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[Karamsoul]

Anyone have a pic of the map completely filled in?

Man this game is awesome. Only at chapter 6 but I dont want it to end. Getting huge MGSV vibes from the open world. Especially when you have to raid one of the Imperial outposts. Love the action combat system. Was a bit skeptical as to how it would feel after the Platinum demo, but they nailed it imo. Cannot wait to see what Square does next with this sort of gameplay, especially FFVII Remake.

So far the story beats havent really been all that great but the gameplay more than makes up for it. It really feels out of place though when they weave in scenes from the Kingsglaive movie and especially the Omen trailer. They just dont have any weight to them and feel like they were just thrown in at the last minute.

I'm getting huge Dragon's Dogma vibes, actually. Loving the game for this very reason.

 

[Soulflarz]

I can't speculate on how the game pans out (or won't for fear of accidentally spoiling myself)

Yeaah come back postgame, trust me, it's easier for everyone to discuss his motives after you know them.

Worst part about the hallway simulator is how rushed everything else is leading up to it, like

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Tenebrae

being literally backdrop and that one setpiece which is actually cool

Yeah I really mind this to be honest- a lot of the linear section sounds like "area that could have been awesome and open world but we ran out of time", which is a shame really.

 

[Ydelnae]

Chapter 4 spoilers:

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That "post-mortum" radio interview with Luna totally portrayed her as female Jesuchrist lol

Traveling with Ardyn is creepy. Prompto took a pic of him and he said that it would make it easier for Noct to remember him.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

I was utterly baffled by that.

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To make it even worse, the bros seemed more shaken by Jared's death than they were by Insomnia's fall and the death of the king.

This is true. The divergence of emotional reactions shown really don't make sense.

Silly, poorly executed story beats make up the entirety of the main plot. They are nonsense. There's a lot I admire about this game's moment to moment gameplay characterization of the main group, but any time a cutscene or story mission starts I know it's time to buckle up for Uncle Square's Dumbshit Hayride.

Tommy Wiseau's character in the room has a clear agenda, but that doesn't really make for a good story on its own.

This is exactly what it is.

 

[Dominator]

Anybody have a list of where all the items are for Cid to level up the weapons? I have like 5 side-quests on my list that he needs and item for but you're just supposed to find them with no direction. I'd like to get them off my list lol

 

[nOoblet16]

You physically can't finish the hallway sim in 30m, you still have more to go. I beelined it as much as possible and still was nearly 2hr.

If you are talking about chapter 10 then yes you can.

Check back a few pages and you'll see my post about saves disappearing, I started Altissia at that exact point. Check 1-3 pages back and you'll see my post about Leviathan, that's when I finished it..the time difference between those two posts is like 2 hours and that was with all hunts and side activities and I only spent the last 30 mins alone most of which was cutscene.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

I'm trying to hunt Deadeye but I can't seem to find him, the path is blocked. Any tips?

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Very often character's own agendas contradict those of their group. This is an incredibly common way lend a character more depth or to further certain story beats.

I think Soulflarz might be trying to point out the exact problem I have with the agenda stuff.

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He's not doing really "subtle" behinds the scene stuff. He's acting right out in the open, and no one is calling him on his shit. And even when he's acting to help someone (the bros) he doesn't do it particularly consistently and it lends a huge "why" to what he's doing that I remain unconvinced I'll get an answer to.

 

[robotrock]

Just started this! Do you guys have problems reading when you should block? A lot of combat encounters start looking super messy to me and I usually can't tell when to block.

Do you keep the lock on to an enemy at all times?

 

[Soulflarz]

If you are talking about chapter 10 then yes you can.

Check back a few pages and you'll see my post about saves disappearing, I started Altissia at that exact point. Check 1-3 pages back and you'll see my post about Leviathan, that's when I finished it..the time difference between those two posts is like 2 hours and that was with all hunts and side activities and I only spent the last 30 mins alone most of which was cutscene.

Oh man
Ch 10 hallway sim?
You're in for a treat

I think Soulflarz might be trying to point out the exact problem I have with the agenda stuff.

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He's not doing really "subtle" behinds the scene stuff. He's acting right out in the open, and no one is calling him on his shit. And even when he's acting to help someone (the bros) he doesn't do it particularly consistently and it lends a huge "why" to what he's doing that I remain unconvinced I'll get an answer to.

Yes. He's very...iffy on his actions and both groups pretty much can see what hes doing. The fact no one calls him out is pure contrivance.
That's a major part of, besides the fact that his motives themselves still aren't well done for a full story.

 

[professa_k]

I'm trying to hunt Deadeye but I can't seem to find him, the path is blocked. Any tips?

probably overshot the entrance, i believe you found the "exit". the entrance is a path where trees get knocked down. you see an event for it.

