picking her up a copy on PS3 for her so we can play together.

Buy her a ps4 better.
 
How's the PS3 performance? Main reason I ask is my girlfriends PC can barely run WoW (so pc is out of the question there) I was thinking about picking her up a copy on PS3 for her so we can play together.

I'm playing my trial on ps3. Unless your girlfriend is the 60fps or bust type I think it will be fine. I play a lot of old games and the game runs fine for me although there are some times where there is a massive popup problem. Like waiting for quest npcs to pop in. I had that problem at the pugulist guild and at the inn of that town. My wife says the game looks pretty (but she has no interest in playing).

Keep this in mind though. I read that they will only support the first expansion for ps3. So if she is still playing around the 2nd expansion (and you want to buy it), you will need another solution. Also, get a keyboard for your ps3 unless you never type to anyone.

Best way to decide if she likes it is to download the trial. You can use it to benchmark the performance if she is already sure she is going to play.
 
last stage zodiac is 125 right? i think there's no other weapon at that ilevel, it's either 120 or 130, best weapons in the game are 135 from turn 13

I see.

I hear you can only level one relic weapon at a time so if I do get another class to max I'd like to get a non-relic weapon for them instead.
 
You can level mutliple relics at the same time

Really?

Thinking about it more I'm not sure if I want to go through the relic grind again. I'm actually on the atma portion of it for my PLD and I'm finding that to be somewhat time consuming due to the random drop rate.

If I can get a good weapon for whatever job I level next then I'll probably go with that if it's less time consuming.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Story Speculation! Spoilers ahoy!

The prevailing theory out there is that something will happen to Nanamo. I have a different thought. We know Teleji is planning something against her. We know that she is planning to hand over the government to the people. The Syndicate won't let that happen. I think an attempt will be made on her life, but Raubahn will actually take the fall somehow. He will foil the plot, but will be a martyr that galvanizes the people of Ul'dah and Nanamo. The people rally around her, strengthening her position as Sultana. She uses a unified Ul'dah to cast out the Syndicate altogether. Teleji's plans are ruined, but he makes a run for it to Omega Weapon. Then we fight.

I think would play out better than Nanamo taking the fall. Raubahn isn't a leader in the political sense, but he has the hearts of the people. His death would rally the city, and the entire alliance. It would break poor Nanamo's heart though. =(
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Never ceases to amaze me how people can come into a zone 5 minutes after I see the first call of an S-rank and then bitch about people not "waiting." Waiting for what exactly, you and your network of smoke signals or tin cans with strings tied between them to get wind of a mob to kill? These are probably the same people that enter said zone and shout "inv plz" instead of just opening the party finder and joining one of the dozen available groups with vacancies.
 
Really?

Thinking about it more I'm not sure if I want to go through the relic grind again. I'm actually on the atma portion of it for my PLD and I'm finding that to be somewhat time consuming due to the random drop rate.

If I can get a good weapon for whatever job I level next then I'll probably go with that if it's less time consuming.

I believe you can only have one atma book on you at one time, which is probably where the leveling one at a time comes from. But the later stages dont really have anything like that
 

Tash

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The official forums always piss me off. Especially those incredibly retarded WHM vs SCH threads. Now, of course, we have the new ones saying that one or the other is going to be useless after AST is going to be introduced because everyone and their mother now exactly what the new healer is going to look like.

I mean, I am all for theorycrafting and discussion but if you have the whole WHM vs SCH bullshit and then the AST assumption on top it just gets mindbogglingly stupid.
 
The official forums always piss me off. Especially those incredibly retarded WHM vs SCH threads. Now, of course, we have the new ones saying that one or the other is going to be useless after AST is going to be introduced because everyone and their mother now exactly what the new healer is going to look like.

I mean, I am all for theorycrafting and discussion but if you have the whole WHM vs SCH bullshit and then the AST assumption on top it just gets mindbogglingly stupid.

welcome to the official forums
 

Tash

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Once you learn it, yes. But the learning curve of 11 is harder than 10.

I don't agree. T11 is definitely easier than T10 to learn. Especially T10s last 20% are hard because you really need to be on the ball and can also still get screwed up if you are unlucky.

T11 is just totally straight forward. Last phase is just: Do tanks have tethers or not and then "dodge left"..

Granted, this is coming from the SCH pov who has to deal with Preys :p

welcome to the official forums
Sure, but in any other offical mmo forums there are at least 10 different topics (per class) that get repeated and whined upon. In FFXIV it's only a handful which says a lot about the depth of the gameplay :p Or in the healer forum's case - it's pretty much only one.
Still, I should know better, I guess. It's just that every month, once, I make a new attempt and hope for some meaningful discussion and then get slapped in the face with the same threads still going on and people still talking in circles.
 
The official XIV forums are the Wild wild West...they are to be visited if you either want a good laugh or to weep for humanity...or both at the same time.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
I mean, I am all for theorycrafting and discussion but if you have the whole WHM vs SCH bullshit and then the AST assumption on top it just gets mindbogglingly stupid.

"Every solo healing clear has been done by a SCH so WHM will have to go when AST is out!"
 

MogCakes

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There are some lazy ass SCHs in this game. I keep running into one in DF runs that literally just stands there and does nothing. Only started doing shit when I called them out.
 

Nohar

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There are some lazy ass SCHs in this game. I keep running into one in DF runs that literally just stands there and does nothing. Only started doing shit when I called them out.

Well, you have some SCH who just follow you and let their fairy do all the work (and it is enough in some battles), which is indeed quite infuriating. A good SCH should DPS in dungeon, unless the tank needs healing of course.
Sadly, it is not only SCH: a lot of WHM too do nothing but healing, when they perfectly could help with DPS (Regen is often powerful enough to keep the tank alive, allowing you to go into Cleric stance and Holy-spam the mobs, with the added sweet effect of stunning them, or the classical Aero II, Aero and Stone II spam).
I also met a WHM who never used Regen on the tanks during T6, something which baffled me. I had to ask him to use it. Oddly enough, things went smoother afterwards (2 Regen do wonders to a tank's health).
 

