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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale

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studyguy

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I bought a room in my FC house a long, long time ago.

I think I put a desk in there and nothing else.
It's too much of a hassle to spawn outside your home, go into the FC house, go into the FC room. I don't even have a reason to go in there tbh.
 

IvorB

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I also will rarely watch video's or read strats. Just kills any learning enjoyment from the game. I'd rather get basic strats in game, or just "read and react" to what's going on.

I hope you have a very understanding party then. Dungeons and the like are one thing but I would honestly shake my head at someone rocking up to an ex primal fight completely blind.
 

WolvenOne

Member
Oooookay, moving away from that jab against Galen. (That really was meant as a harmless jest, really, Galens awesome istruth!)

Any idea how Yoship being promoted to Executive Officer of Development would change anything? I mean, I can't imagine it'd change things too much, he'll still be spending most of his time working on XIV, but still, humor me. XD
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
I hope you have a very understanding party then. Dungeons and the like are one thing but I would honestly shake my head at someone rocking up to an ex primal fight completely blind.

Hey, maybe I can just give the controls to other players, that'll solve everything!
 

WolvenOne

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It's my understanding that breeding a high level chocobo is as grindy if not more than doing the relic chain.

Sounds like it. I'm just doing races casually, when I have downtime. Still on my first gen now, buuuuut, I suspect that I'll have one of those Super Brids by the time the expansion comes along.
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
The amount of times I am having to run DD for this atma drop is beginning to make me legitimately upset. It could have been any of the 50 dungeons and I wouldn't care, but this dungeon is wearing on my last nerve.
 

IvorB

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Hey, maybe I can just give the controls to other players, that'll solve everything!

Well you are expecting those other players to type you out an essay of information to explain an ex primal fight or wait around while you die hundreds of times trying to figure it all out for yourself. But whatever works for you I guess. I wish you good luck.
 

nickcv

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Yes, the basic is that.

Going more in deep there are other significant differences:

- PLD can reduce it's damage for longer and continous periods of times, outside of Shield Oath. With Rampart, Sentinel, Bullwark and the last resort of Hallowed Ground, you can maintain reduced dmg for quite some time, (and you can add Convalescence on top of that). But of course you have to take into account the cooldown, instead WAR dosn't have as many dmg reduction skills, but Inner Beast allows the reduction of damage more constant and more easily avaliable when it's needed, that's the reason that on fights like Odin, WAR is always prepared fo those big attacks, while PLD, without more pin point control of skills, can easily end without skills when needed.

- Hallowed Ground is a very significant difference, since it's great as a last resort or "oh shit!" button. WAR Holmgang is never as useful or effective.

- Storm's Path and Storm's Eye, gives WAR a great utility that PLD just dosn't have, that's why both of them works so well together.

- Also due to Overpower, Steel Cyclone and Vengeance, alongside Berserk WAR is just better when dealing with a huge number of adds/trash. I mean PLD can do it too, but while all he can do is spam Flash, WAR can keep the hate while dealing a decent amount of AoE dmg. (Also infinetly more fun...)

- Although total DPS might be closer between the 2 jobs, the fact that WAR gets such a big burst (but shorter) boost of dmg, makes him ideal for dps races phases or for taking adds faster. Berserk + Storm's Eye + Maim + more critics + Vengeance and your PLD just can't make that extra push of DMG (And WAR can do it while using Defiance and neglecting the penalty on your DPS with Unchained)

The point is, both jobs are quite equal these days, and the reason you might want to MT with one or ther other depends mostly of the content and which fits better for the task. Normally PLD is more apt for the main bosses, while WAR is better for adds, but that's not always the case either.

Thanks a lot, this was really useful. I'm definitely going for the warrior at this point.

On a side note: They just locked character creation on the server I wanted. How long will I have to wait for the unlock?
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
....Atma drop? You mean Zodiac drop right?

Dungeon atma, yes the zodiac quest.

I had to run Amdapor keep something like 25 times but that was fiiine because at least I was level 50 and didn't have people bitching at me for not pulling enough exp for them. My normally sunny disposition can only take me so far in DD. It takes so long to run and the people in it are generally inept. Worst part is, I've run out of Police Academy movies to watch while running dungeons so I need another awful movie franchise to space out to while I humor this tedium.
 

