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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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aceface

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Wiping to Thunder in T9 is not fun. Last phase is actually less hard than I thought it would be, but people get desperate there and mess things up. But I think I'm finally get my win this week, I've been able to get decent parties in PF with "divebombs exp required".

I'll finally stop hating people with Dreadwyrm stuff. How much harder is FcoB, compared to ScoB? I got all turns (except 9) cleared before nerfs and echo.

The earlier turns in final coil are mechanically not as hard as T9. It just that everything hits harder as you would expect. Healers and tanks have to be on their toes. DPS checks are pretty strict too.
 
Max CP you can get is 355, you can do this with 10 less CP, but for 4* I like the extra CP, means the difference between 87 or 90 to finish, and you can't with 87. If you are going Goldsmith with 2x Twinthread + 1x Silver ingot, it is expensive! For Blacksmith, Spruce Plywood, you only need 1x Spruce Lumber and you can mass synth 2x Horn Glue from the Aldgoat Horns from the Kobold Vendor... the most expensive part is the shards.

I don't know what I'm missing to get to 355. Did a new accessory come out and I missed it?

You are right that's it's convenient to start with all NQ items, but I think I've come up with something a little better.

12 touches 369 CP. Even at 352 it's only an NQ stone soup, which is vendor sold at 37 gil. 12 touches, 11 at 80%, one at 50% fully macroable, no ToTs needed. It has a much better chance to HQ. You can miss 2 touches and still be guaranteed 100%. You have a 47% chance of getting at least 10 touches and 73% of getting 9 (which gets you to around 90%).

The rotation is CZ, IQ, WN, SH2, HT*5, SH2, HT, CZ, HT*3, MM2, HT, SH2, HT*2, GS, ING2, BB, CS2*3.

You could have that one HT under SH2 if you didn't use ING2 on BB, but it's worse. The Ingenuity really helps on 2 star recipes.

Edit: I realized where I was counting wrong. I haven't melded my WVR off-hand yet. I have 352 on the others. Still rocking the ixal gloves.
 

studyguy

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The earlier turns in final coil are mechanically not as hard as T9. It just that everything hits harder as you would expect. Healers and tanks have to be on their toes. DPS checks are pretty strict too.

Having everyone panic is the worst issue in T9. It's not enough that one guy got knocked out mid way, you can still totally recover, but the newer teams that freak out and end up crashing mechanics into the rest of the group is the issue.

Like T11, I just focus on what I'm doing and nothing but. If someone else fucks up, that's on them.

Also ran AK hard for the first time last night. That's a short dungeon!
I was low on poes so I ran it like 3 times. Each time a DPS was racing ahead of me. I get the idea to speedrun sure, but lmao at least stay behind the tank. One of them got blown away pushing way ahead of the group.
 
12 is down.
Rip in KFC.
That last phase though.

Is relatively easy if people are talking (to get topped of if tether/fountain, passing debuff etc)

We got past the second fountain only 3 times before we cleared it for the first time last night. We have never cleared a turn that fast and i was kind of in shock.
 
So I've been bitten by the gathering bug. Instead of using the money I was saving for the i110 crafted I'm buying and melding botany gear. It's just so... relaxing...
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
Is relatively easy if people are talking (to get topped of if tether/fountain, passing debuff etc)

We got past the second fountain only 3 times before we cleared it for the first time last night. We have never cleared a turn that fast and i was kind of in shock.

Coordination was fine (although I confused fountain of fire order a couple of times), it's pinions coming from everywhere that made me panic like never before.
But the first two phases made me wonder if there was even a fight worth speaking about. WoD bosses have more mechanics than this.
 

Sorian

Banned
Is DPS playing tank a viable way of defeating garuda?

I'm stuck with 2 DPS playing tank with a tank. My mana can't keep up :(

Which Garuda? I'm BLM and I usually tank pretty often in random HM runs. In EX, no, you probably wouldn't want a dps eating cleaves or wheels long term. Though I guess I've done that to but with manawall to hold out a bit longer.
 

studyguy

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I mean farming Garuda EX... you can pretty much assure clearing it before you enter the final phase (killing her during the center circle, first thermal low instance).

I feel like if you can't though it'd be pushing it. I have no idea how a DPS takes a wicked wheel in the face though or assures one of the adds isn't going about willy nilly.
 
MT in T11 is boring, when should I use my CD as a PLD?

I always pop something every meteor/seed, since that is three swipes on the both of us while the healers have to move and have dps to heal. That way it should only take one or two heals to be ready for head swap since I always take kelly aggro back and just have to survive the first, then all the heals go to the war for the second.

Add phase, i usually using everything one at a time as they come up, but mostly save sentinel for when a healer gets thunder and cant heal as they move away since that is always the riskiest time for the both of us.
 

Zalasta

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You find me another class that is easier and/or involves as much smashing random buttons and going pewpewpew and we can talk about addressing the bard overpopulation.

Oh. Must also be able to wear Amon's hat.

Then how come the majority of the gil sellers and bots are BLM/THM?
 

scy

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New WoD week and I don't even know what I'm going for. Ahhhhhhhh.

Be immensely sad every time the Bard chest drops.

How much harder is FcoB, compared to ScoB? I got all turns (except 9) cleared before nerfs and echo.

Mechanics wise, a lot are easier than T9. Most the fights are better designed in how they present the mechanics as well so you won't really get blindsided by a whole new fight on a phase change.

Then how come the majority of the gil sellers and bots are BLM/THM?