Ken

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Eh, I don't see an issue with Scholars or White Mages not DPSing in dungeons. If you want efficiency you roll premade. No need to project your idea of what the DF Healer role stands for onto others.
 

Nohar

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Eh, I don't see an issue with Scholars or White Mages not DPSing in dungeons. If you want efficiency you roll premade. No need to project your idea of what the DF Healer role stands for onto others.

And I see no issue with wanting efficiency: I like smooth runs. I always do my best with every job I play, and I expect the same from everyone who has been playing the game for a while (ie. I have no problem with people discovering a content or their job, it is normal for them to not play in an optimal way). Most dungeons (and I mean exclusively dungeons, not raids and boss fights in which mana consumption can become an issue and the party needs to be healed constantly) are quite easy and the tank usually doesn't need much healing (except if he pulls a lot of trash mobs and/or is understuffed), so yes I expect healers to help the DPS instead of remaining idle and yawn while the other members are pulling their weight. They have Cleric Stance and some DPS spells, why not use them?
 

MogCakes

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I was more referring to a specific player I've encountered multiple times in Ramuh HM that literally stands there and does nothing the entire fight. I called her(?) out as AFK/doing nothing in the middle of one of them and she replied by saying 'no I'm healing, look' and casted succor...once. The other healer was picking up her slack. Mind you the fight is hardly noteworthy, but FFS help us finish the damn thing faster if you have nothing else to do.
 

IMBored

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Finally reading the prelim patch notes, they're adding carbontwine/coats to CT and ST? Since they don't have weekly lockout that would mean 130ilevel for everyone.

Edit: Hildy Flex emote = greatest patch
 

Nohar

Member
I was more referring to a specific player I've encountered multiple times in Ramuh HM that literally stands there and does nothing the entire fight. I called her(?) out as AFK/doing nothing in the middle of one of them and she replied by saying 'no I'm healing, look' and casted succor...once. The other healer was picking up her slack. Mind you the fight is hardly noteworthy, but FFS help us finish the damn thing faster if you have nothing else to do.

Your example reminds me of that one healer I met in ST who never did anything and just kept jumping around (litteraly), and became rude when I called him out on it.
 

Alrus

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Eh, I don't see an issue with Scholars or White Mages not DPSing in dungeons. If you want efficiency you roll premade. No need to project your idea of what the DF Healer role stands for onto others.

I can understand a new healer not being confident enough to not dps in dungeons but when you're more experienced I don't see a reason not be in cleric stance nearly 100% of the time outside of laziness, at least for the lower level stuff. Especially as a SCH. You're just actively making the run longer for yourself and your party.
 

Tash

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Eh, I don't see an issue with Scholars or White Mages not DPSing in dungeons. If you want efficiency you roll premade. No need to project your idea of what the DF Healer role stands for onto others.

For me this comes down to pride. I prefer playing my SCH over my WHM because there is much more I can do on my SCH in a dungeon. I would feel like a leech not helping with dps. It might take a few mobs until I have figured out how experienced the tank is, how he is pulling and also check out their gear so I know how I can play. I always DPS, it's more of a question on how long I can stay in cleric stance and if I have to switch at all.
 

Nohar

Member
80 percent of players are just happy to push buttons.

Well, that much is true. Truth to be told, it seems that the players who want to improve themselves and be the best at what they do is the minority.
Please note that it is perfectly fine to just want to chill and play, but most challenges of the game require that everyone play (very) well, and some mecanics are very unforgiving. So it is natural that at some point some of us expect others to learn to play well enough: only teamwork can lead to victory, and if some members aren't doing their part, some challenges become downright impossible to beat.
 

Ken

Member
I can understand a new healer not being confident enough to not dps in dungeons but when you're more experienced I don't see a reason not be in cleric stance nearly 100% of the time outside of laziness, at least for the lower level stuff. Especially as a SCH. You're just actively making the run longer for yourself and your party.

Longer by how much though?

And I see no issue with wanting efficiency: I like smooth runs. I always do my best with every job I play, and I expect the same from everyone who has been playing the game for a while (ie. I have no problem with people discovering a content or their job, it is normal for them to not play in an optimal way). Most dungeons (and I mean exclusively dungeons, not raids and boss fights in which mana consumption can become an issue and the party needs to be healed constantly) are quite easy and the tank usually doesn't need much healing (except if he pulls a lot of trash mobs and/or is understuffed), so yes I expect healers to help the DPS instead of remaining idle and yawn while the other members are pulling their weight. They have Cleric Stance and some DPS spells, why not use them?

Since when did smooth equal fast runs, as quicker pulls is all a DPS healer really adds. Also how do you know for certain the other members are pulling their weight?

Healers seem to get a lot of flak because them not DPSing is the most obvious by if Cleric Stance is active or not, but I've seen some terrible DPS that you wouldn't be able to tell without a parser or checking their rotation. So...I really don't get this beeline towards non-DPS healers as the only reason for 20 minute Snowcloak rather than 15.

If you want all healers to DPS, then I want all DPS to put out numbers appropriate for their gear.

For me this comes down to pride. I prefer playing my SCH over my WHM because there is much more I can do on my SCH in a dungeon. I would feel like a leech not helping with dps. It might take a few mobs until I have figured out how experienced the tank is, how he is pulling and also check out their gear so I know how I can play. I always DPS, it's more of a question on how long I can stay in cleric stance and if I have to switch at all.

That's fine and players like you are what the commendation system was built for.
 
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