 

[Athreous]

Don't do this to yourself.. it's dead let it go.

You know, I had this nostalgia feeling =p

Let's put our hopes in FFVII R

 

[Seven Force]

Alright, so I'm grinding these Duplicorns for a Sturdy Helixhorn so that I can get the

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Ultima Weapon

. I'm aiming for the horn with the

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Sword of the Wise

which supposedly increases drop rates, and I'm getting nowhere. Am I missing something, or am I just getting screwed by the RNG?

Get the recipe for the Mother-Son Rice plate (It's in Lestallum, by the parking; The ingredients can be bought from the Regalia's shop) and eat it before heading out. It boosts item drop rates as well.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

You know, I had this nostalgia feeling =p

Let's put our hopes in FFVII R

Why do you want to be disappointed again?

Approach the Remake as something new, don't go in expecting nostalgic memories of FFVII.

 

[PshycoNinja]

Thats incredibly poor story telling, for the only build up to a "plot twist" to be an npc saying "hey theres gonna be a plot twist!"

That's not what he said. And again it wasn't one instance. And simplifying it down to "an NPC helping give build up during a main quest" really undersells what happened.

It's like saying (Heavensward spoilers)

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"Yo, an npc one time said dragon eyes hold power and it turns into a sword for said npc. What's up with that!? They only talked about it once and didn't say it could do that. That's incredibly poor storytelling."

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

probably overshot the entrance, i believe you found the "exit". the entrance is a path where trees get knocked down. you see an event for it.

Yeah, I just triggered him by accident I think, he knocked down a couple of trees. I made the mistake of using the car earlier to get near where he was on the map.

 

[Killer Queen]

Yep, type C should've been the default control. So much better than type A.

Surely you mean Type B

 

[Stuart444]

From someone that enjoys this game a lot, despite some of the many flaws in the game:

Fuck chapter 13.

I'm not even finished it (though I am sure I'm nearly finished it) but it is just too long and not fun at all.

I mean I like the idea of it from a story perspective (

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Ardyn tormenting Noctis throughout it all

) but from a gameplay perspective, it is too long and not fun :/

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Why do you want to be disappointed again?

Approach the Remake as something new, don't go in expecting nostalgic memories of FFVII.

Nomura makes good games though

 

[Garrett Hawke]

JP voices are soooo much better

Having played a good 16 hours in eng then restarting in Japanese the emotion in pretty much all the cutscenes is superior

 

[jimmypython]

Why do you want to be disappointed again?

Approach the Remake as something new, don't go in expecting nostalgic memories of FFVII.

Make sure the remake has the same awesome chocobo riding mechanics from XV - that's all i ask besides letting Nomura do whatever he wants.

Nomura makes good games though

His games are not universally praised but the people who "get" him form some of the most loyal communities, like the KH. I am a KH fan too....lol

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Nomura makes good games though

When was the last time he made a game that had 90+ meta? All his recent games have been below that threshold for a while.

84 meta for FFXV is not bad, regardless of whatever your experience was with the game.

 

[Zakalwe]

I think Soulflarz might be trying to point out the exact problem I have with the agenda stuff.

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He's not doing really "subtle" behinds the scene stuff. He's acting right out in the open, and no one is calling him on his shit. And even when he's acting to help someone (the bros) he doesn't do it particularly consistently and it lends a huge "why" to what he's doing that I remain unconvinced I'll get an answer to.

I agree on that point, I explicitly wrote how it might become odd it that he's doing this shit overtly without being called on it.

However, looking only at the parts I've seen myself in game, he's:

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met with the group twice covertly
and
swooped in once in full view of empire troops and escaped before they had a chance to do anything.

At /this/ point he hasn't given anyone the chance to call him out for acting against their interests.

And we currently don't know how much the emperor is involved in this specific plot.

As the game moves on his overt interference might become ridiculous if he continues to do it with no apparent kick-back,

but so far it doesn't seem that way at all and I'm confused why people have an issue with it if they've only seem as much as I have.

Fully prepared for the latter parts to show me just how much the game fails in this regard, but it hasn't failed yet imo.

 

[Soulflarz]

From someone that enjoys this game a lot, despite some of the many flaws in the game:

Fuck chapter 13.

I'm not even finished it (though I am sure I'm nearly finished it) but it is just too long and not fun at all.

I mean I like the idea of it from a story perspective (

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Ardyn tormenting Noctis throughout it all

) but from a gameplay perspective, it is too long and not fun :/

I lost it when they

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bait and switched me on the elevator

and made it continue another hour :')

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Just started this! Do you guys have problems reading when you should block? A lot of combat encounters start looking super messy to me and I usually can't tell when to block.

Do you keep the lock on to an enemy at all times?

