Well, when you're doing progression there's a little, "learning how to deal," even if your group is overall following a blue-print. With that much echo and overgearing though, there isn't really much learning to deal, as it were. Back when everyone was in i90 and there was no echo, between the DPS checks and mechanics everyone had to work together pretty well to clear it. Now there's no real DPS check, and people can survive most small mistakes, so, yeaaaaah.
Don't worry though, T9 is still very real, and even with echo Final Coil can be pretty darn unforgiving to people that don't know what they're doing.