WolvenOne

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If he's not President and CEO yet then he hasn't been promoted enough

Well, I guess what I'm wondering myself is, what are his responsibilities in this new role? I mean, he can probably jump back and forth between being an executive and producing FFXIV well enough, so I'm not too concerned about that at this point. But, conversely, what do they want him to bring to this new role?

Okay, granted, this isn't strictly a FFXIV topic anymore.
 
Maybe it's just luck, but the gilgamesh and enkidu card seems to drop fairly frequently.

I had two today in runs, and Jade got it in our runs too XD.

I could say the same about the ultros card though haha.. It loves us.
 

scy

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The primal cards with no HM/EX seem to drop fairly often. Not like "guaranteed" levels but at least not "Week 30, still no sight" bad.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Well you are expecting those other players to type you out an essay of information to explain an ex primal fight or wait around while you die hundreds of times trying to figure it all out for yourself. But whatever works for you I guess. I wish you good luck.

Essay is now what people call a sentence or 2, if they even want to type anything. Otherwise, I can grasp the concepts as it's happening, though I rather do those fights as DPS, as tanking creates headaches and blame.

Also, hasn't taken hundreds of times. Haven't tried past T5, and Titan Ex might have been 20 times (3 or 4 first timers with vet's). Technically cleared T5 on the 1st try recently, though dying 3 times (learned that the walls = death, didn't get out of the pit on a divebomb fast enough, and caught a ball of death in the face).

But the concept of "you are wasting other people's time" is a miserable bit of nonsense. All of this is a waste of time. If something is making you feel bad about the time being wasted, stop doing that thing. I.E. Me with the SCoB and FCoB, and the EX after clearing them once. Don't put the blame of your time wasting onto someone else.
 

Sorian

Banned
The primal cards with no HM/EX seem to drop fairly often. Not like "guaranteed" levels but at least not "Week 30, still no sight" bad.

I'm getting ready to update my last will and testament to read that my fortunes will be passed along to whoever can add an onion knight card to my account.
 

Teknoman

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Besides, it's entirely possible to screw around in MH4, watch Netflix, keep an eye on FC chat, telecommute, and bicker in the OT simultaneously.

MULTITASKING.

do you suck at MH4 as much as I do?

if so, gibe friend code

1049-1274-7067

I need some eorzea hunters on my list too.

There's nowhere near the fighting going on here, like there was in OG CoP in XI. Feelings got hurt. Words got spoken. Games got deleted.

I've never been ashamed to say that most of the endgame content I've not done a lot of, though now it's mostly the EX Trials and the Coil. I also will rarely watch video's or read strats. Just kills any learning enjoyment from the game. I'd rather get basic strats in game, or just "read and react" to what's going on.

LoneStar knows what's up. Also yeah, constantly playing mediator during those Stars of Destiny CoP with a certain someone.


At any rate, gimme the basic gist of things, and I can usually grab the fight after a try or two. Sometimes right off the bat.

Also that's what kills communication sometimes... I can't speak for anyone else, but I have no problem giving a new person a quick summary of a fight. Now maybe with trials that have lockouts, I can understand.
 

IvorB

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Essay is now what people call a sentence or 2, if they even want to type anything. Otherwise, I can grasp the concepts as it's happening, though I rather do those fights as DPS, as tanking creates headaches and blame.

Also, hasn't taken hundreds of times. Haven't tried past T5, and Titan Ex might have been 20 times (3 or 4 first timers with vet's). Technically cleared T5 on the 1st try recently, though dying 3 times (learned that the walls = death, didn't get out of the pit on a divebomb fast enough, and caught a ball of death in the face).

But the concept of "you are wasting other people's time" is a miserable bit of nonsense. All of this is a waste of time. If something is making you feel bad about the time being wasted, stop doing that thing. I.E. Me with the SCoB and FCoB, and the EX after clearing them once. Don't put the blame of your time wasting onto someone else.

I'd love to see you explain an ex primal fight in two sentences. Anyways, as I said: it's entirely up to you so you can do as you like.
 

Teknoman

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I'd love to see you explain an ex primal fight in two sentences. Anyways, as I said: it's entirely up to you so you can do as you like.

To be fair, you probably could fit titan ex in two :p.


On that note, Titan and Leviathan are the most fun for me.
 
Titan ex you could do in one: dodge f**king everything! :) Some of the other ones would probably get a bit more wordy though. Whoever can explain Ramuh Ex in two sentences wins a prize.

Pick up an orb if someone tells you, don't cross streams, shock people if they're stunned, kill the adds, don't stand in the water too much and punch him a lot. Get good.