No switch constantly between hard and soft lock on

 

[Angry Grimace]

The only thing I don't like about the soundtrack stuff in the car is that I can't play other S-E games music. I'd kill many Saberclaws to get Chrono Cross stuff on that car!

 

[robotrock]

What's that hud icon in the bottom middle of the screen?

 

[Ray Down]

Make sure the remake has the same awesome chocobo riding mechanics from XV - that's all i ask besides letting Nomura do whatever he wants.

You should be more worried about Nojima.

 

[Inuhanyou]

JP voices are soooo much better

Having played a good 16 hours in eng then restarting in Japanese the emotion in pretty much all the cutscenes is superior

why do people hate on the english voices? The banter and quips and jokes work so well as one offs. I actually am reminded by Tales's skits at times

You should be more worried about Nojima.

Nojima will be nojima lol, for better, or worse.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

Surely you mean Type B

Nah. R2 for attack and L2 for defense is how it should be.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Fully prepared for the latter parts to show me just how much the game fails in this regard, but it hasn't failed yet imo.

His motive will be revealed soon, although this doesn't excuse the poor narrative direction.

That said, I feel like people are making it too big of a deal, so I agree with you here.

Nojima will be nojima lol, for better, or worse.

Again like Nomura, when has Nojima last made a game that received outstanding praise? Or written a story for that matter?

I honestly feel like people build this personality of their favorite game developer like it is something else while they refuse to look over their recent work. Nomura doesn't guarantee 90+ game that can get universal acclaim, and the same applies to Kitase and Nojima.

The only one I still have some faith in is Hiroyuki Itou. Even Sakaguchi has failed to do something substantial after FF.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Silly, poorly executed story beats make up the entirety of the main plot. They are nonsense. There's a lot I admire about this game's moment to moment gameplay characterization of the main group, but any time a cutscene or story mission starts I know it's time to buckle up for Uncle Square's Dumbshit Hayride.

Tommy Wiseau's character in the room has a clear agenda, but that doesn't really make for a good story on its own.

This hurts to read. Goddammit.


Bunnyhops review of Watch_Dogs 2 seemed interesting to me because he was shitting on the characters. He called them incredible cringey and annoying and forced nonsensical misfit teens, but he somehow came around to them. Like he managed to find something worthwhile in these broken characters once he embraced the ham.

It's been my hope that it would be the same for the FFXV group. I really liked the idea of a road trip to try and make good characters. It seems like a good and safe trope you can use. You have some characters with similar goals; They are together on a trip. It's hard to screw up I'd imagine, which is why I am going ??? when I see this thread.


I loved FFXIIIs graphics and combat system. That game is my least liked Final Fantasy because the characters were so.. They just sucked so fucking bad, and it makes me mad. I'd rather have a bad story with great characters, than a great story with bad characters. I'm not against "save-the-world type stories".

If I really dig a character I'll sit through anything. That is probably why I love all of the modern Bioware games. I love that there are cut scenes where Garrus is shooting bottles with Shepard, or scenes where Dorian is trying to confront his dad who won't accept that he is gay- These things are personal smaller details that have nothing to do with a overall "white jesus saves the universe" story, but it gives context to going out and mindlessly slaying and shooting monsters and aliens.
FFX12 is the latter. FFX12 is the game with the mature and deep political intrigue that was really impressive,but that game also lacked characters that where truly memorable. Still I have really fond memories of FFX12 I just don't remember it. It was good, but not memorable.
I feel bad for Tabata and friends. How did they miss the mark on this? Who supervises a project of this magnitude and doesn't run the script through the best writers in Japan to weed out inconsistency, characters acting unbeliveable? They should have hired 30 Haruki Murakami's to drill home characters that was bound to put you to your knees.
If this is as bad as you guys are making it seem it's hard to believe that scenario and characters were done by actual writers.

 

[Caja 117]

Question about the Summons in the game (forget what they called in FFXV) do you find them on the open map, or you get specific quest for this? (Dont mind the response on spoiler tags).

 

[Zakalwe]

why do people hate on the english voices? The banter and quips and jokes work so well as one offs. I actually am reminded by Tales's skits at times

I love the English voice cast for the four bros, especially Iggy. His OTT Englishness is hilarious, especially as someone who knows a few people who actually speak like he does...

 

[jimmypython]

You should be more worried about Nojima.

Nojima's hit and miss lol.....X-2.5 etc etc.

 

[Yu Narukami]

Does anybody have a list of the hunting quests? Always teleporting to know the level requirements is annoying.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

From someone that enjoys this game a lot, despite some of the many flaws in the game:

Fuck chapter 13.

I'm not even finished it (though I am sure I'm nearly finished it) but it is just too long and not fun at all.

