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[Rocwell]

Admittedly, all the race-car attempts I've been in have failed for one reason or another. (Usually because of a DPS popping sprint before Invigorate, and not getting the full sprint duration.)

I still don't like popping sprint and blowing all my TP though, especially as Tank. I'm willing to do it if there's a bard or ninja around, but I still don't like it. I absolutely HATE leaving TP regen up to either time or the whim of other players to fix.

Nascar isn't so bad, you don't need the full sprint duration just enough tp to make close to the full circuit around the arena. It keeps everyone clustered together as well so everyone takes minimal amounts of damage from the meteors and is in range for swift cast succor/medica. If you have paeon up your tp regens to around 700+ by the time golems are out again.

I pushed back against it with my static after we kept getting blown up by bad meteor placement but eventually we got it down to 100% consistency. The main thing that helped in that regard was everyone using sprint as soon as the first marker appears and picking a spot on the little hands for everyone to aim to pass through, if someone is falling behind they can cut towards the inside to catch back up.

 

[Ken]

I'd have to know that for a certain before using said 1000 to 0 drain weapon-skill, and there would have to be a suitable payoff to using it. (a 100 potency off GCD skill for example, wouldn't be worth it in any circumstance.)

Sure is a shame that none of the raid fights are heavily scripted encounters oh wait.

Also I sprint on scatter/place method as well.

 

[WolvenOne]

Nascar is the debil! Ain't nobody gonna onvince me othawise! (Yells at cloud!)

 

[irfaanator]

XTECH DID IT?!?!??!

xtech i'm so proud of you

xtech was afk when I went to bed when they were looking for a 4th so idk.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Was a straight up carry.

How much do you charge?

Our group keeps hitting the last ring at t10 at 30% so we need those weapons bad.

 

[iammeiam]

Nascar is the debil! Ain't nobody gonna onvince me othawise! (Yells at cloud!)

The proper term is MARIO KART.

And MARIO KART is never wrong.

 

[WolvenOne]

The proper term is MARIO KART.

And MARIO KART is never wrong.

Don't make me yell at more clouds Angery! XD

 

[Rocwell]

I call it Nascar because our group always turns left

 

[Ken]

How much do you charge?

Our group keeps hitting the last ring at t10 at 30% so we need those weapons bad.

I don't think a +5 ilevel gain on weapons will make up 30%.

 

[crazygambit]

T9, really, REALLY should have had a mechanic that absolutely, positively, FORCED two tanks. Hate how few PF's out there ask for two tanks. Also, it's a shame they don't have anything on the more casual side of the game, that penalized people for not using a proper rotation. I dunno, they need training dummies that read your ilvl and give you a score when you're done whacking away, or something.

I really wish there was a way to parse damage without using third party tools (or that it would work on PS4). It would really help improve people's rotations.

GAF T9 carries start already?

Can I get a T5 carry first? It's hard to PUG and I haven't been able to fit a static on my schedule, though that might change soon.

 

[iammeiam]

Can I get a T5 carry first? It's hard to PUG and I haven't been able to fit a static on my schedule, though that might change soon.

Ask Tomo Friday night if you want to wipe and learn.

Ask Haman whenever if you just want a straight carry.

GAF will easily meet all your T5 carry needs, just gotta ask the right people.

 

[WolvenOne]

I really wish there was a way to parse damage without using third party tools (or that it would work on PS4). It would really help improve people's rotations.

They're afraid to hurt players feelings. This is actually an understandable sentiment, and quite laudable for a certain extent. However, if the game doesn't tell people, "You need to work on your rotation," other players will, and will probably do so in a far ruder and more hurtful manner than an NPC or striking dummy ever could.

Speaking personally, I don't mind it when people correct something I'm doing wrong, "IF," I think they're actually trying to be helpful. I do want to get better after all, and I suspect most players do as well.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

I don't think a +5 ilevel gain on weapons will make up 30%.

We don't hit enrage at 30, just the last ring around center. I read here you ideally want to be at 23% or so when the final ring before center lights up in order to beat the center one. We need to make up about 12% which I think is doable once everyone has their weapons and is more comfortable. The faster we get there the more time we can get to practice that last phase.

 

[scy]

Can I get a T5 carry first? It's hard to PUG and I haven't been able to fit a static on my schedule, though that might change soon.

Bonus Soldiery!

 

[iammeiam]

Bonus Soldiery!

Also ask Rin if you need a Ramuh carry.

 

[scy]

B...Bonus Soldiery!

 

[studyguy]

B...Bonus Soldiery!

I love extra sol...

 

[Jayhawk]

Also ask Rin if you need a Ramuh carry.

What kind of carry do you provide?

 

[Wilsongt]

Excalibur incoming.

 

[iammeiam]

What kind of carry do you provide?

Dowager Countess of 2.3 Swimwear Carries

Spoiler

i really, really don't want to do work today.

 

[BadRNG]

We did two tank, two healer, three DPS T9 last night. Two tank for life.

That was actually pretty fun, I'm glad the buyer was so chill while we were figuring out the logistics of it all.

