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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale
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My favorite patch fix haha. Explains a few things.
Wha?!
Yeeeeaaah, that thought occurred to me, and I just can't see any way to make that work. Maybe with the Dread arms and accuracy food, but it'd be super iffy. I'd prefer to T13 Tank Chest for that reason alone.
tiggerkiddo
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Cerberus boss was the coolest looking boss of WoD.
edgefusion
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Why is the game down for maintenance. We just had day long maintenance.
I booked today off work.
Why.
I booked today off work.
Why.
Mama told me never to trust a two-faced bear...
Only for another hour.
tiggerkiddo
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You should be used to this by now. The days after a big patch always have hiccups.
Strategically cropped avatar.
FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Hotfixes (Jan. 21, 2015)
The following issues have been addressed.
An issue in Amdapor Keep (Hard) wherein the boss would occasionally cease to use certain actions under specific circumstances.
An issue in The World of Darkness boss battle wherein a second screen blackout would occasionally occur after moving to a different area.
An issue wherein Frontline servers would occasionally crash under certain conditions.
An issue with the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding wherein, under specific circumstances, the ceremony would proceed with a guest being treated as the host.
An issue wherein shards/crystals/clusters would not be displayed or able to be purchased from the estate ground retainers sale list when put on sale.
What if you ride the ADS like Bugenhagen....zawa...
Also there is Red Mage Chocobo barding now.
Wow a turtle mount....... I think I'm still sleeping. I've been wanting one for as long as I can remember. This game is going to be played for a very long time. Also not enough credit can be given to the team for the remaster of the World of Darkness theme, so freaking good.
I pref the T13 chest too but we dont have it down yet so thats future stuff but yea it doesnt work.. To bad tho need to do moar deeps!
Was really proud pushing 350 in t10 last time
crazygambit
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I wanted to get the Lucis for my 3 star GSM since that means you could have more relaxed melds on the off hand, but I went just nope.
I ended up just getting the off-hand with the sealants I saved last week, and then just went for the books. It only took me 4 tries to get the 3 HQ turn ins which was nice, so I didn't have to bother reclaiming.
The melds on the off hand was the worst thing. Again I went through about 50 Craft 1 for the 2 final slots, but it was worth it to get to 453. I'm pretty happy with my 4* rotation. I got the 3 platinum ingots HQ starting from 0 (I had the foresight to buy a lot of NQ platinum ore super cheap before the patch). To be fair I only got 2 to 100% and the other I messed up and finished at 21% and still got HQ.
I had time to make 1 HQ tank accessory which I put on the board. If it doesn't sell I'll just keep it for myself. It had 21 VIT and 19 Crit, which means you only need Det IV, Det IV, STR IV, STR IV, STR III to fully meld. Sounds fun. I'm thinking that's BiS for tanks though.
Of course I didn't play anything related to the new instances. The real game is in crafting now.
Edit: Looking over at the stats for the other tank accessories it's definitely BiS IMO.
The Dreadwyrm bracelets are 27 VIT 22 Parry and 11 DET, but the ilvl110 crafted one ends up at 21 VIT 18 STR 12 Det and 19 Crit. It's just way better. Good luck with those melds though.
Poetics body is so good though! Acc/DET!
I've not actually resubscribed yet. Plan to after I finish work on Friday. I skipped out on 2.4 so I've got whatever content is left from that patch to do as well. However I do expect to get bored of this after a couple of weeks due to lack of content. Still having 2nd coil be repeatable and the lift on the Soldiery tomes will be nice to gear my WAR up, and hopefully let me get my DRG gear from T8 and T9 which never dropped earlier
Still I'm really looking forward to test out my DRG with the new enhancements post patch. Sure I knew they weren't as good as other classes, but that rarely came into play. If you are a good player, then it doesn't really matter what class you are. I out DPS'd a lot of the other classes with weaker gear most of the time. It was only when playing with really good players i fell behind. The amount of people who didn't know their combos properly. So many DRG's that either never bothered using the ID/Dis/CT combo, or didn't get it in from behind
Stupid LolDRG's
Oh yeah it is. But I have no Poetics and so many things to spend it on. And the WoD gear is 44/31 Crit/Acc which I'd prefer over i120 Poetic Body. It'll serve me quite usefully until I can upgrade it to i130. I have no desire to do Hunts again. Once was bad enough. So by the time I get enough Carbontwine to enhance everything, my poetics will be enough to get my body. That is if I figured it all out right!