You didn't exclude the use of commas in the sentence.
 
A question for GAF, inspired by discussion over in a Heavensward thread:

In some other role playing games, both online and off, there are base classes that later have an option to specialise, e.g. Warrior -> tank or damage dealer. And this usually comes with a fair bit of discussion about which spec is best for certain content, strategies or party compositions, and which combinations of skills to use. In XIV, really the only class that has specialisation options is arcanist (to dps or heals) as the other base classes have more clearly defined roles and their jobs only serve to reinforce those niches. There are no skill trees, only ones automatically granted as you level (and the cross class skills are pretty much expected). Summoner and scholar seem to be something of a failed experiment in terms of how they were implemented compared to the jobs from 1.0 and the jobs that will be in 3.0, and players also seem to want them seperated out.

So, my actual question is, do you people wish there was more variety or opportunity to customise the classes with particular skill sets, or different-niche jobs (eg for those situations when gladiator or marauder players don't want to tank, or for the white mages who cleric stance all day every day)? Or do you prefer the defined roles of the current system, which is balanced by the fact that any character can do every class?

This is pretty much my biggest disappointment with how the job system seems to be progressing. When the game first launched I thought that Summoner and Scholar would be the blueprint of things to come. That jobs would act like as the class specialization that could change your party role, and be your customization. That eventually every class would have have multiple job splits that gave them a different role through custom job skills/those job skills effecting the class skills. With the news about the new jobs it seems they are going the complete opposite way on this though and just making new jobs their own thing.
 

scy

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I'm getting ready to update my last will and testament to read that my fortunes will be passed along to whoever can add an onion knight card to my account.

I was going to example the Onion Knight but I didn't want to cause any unnecessary trauma.

Yeah Titan ex you could do in one: dodge f**king everything! :) Some of the other ones would probably get a bit more wordy though. Whoever can explain Ramuh Ex in two sentences wins a prize.

Fuck it. Get carried.
 

Apoptomon

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This is pretty much my biggest disappointment with how the job system seems to be progressing. When the game first launched I thought that Summoner and Scholar would be the blueprint of things to come. That jobs would act like as the class specialization that could change your party role, and be your customization. That eventually every class would have have multiple job splits that gave them a different role through custom job skills/those job skills effecting the class skills. With the news about the new jobs it seems they are going the complete opposite way on this though and just making new jobs their own thing.
I definitely get where you're coming from, and I'm disappointed too-- I remember when more jobs were first floated, there was lots of speculation about which new jobs would go with what classes. I can understand why they didn't go ahead with it though, - the 1.0 mould may have been too hard to break out of.

Im about to jump in the Base game! Any recommendations you guys have to get started?
What region are you / what server/data centre do you have in mind? There's a large GAF community on Ultros (primal data center). Pick whichever class and race you like: you can pick up all other classes after your first reaches level ten, and the races are largely cosmetic (the stat differences aren't worth much, and you can change appearance after creation using Fantasia items).

Don't be a potato.
Don't be a cat.
Don't be a giraffe.
Incidentally, I read in a pax interview (on crunchy roll maybe, it was linked on reddit) that the reason female Aura are basically scaly catgirls was because of the lack of roegadyn and highlander women among player characters. /random fact of the day
 

IvorB

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Pick up an orb if someone tells you, don't cross streams, shock people if they're stunned, kill the adds, don't stand in the water too much and punch him a lot. Get good.

You didn't exclude the use of commas in the sentence.

Ha! That's good but I don't think that's a grammatically correct English sentence. Maybe if you reworked it as a list with a colon...

In Ramuh you should: pick up orbs if instructed; never cross streams; shock stunned people; kill ads; avoid water; and, punch him a lot. :)

But something tells me this won't be enough info though...
 

BadRNG

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Hyur Highlander or gtfo
Heeere we are, born to be kings.

Incidentally, I read in a pax interview (on crunchy roll maybe, it was linked on reddit) that the reason female Aura are basically scaly catgirls was because of the lack of roegadyn and highlander women among player characters. /random fact of the day
Majority of player base has bad taste, who'd of thunk it. Hopefully they don't take the usual glamor for the majority races to mean we want all future gear to be bikini armor too.
 

Sorian

Banned
I was going to example the Onion Knight but I didn't want to cause any unnecessary trauma.

The pain stops eventually. I don't think I'll even be happy if it drops at this point. I'll just move on to the Terra card without a thought.
 
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