I realize, but they're mechanics that can be ignored relatively easily if people are on their toes. Thankfully, I think the devs now realize that this player base WILL go without a second tank if at all possible, and are paying closer attention to this....

You're going to love final coil! They did away with simply penalizing single tank with healable debuffs and decided if you don't two tank you will die. Maybe in i200 with echo when we are all rocking 20k hp it will be solo tanked.

Also I sprint on scatter/place method as well.

Finally someone with some sense! No matter the method I use sprint, there is literally zero reason not to. I've never had any TP issues in T9, you get plenty of time to regen.

As for which strategy is better, eh, whatever works for your group. I prefer placement but I didn't actually learn that method until after the lockout was lifted, so I was doing racecar for months without issue. Every now and then we'd get lag and wipe but we generally one shot it without issue, so yeah, whatever works for your group.

How much do you charge?

Our group keeps hitting the last ring at t10 at 30% so we need those weapons bad.

3million

Spoiler

fat cats

. But if your group is in t10 why would you need t9 carries.

This is probably why I don't get much T9 practice, everyone wants to do single tank and that always ends in massive failure. Plus the dps never seems to be that much better...=/

This is why I'd never do a PF practice T9 to begin with, why waste your time with such terrible players. I can't imagine you actually getting much good practice with groups like that.

 

[Tabris]

We were thinking of selling T9 carries too to fund some i110 crafted gear.

Probably be good to leave the buyer alive until Phase 4 when we would need him to run into the wall.

Our meteor system is pretty fool proof, especially for the 8th.

 

[BadRNG]

We had our guy die immediately at start by standing in wall. I don't know if I'd want to risk them healing via dynamo or messing up meteor stream/stardust.

Might be different if buyer knows fight more or less and just wants clear. Our guy was completely new to second coil it seemed.

 

[WolvenOne]

Excalibur incoming.

I remember this. Supposedly we trade our Relics in towards the original versions of the weapons they're based on, at least if I remember the contents of an old interview correctly.

If both the name, and the model is changing, then I think it's quite possible that we're going to be doing that in the next phase of the Relic chain.

This does beg the question tho. Are the stat allotments going to be reset, since they're going to be a new weapon?

Okay okay, I know this is all very speculative, but I think I'll hold off on going full Det/Acc on my weapon until I find out. Also, if specs do reset, than consider the Novus step nerfed. You could throw on elemental material and it wouldn't matter.

 

[Teknoman]

I'll help with T5 on help night. Finally got the day off on the same day, and it'll be a rainy Friday anyway.

 

[Tiops]

We got to golems...



2 members didn't show up, we got some replacements on PF but the DPS was too low. We got 4 beaks most of the time, and that's not good.

Then we fucked up with the golems and some people had to leave. I'm going to be positive and think that we took 35% of the boss' HP down.

 

[WolvenOne]

If that was mostly first timers, that's good. DPS is always low when people are learning a fight. Mind you if it doesn't pick up as people become more comfortable, THEN it's a problem; but there's no need to get ahead of yourself just yet.

 

[aceface]

I'll help with T5 on help night. Finally got the day off on the same day, and it'll be a rainy Friday anyway.

I'm actually not going to be around this Friday, I think Chocolate and others should be available for help night though.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

This is why I'd never do a PF practice T9 to begin with, why waste your time with such terrible players. I can't imagine you actually getting much good practice with groups like that.

We get as far as wiping on meteors because people don't know how to place them, or they put them all close to the boss so the melee have nowhere to go if they get one.

 

[WolvenOne]

This is why I'd never do a PF practice T9 to begin with, why waste your time with such terrible players. I can't imagine you actually getting much good practice with groups like that.

Not everyone has a choice really. If you want practice, and your group isn't running for awhile, you've got to pug.

Besides, not every pug out there is bad. I think sometimes people are a bit too eager to jump to that conclusion.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Not everyone has a choice really. If you want practice, and your group isn't running for awhile, you've got to pug.

Besides, not every pug out there is bad. I think sometimes people are a bit too eager to jump to that conclusion.

Most pugs I've been in are pretty darn bad.

 

[Sophia]

Most pugs I've been in are pretty darn bad.

From my experiences on Adamantoise, for every good group, you get an average group and a bad group too. On the whole, the odds aren't too bad as long as everyone is honest about what they want. That is, no joining a clear or farm group when you wanted to practice, and vice versa.

I got my first Moggle Mog Ex kill with a group that was labeled a practice group. It's certainly doable if everyone is legitimately interested.

 

[Taruranto]

What's the average DPS for BRD in Coil/Shiva Ex? iLevel 104 so far.

Also, what are the good pieces from t6-8?

 

[Tabris]

What's the average DPS for BRD in Coil/Shiva Ex? iLevel 104 so far.

Also, what are the good pieces from t6-8?

BRD DPS should be above 300 to be decent, 350+ to be pretty darn good, 400 to be great.

 

[Taruranto]

BRD DPS should be above 300 to be decent, 350+ to be pretty darn good, 400 to be great.