It's okay. Golden Saucer will save us! we can run WP HM and Odin 50 times going for those rare card drops!
I think I'm mostly just salty about no EX Primal this patch.
Back to trying to convince 7 people to carry me through Shiva so I can do it with the UI turned off because I think it will look pretty.
PhillipCostigan
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I don't really get a lot of the disappointment. The only piece of content I was straight up disappointed with was Odin, because it's just a glorified DPS and Healer check. Like I fucked up by using LB2 at a random time mid-fight, died and we still beat it.
I enjoyed WP hard mode. I fell like mechanics were a bit easy to circumvent but it was adorable with all the Tonberries and stuff.
Keeper was a fun dungeon. Enemy variety was strange, but I enjoyed all the boss fights and the Midgardsormr fight was great.
Haven't done AK yet, so can't comment on that.
My first experience with WoD was the full GAF 24 person Alliance and that was tonnes of fun. I think WoD has some really cool mechanics, looks awesome and was just all round fun to play.
The main story was the most interesting it has been in a long time, backed up by the awesome mystery trial. The only disappointment there is that there's no reason to go back and spam that because I thought it was a really fun, clever and well designed trial that required coordination and brains. It was like the exact opposite of the Odin fight.
Likewise with the Hildibrand questline, which was hilarious this patch. Have yet to do Gilgamesh this time around but the quest chain and cut scenes were ace.
It's tough to tell how long that stuff will all be interesting for, but my impressions so far are really positive. great patch imo.
All those times you yelled at Kingtut and he was on to something.
I'm in this patch for gold saucer. CT dungeons have never been that great to me and the rest delivered exactly on par.
Edit: Well Odin was underwhelming but I blame bad fanfest players for hyping it up.
I think most of us were expecting Odin to be an Extreme primal. We usually get one per patch, and it was touted as a more challenging version of the Fanfest encounter (which from what I can tell means "we removed silence working.")
It wasn't until the interview calling him easier than Shiva and the patch notes not tagging him as EX that we had any indicator. I mean, it's been mentioned, but carry groups were pre-selling Odin runs.
It wasn't until the interview calling him easier than Shiva and the patch notes not tagging him as EX that we had any indicator. I mean, it's been mentioned, but carry groups were pre-selling Odin runs.
Odin is a bitch for healers though, even more so if people keep taking avoidable dmg. I found it funish though but didn't clear it before people started leaving.
about to do World of Darkness before I start on Story/Hildebrand stuff. (not sure what I'll do first there, probably Hilde because it's just 5 quests long which shouldn't take too long)
about to do World of Darkness before I start on Story/Hildebrand stuff. (not sure what I'll do first there, probably Hilde because it's just 5 quests long which shouldn't take too long)
PhillipCostigan
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you don't need 3 Healers unless your DPS can't avoid AoEs.
I lag quite a bit, play MNK and still avoided pretty much every AoE except for the time I did the stupid limit thing.
Like the AoEs aren't particularly difficult to avoid.
The issues are going to come with the DPS checks.
3 healers? lol
Maybe I should name change to Thirdhealer Required.
I'd be really curious to see numbers on the Odin DPS check. From what I can tell, Odin is just a somewhat demanding job competence check. His big tank attack mandates tank cooldown rotation and timed heals, the raid-wide damage and unavoidable dispellable bleed require non terrible healing, and the DPS check at the end requires some level of correct button-pushing.
The entire encounter is just, like, Try Not To Suck And That's It, which is not fun.
I'd be really curious to see numbers on the Odin DPS check. From what I can tell, Odin is just a somewhat demanding job competence check. His big tank attack mandates tank cooldown rotation and timed heals, the raid-wide damage and unavoidable dispellable bleed require non terrible healing, and the DPS check at the end requires some level of correct button-pushing.
The entire encounter is just, like, Try Not To Suck And That's It, which is not fun.
Pug healers don't cleanse bleed
Well if you're intriguing me. I did have all crafts maxed, and it was getting a bit boring.
Thank ya'll for the answers. I'll be back on the xpac.