I mean I like the idea of it from a story perspective (

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Ardyn tormenting Noctis throughout it all

) but from a gameplay perspective, it is too long and not fun :/

That ch gonna sour a lot people, I'm just patiently waiting until people reach that point.

 

[Angry Grimace]

What's that hud icon in the bottom middle of the screen?

Probably the meter that tells you how long your food buff is lasting.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

When was the last time he made a game that had 90+ meta? All his recent games have been below that threshold for a while.

84 meta for FFXV is not bad, regardless of whatever your experience was with the game.

When was the last time Nomura made a game, let alone a console game?

(The answer is 2015: Kingdom Hearts Unchained X for mobile, and 2005: Kingdom Hearts II, respectively.)

 

[GunBR]

Yep, type C should've been the default control. So much better than type A.

Came here to post this
I was using Type A, but after trying Type C, WOW
The fights are sooooo much better now

 

[Kaizer]

Can anyone send me a YouTube link to that one music track that plays well you're in the open field that prominently features a flute? It's incredibly heavenly & majestic - I get huge flashbacks to playing Xenoblade Chronicles on the Wii whenever it plays!

 

[Zakalwe]

This hurts to read. Goddammit.


Bunnyhops review of Watch_Dogs 2 seemed interesting to me because he was shitting on the characters. He called them incredible cringey and annoying and forced nonsensical misfit teens, but he somehow came around to them. Like he managed to find something worthwhile in these broken characters once he embraced the ham.

It's been my hope that it would be the same for the FFXV group. I really liked the idea of a road trip to try and make good characters. It seems like a good and safe trope you can use. You have some characters with similar goals; They are together on a trip. It's hard to screw up I'd imagine, which is why I am going ??? when I see this thread.


I loved FFXIIIs graphics and combat system. That game is my least liked Final Fantasy because the characters were so.. They just sucked so fucking bad, and it makes me mad. I'd rather have a bad story with great characters, than a great story with bad characters. I'm not against "save-the-world type stories".

If I really dig a character I'll sit through anything. That is probably why I love all of the modern Bioware games. I love that there are cut scenes where Garrus is shooting bottles with Shepard, or scenes where Dorian is trying to confront his dad who won't accept that he is gay- These things are personal smaller details that have nothing to do with a overall "white jesus saves the universe" story, but it gives context to going out and mindlessly slaying and shooting monsters and aliens.
FFX12 is the latter. FFX12 is the game with the mature and deep political intrigue that was really impressive,but that game also lacked characters that where truly memorable. Still I have really fond memories of FFX12 I just don't remember it. It was good, but not memorable.
I feel bad for Tabata and friends. How did they miss the mark on this? Who supervises a project of this magnitude and doesn't run the script through the best writers in Japan to weed out inconsistency, characters acting unbeliveable? They should have hired 30 Haruki Murakami's to drill home characters that was bound to put you to your knees.
If this is as bad as you guys are making it seem it's hard to believe that scenario and characters were done by actual writers.

Woah there, stop focusing on the negative posts alone and you'll read just as many opinions of the opposite.

Story and characters are very important to me, and despite the game's flaws I'm enjoying tre former and adoring the latter.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Question about the Summons in the game (forget what they called in FFXV) do you find them on the open map, or you get specific quest for this? (Dont mind the response on spoiler tags).

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Specific main story quests

 

[Caja 117]

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Specific main story quests

Thank you!

 

[sappyday]

Question about the Summons in the game (forget what they called in FFXV) do you find them on the open map, or you get specific quest for this? (Dont mind the response on spoiler tags).

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They're all story related and you can't miss them.

 

[Ray Down]

Nojima's hit and miss lol.....X-2.5 etc etc.

Really still want them to make a game out of that script, I need SE first AAA JRPG comedy game!

Or repurpose some material for FF7R.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Really still want them to make a game out of that script, I need SE first AAA JRPG comedy game!

Or repurpose some material for FF7R.

I am sure SE will make FFX-3 at some point because if they want to release FFXVI, that won't be out until 2020 or later

So they have a lot of time to keep the series fresh in people's mind with spin-offs and remakes like FFX-3, XII HD, VII: Remake and potentially more.

 

[nOoblet16]

Chapter 11 spoilers and story related questions.

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Why is Ignis injured? When did this happen? Why am I in the middle of no where and why am I going into a mine?

Also what happens if I don't bring Ignis along?

 

[Ferr986]

why do people hate on the english voices? The banter and quips and jokes work so well as one offs. I actually am reminded by Tales's skits at times

I like the english voices better than the japanese ones myself.

 

[Nikana]

Has anybody found

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one of the keys that go to these doors at the back of the dungeon's. Is there something I'm supposed to be doing now or is it something I'm supposed to come back to later