I was doing around 280.

Then I switched to SCH to heal and one BRD joined us and he did 430+ (had iLevel 130 too).

I felt pretty insignificant.

 

[Tabris]

I was doing around 280.

Then I switched to SCH to heal and one BRD joined us and he did 430+ (had iLevel 130 too).

I felt pretty insignificant.

1) Do you lock on so you're not missing auto attacks when moving/dodging (i.e. not facing the boss you're not attacking)? This can be a pretty decent difference.
2) Watch some rotation videos to ensure you are doing things in the right order. (this tip can be applied to any job)
3) Add X-Potions of DEX into your rotation, more important for later raid content, but get in the habit now.
4) Gear will also make a pretty big difference. You are aiming for lots of crit as your primary secondary stat focus and it can be hard with some of the soldiery and ironworks gear.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

From my experiences on Adamantoise, for every good group, you get an average group and a bad group too. On the whole, the odds aren't too bad as long as everyone is honest about what they want. That is, no joining a clear or farm group when you wanted to practice, and vice versa.

I got my first Moggle Mog Ex kill with a group that was labeled a practice group. It's certainly doable if everyone is legitimately interested.

All the 'farm' groups I join on Ultros have at least a couple of people with little experience, hoping for a carry. And it just leads to lots of wipes. I'm sick of people being blatantly dishonest.

At this point I may just pay for a T9 carry just so I can get into FcoB.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

That bard thread just keeps getting better in the OF.

The only answer I can give you is balance. BRD was 100-150 dps lower than the other DPS classes pre-2.4 which is already a massive gap (approximately 25% lower dps) and that gap is not getting any smaller I assure you. I can't give you up to date data at this point since people are not geared up in the new stuff yet.

Don't be this guy, don't be an idiot guys. No decent bard is even close to that far behind all the other classes, even with equal gear and skill.

 

[QisTopTier]

The funny thing is bards could be 300 dps behind and they would still be a pretty much required class

 

[DrForester]

Man does my character look good in this new gear.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Some bards still need a swift kick to get a song or two out of them!

 

[DrForester]

Oh man...

 

[QisTopTier]

Oh man...

The best xD

 

[Taruranto]

1) Do you lock on so you're not missing auto attacks when moving/dodging (i.e. not facing the boss you're not attacking)? This can be a pretty decent difference.
2) Watch some rotation videos to ensure you are doing things in the right order. (this tip can be applied to any job)
3) Add X-Potions of DEX into your rotation, more important for later raid content, but get in the habit now.
4) Gear will also make a pretty big difference. You are aiming for lots of crit as your primary secondary stat focus and it can be hard with some of the soldiery and ironworks gear.

Didn't know about about lockon, I play with legacy control so I end up turning away form the boss all the time (Not a problem with my main since I'm a healer), I'll give it a try tomorrow to see if things change, although It does make AOE more hard to dodge.

Although, it does make aoe significantly harder to dodge

 

[Tabris]

Didn't know about about lockon, I play with legacy control so I end up turning away form the boss all the time (Not a problem with my main since I'm a healer), I'll give it a try tomorrow to see if things change, although It does make AOE more hard to dodge.

Although, it does make aoe significantly harder to dodge

You key bind the lockon button to your keyboard, mouse, or controller and deactivate when you need to move out of an aoe, then reactivate. If you can't dodge just by strafing with lockon.

I learned a lot about this as our BRD was also not locking on and losing DPS because of it. He can provide better colour commentary on challenges and how he adjusted.

 

[Mr Nash]

Is selling stacks of 99 crafting materia a thing? Every so often I see people do that on the AH. Not even offering a bulk discount. Just BAM 99 of them at around 20k per, so the thing costs 1.9 million. I can't even begin to imagine the kind of terrible melding rng one would have to go through to necessitate all of that.

 

[docbon]

that feel when you get duodecafucked by rngesus on what should be an easy meld of competence IIs.

 

[Stuart444]

All the 'farm' groups I join on Ultros have at least a couple of people with little experience, hoping for a carry. And it just leads to lots of wipes. I'm sick of people being blatantly dishonest.

On this point, think I read this on reddit but what do folks think of someone creating a Farm PF, saying have clear experience or whatever.

Then you get into the fight, see the bonus sol message. And then clear it in one go. Instance ends and the PF Creator (who originally put it up as a farm) got the achievement for the instance and goes "Thanks for the clear" before disbanding the party.

That's quite dishonest, especially for anyone joining it to 'farm' the content and everyone but this person had clear experience already.

 

[Mr Nash]

By the by, anyone on Excalibur happen to know if all those Anita characters in Fallgourd farming Plasmoids 24 / 7 by the path to the Ixal dailies are people or bots?

 

[Aeriscloud]

By the by, anyone on Excalibur happen to know if all those Anita characters in Fallgourd farming Plasmoids 24 / 7 by the path to the Ixal dailies are people or bots?

No one is sure really.

The only group i'm sure aren't bots are the Xenoras.