SoraanTribal
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The Crystal Tower attunement questline is the perfect example of terrible design. Boring as hell objectives behind waiting for FATEs to spawn, "go here to collect item from merchant, oh wait, of COURSE it's out of stock, go here to get item.", "go to this location to collect item, oh wait, nope, it's not here because someone took it, go to THIS location instead." It's just completely stupid.
Many of you are probably long beyond this, but what is T6/7 farming like these days? I last did it back in August sometime and the raids were pretty easy with a decent group, and it's been nerfed since. However I also imagine most of the better players have moved on and I'll be playing with people who can't avoid giving the boss stacks. Want to gear up my alt WAR though
And what about Shiva Ex? While there's nothing for my WAR there, I want both the weapon and bracelet for my DRG.
And what about Shiva Ex? While there's nothing for my WAR there, I want both the weapon and bracelet for my DRG.
I know. I've beaten it. (With 2 sch too lol)
I was speaking of the "easy" way, I can see a lot of people struggling to pass the einherjar phase and try to cheese it with 3 healers.
Demoskinos
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Many of you are probably long beyond this, but what is T6/7 farming like these days? I last did it back in August sometime and the raids were pretty easy with a decent group, and it's been nerfed since. However I also imagine most of the better players have moved on and I'll be playing with people who can't avoid giving the boss stacks. Want to gear up my alt WAR though
And what about Shiva Ex? While there's nothing for my WAR there, I want both the weapon and bracelet for my DRG.
You can get through T6 and 7 pretty easily these days with PUG groups. Shiva just got echo so that might be slightly easier as well.
That's why they made the newer ones like 30 seconds long.
There's a reason you never saw a FATE attunement following the first one.
It was fucking horrid and everyone including the devs realized it.
Learned that the hard way. Went in with Alice, we found out after the first wipe that she could esuna bleed but when the PUG SCH (who could have at least Adlo the tank but didn't
) got told after the second fight that it could be leeched, they were like "it can't".and after the 3rd wipe, people left.
Anyway just completed WoD, only one wipe and that was on the trash fight with Queen Scyllia.
Pretty easy but fun. Rather involved boss fights but will take time to get used to some mechanics that I got hit by quite a bit.
Probably the most difficult of the CT raids but I enjoyed it. Was actually quite surprised we didn't wipe on an actual boss lol.
SoraanTribal
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That's really good to hear. I hope they improve the questing in the expansion in general. There's very few interesting quests in the entire 1-50 story experience. Too much running around and talking that has no bearing on the main story whatsoever.
Pyros_Eien
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I don't cleanse the bleed. Faster to just Succor twice and absorb all the damage than cleanse the entire group, and also a lot more mana efficient. Medica II will cover any bleeding damage that happened between the succor. I only cleanse the tank. I don't know about DPS check being that hard, it didn't look we had crazy DPS numbers when I did it, we had 2 tanks(warrior DPSing paladin tanking) and one DPS under the offtank damage and we still had a lot of time to spare at the end with only a LB2 charged(well "lot", like 10seconds). Though it was a GAF run so that's still a lot better than pugging it.
I do think a lot of the disapointment from this patch comes from not really having anything to actually farm, at the end of the day. People always complain about farming stuff and shit, but ultimately, it's something to do. Odin dropping some garbage gear that doesn't even look that good and no mount, no EX gilga or odin, WoD having a lockout(expected but still), means you're kinda done with the patch in a few days and other than the EX roulette being different now, it's the same thing as 2.4. Even crafting was fairly disapointing, though the new house stuff looks cool. So now we wait for the Gold Saucer savior.
Personally though, I feel it's a pretty nice patch, I like all the new content, for the most part. WP has way too much trash, Kotl last bosses seems like it'll be a pain to do in a bad group(like the one I had my first time clearing it) but WoD was fucking amazing imo, I like the weekly crystal tower series quest idea, I like that they didn't go full stupid mode with the crafting additions and the story so far is really nice.
I'm getting really confused at all these tanks saying nothing in WoD for them when there's two Crit/Det pieces (Chest, Boots). And to avoid more quotes, the Shiva Axe is the best of the i110-115 range weapons unless you're desperate for Accuracy + the Slaying wrist is really good.