Infinite MP > TP Problems for botting.
 

iammeiam

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Lazy math makes me think I should go for the hat--last week I didn't want to lose the acc since I was going to end up right at the 11 flank cap range, but this week I think swapping i120 Ironworks for Dread boots and then Ironworks for Demon hat leaves acc and General stat weight pretty close to the same while granting bonus VIT/Def AND an excuse to keep wearing boots with tiny wings.

Then how come the majority of the gil sellers and bots are BLM/THM?

OK. Bard is easier for everything except farming snurble tufts. There BLM wins.
 

Reknoc

Member
Then how come the majority of the gil sellers and bots are BLM/THM?

yea but that's because BLM is boring. Bard is like Bayonetta's easy automatic, just mash shit and still look fancy as fuck. BLM is like winning pong in 2 player when there isn't a second player.
 

Nohar

Member
Currently leveling-up BLM. Not quite fond of the class, but I thought I could use a DPS spellcaster (technically I also have a SMN, but it seems the job was shunned with 2.4 because of the stuff and the job as a whole could use a buff or a revamp).

And I'm proud to be a fancy Bayonetta like Bard, thank you very much :eek:
 

Sorian

Banned
yea but that's because BLM is boring. Bard is like Bayonetta's easy automatic, just mash shit and still look fancy as fuck. BLM is like winning pong in 2 player when there isn't a second player.

Hey look guys, someone who doesn't understand BLM.
 

WolvenOne

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Things be happening, terrible things.

Depending on how things go, I might have to take a break from the game, for anywhere from a few days, to a few weeks. Don't count on that yet though, it's going to depend on just how things go in the next few weeks. <_<

Terrible things.
 

rybrad

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Are there any good guides for level 50 gear progression? My friends and I got to 50 last week and are having a hard time figuring out what to spend our time on. We are doing the Hard dungeons we can but it seems like there is a lot of other stuff we should be doing like trials or hunts. Searching around for stuff has been challenging as many things seems to have changed in the last several patches which can be confusing as someone who never played in the earlier patches.
 

WolvenOne

Member
Also, I don't expect much new information out of Duty Commenced.

Maybe, maaaaaaybe, some hint about the next Relic grind, but even that would be mildly shocking. I expect this mainly to be a recap for the sake of the english speaking audience.
 

iammeiam

Member
Are there any good guides for level 50 gear progression? My friends and I got to 50 last week and are having a hard time figuring out what to spend our time on. We are doing the Hard dungeons we can but it seems like there is a lot of other stuff we should be doing like trials or hunts. Searching around for stuff has been challenging as many things seems to have changed in the last several patches which can be confusing as someone who never played in the earlier patches.

This is pretty useful.
 

studyguy

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Next relic grind for 3.0 will consist of putting your current one in the Armoire and starting a new line. Please look forward to it.
 

WolvenOne

Member
Next relic grind for 3.0 will consist of putting your current one in the Armoire and starting a new line. Please look forward to it.

I was talking about the final Zodiac weapon grind, the one that takes the weapon upto ilvl135. That step is expecting to come in 2.51, the Gold Saucer patch.
 

yaffi

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Next relic grind for 3.0 will consist of putting your current one in the Armoire and starting a new line. Please look forward to it.

How about an Evil Power™ stealing your relic and you need to do :things: to get it back?

edit:
hunts
 

edgefusion

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Healer loot doesn't exist in raids.

Been doing T10 since it came out and T11 for the last 5 weeks, in the entire time not a single piece of Monk loot has dropped (or slaying). Literally don't even want to raid anymore. I'm at a point where I'm starting to think about just quitting my static. What's the point like? It's fun for a while, but then you're just going through the motions doing content you have on lock for no reward but relatively large time investment. Even the guaranteed drops get dished out to other members of the group first.
 

studyguy

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Been doing T10 since it came out and T11 for the last 5 weeks, in the entire time not a single piece of Monk loot has dropped (or slaying). Literally don't even want to raid anymore. I'm at a point where I'm starting to think about just quitting my static. What's the point like? It's fun for a while, but then you're just going through the motions doing content you have on lock for no reward but relatively large time investment. Even the guaranteed drops get dished out to other members of the group first.

We got one tank ring so far.
Just one. :/
 

Tabris

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Been doing T10 since it came out and T11 for the last 5 weeks, in the entire time not a single piece of Monk loot has dropped (or slaying). Literally don't even want to raid anymore. I'm at a point where I'm starting to think about just quitting my static. What's the point like? It's fun for a while, but then you're just going through the motions doing content you have on lock for no reward but relatively large time investment. Even the guaranteed drops get dished out to other members of the group first.

That makes 0 sense. Tombstone and twine should go to Monk 1st.

Apparently you got it too good moara :)
 

edgefusion

Member
That makes 0 sense. Tombstone and twine should go to Monk 1st.

Apparently you got it too good moara :)

I got my zodiac first, so we skipped me so the drg and blm could get bigger weapon upgrades. Then we got a bard that only had an i110 weapon so the most recent tomestone went to him. It makes sense and all that, but it's irritating to have saved 10 tokens from day 1 of the patch and still have them in my inventory, coupled with no dreadwyrm.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Been doing T10 since it came out and T11 for the last 5 weeks, in the entire time not a single piece of Monk loot has dropped (or slaying). Literally don't even want to raid anymore. I'm at a point where I'm starting to think about just quitting my static. What's the point like? It's fun for a while, but then you're just going through the motions doing content you have on lock for no reward but relatively large time investment. Even the guaranteed drops get dished out to other members of the group first.

Wut

What classes got the tomestone before you?

Edit: That sucks.
 
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