To expand on the issue, the tank Blackfire had to be pre-dodged slightly while the DPS/Healer ones could wait for the actual thing to spawn before moving.
If I ever go back in again, I'll keep an eye on it. I think it's fairly lenient pre-Zantetsuken and the actual Zantetsuken part is still a sub-2k check.
I tagged along on a T6 farm last weekend and if the group is mostly solid you can down Rafflesia with 84 minutes left on the clock; so trash+boss in six minutes or less. 7 takes longer and is more prone to hilarity but if you can get a solid group it's easily doable.
Nobody really farms 8 and I don't really pay attention to 9 farms since I still can't divebombs.
Shiva EX farm groups seem more prone to take forever per clear as people die repeatedly but it's recoverable.
The lack of anything new to really farm this patch will probably extend the life of SCoB and Shiva alt loot farms at least until Saucer hits.
Oh that's cool. I just have bad memories of playing with groups that keep being swallowed or flash Melusine (and the MT!) all the time. Farming for my WAR won't be a priority, but it'll be nice to get done
I'll admit tanking isn't exactly my specialty. While I haven't had difficulty tanking anything I've came across, it's still secondary to my DRG. I was under the impression once you met the Acc cap, Parry was the only important stat to worry about afterwards for my WAR. So I kinda wanted the T9 HA Weapon instead.
And yeah I want the True Ice Bracelet's for my DRG!
You can leech einherjar bleed, but not the one during adds phase.
Based on my experience, I don't think it's worth trying to leech all party bleed, most of the time it ended up with some dps or event he tank dead because not enough healing. Just Esuna the MT and heal though it.
Based on my experience, I don't think it's worth trying to leech all party bleed, most of the time it ended up with some dps or event he tank dead because not enough healing. Just Esuna the MT and heal though it.
T6 had the auto-wipes removed from the fight so it's pretty much now just "kill the boss before you die, guest-starring mechanics."
T7 is 99% hilarity, 1% rage.
No. Accuracy to what you need and then a fairly normal Det > Crit > SSPD (with a few breakpoints being better due to Berserk timings) allocation. Parry returns aren't that good and Parry itself isn't a reliable enough stat to warrant stacking it with how tanking / healing in this game works. If you end up with 0 +Parry in your gear, you really won't be that much harder to heal in most content, especially as a Warrior.
I meant for your Warrior~
Edit: To expand, you get a fair amount of mileage simply from doing more damage (plus Warriors get to fairly easily just ... DPS in many fights) and the Fending wrist being so-so lends itself well to being replaced for some extra Strength. If you're fully stacked VIT everywhere else, you're still well over the HP threshold you really need for most content in the game.
Basically, it's a nice piece to start getting used to trading "excess" VIT for STR so you can tank just as well as before except with better enmity generation + getting to deal more damage.
I haven't healed the fight yet, only tanked it, but the bleed doesn't actually hit that hard. DS + Medica 2 with current average gear should more-or-less keep up with it.
If people can't dodge + there's a bleed, I guess that's a problem but that's still 8 GCDs (or 4 and 4) to cleanse them all and I dunno if that's worth it.
T7 is 99% hilarity, 1% rage.
No. Accuracy to what you need and then a fairly normal Det > Crit > SSPD (with a few breakpoints being better due to Berserk timings) allocation. Parry returns aren't that good and Parry itself isn't a reliable enough stat to warrant stacking it with how tanking / healing in this game works. If you end up with 0 +Parry in your gear, you really won't be that much harder to heal in most content, especially as a Warrior.
I meant for your Warrior~
Edit: To expand, you get a fair amount of mileage simply from doing more damage (plus Warriors get to fairly easily just ... DPS in many fights) and the Fending wrist being so-so lends itself well to being replaced for some extra Strength. If you're fully stacked VIT everywhere else, you're still well over the HP threshold you really need for most content in the game.
Basically, it's a nice piece to start getting used to trading "excess" VIT for STR so you can tank just as well as before except with better enmity generation + getting to deal more damage.
I haven't healed the fight yet, only tanked it, but the bleed doesn't actually hit that hard. DS + Medica 2 with current average gear should more-or-less keep up with it.
If people can't dodge + there's a bleed, I guess that's a problem but that's still 8 GCDs (or 4 and 4) to cleanse them all and I dunno if that's worth it.
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